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FireandSpiritandDew
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posted December 13, 2015 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireandSpiritandDew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello

There have been quite a lot of really interesting posts on here to do with composites recently. So far I've avoided posting this one, mostly because it looks horrible, even with my limited understanding of composites.

Isn't it awful?
(Of the very few tight aspects, Venus conj Saturn, Sun sq Moon and Mars sq Uranus. Hurray!)

By contrast the synastry (which I've posted before) seems really nice.

I'd really appreciate any help with interpreting this. I've known this fella for about seven years and we have a child together, so the worst the composite can reveal is that it's a difficult relationship (which I already know!). Incredibly compelling for both sides, but also very hard work.

And of course if anyone can find anything positive to say about it then you'll have my eternal gratitude.

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posted December 14, 2015 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireandSpiritandDew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A gentle bump

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FireandSpiritandDew
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posted December 15, 2015 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireandSpiritandDew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump

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Aunt Anomalia
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posted December 15, 2015 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi. What exactly in your composite worries you?

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FireandSpiritandDew
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posted December 15, 2015 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireandSpiritandDew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mostly the Sun sq Moon, to be honest. Our Sun-Moon synastry is strangely tight:

My Sun 19.47 Cancer
My Moon 24.10 Scorpio

His Sun 24.23 Capricorn
His Moon 19.48 Pisces.

(edit, I tried explaining that with words and failed miserably, this way is easier).

So they can't really be anything but square in the comp, but it seems like a cruddy manifestation of something that ought to be (and is, usually) quite flowing and nice.

(I hope that made sense, it did in my head!)

Also, our son's IC/MC axis falls straight across our Sun-Sun opposition, as does the Composite moon, as does the Comp Vertex, so it seems significant.

So really I'd like to know if there's anything that balances that out, or an area we can work on to counter it a bit.

The Mars-Uranus square doesn't bother me so much (I have a quincunx between them natally, and he has a semi-sextile, so I suspect that's quite familiar). Neither does the Saturn-Venus conjunction, on the grounds that he has a Cap Venus and I have a Libra Saturn.

Mostly, though, I'm just trying to use astrology to make sense of an ongoing relationship that doesn't make sense - it's contradictory and seems to have no solutions! Keep thinking that if I can just hit on the explanation I'll turn into a mysteriously calm and Zen-like person and not worry about it anymore.

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posted December 15, 2015 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireandSpiritandDew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whoops, accidental dp sorry

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posted December 15, 2015 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireandSpiritandDew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I've been reading around a bit and it turns out that the Sun square Moon isn't necessarily the kiss of death, although sometimes hyped up as such.

So I should probably rename this thread: Nice Synastry, Composite of Nitpicking. It is a bit of a pervading energy in the relationship.

Also, as a result of having them side-by-side on the post I've noticed that in addition to the Composite Moon/Vertex conjunct the Sun/Venus-Sun opposition, there's composite Neptune on my nVertex and composite Saturn/Venus on his nSN/Pluto(ish).

I'd still really appreciate anyone's insight into the composite - I really don't know enough to interpret it very effectively (or indeed at all). Next time I will have the sense to phrase my title as a straightforward question, though.

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todd
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posted December 15, 2015 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi FireandSpiritandDew

I think you have already isolated the problems wit the composite. you just don't realize how destructive they are.
the mars/Uranus square clearly shows he I more interested in spreading himself around rather than being loyal to anyone. the moon conjunct the vertex and square e to the sun, is as you said not necessarily a bad aspect.
but the mars/Uranus midpoint is opposed o the sun and square to the moon anf vertex. this tends to imply he will never change his independent ways.
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posted December 15, 2015 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireandSpiritandDew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
hi FireandSpiritandDew

I think you have already isolated the problems wit the composite. you just don't realize how destructive they are.
the mars/Uranus square clearly shows he I more interested in spreading himself around rather than being loyal to anyone. the moon conjunct the vertex and square e to the sun, is as you said not necessarily a bad aspect.
but the mars/Uranus midpoint is opposed o the sun and square to the moon anf vertex. this tends to imply he will never change his independent ways.
todd


Thanks Todd

That probably sounds about right, to be honest - I hadn't noticed the midpoint opposite the Sun. And however it manifests (in a variety of ways so far, I have to admit!), it certainly explains how the only predictable thing about the relationship is its unpredictability.

I wonder if you can see any stabilising aspects? To be honest, at this point, I'm less concerned with it as a romantic relationship - although obviously there are elements of that to negotiate - and more about us functioning as friends/ acquaintances/ parents without either of us going mad.

Thanks again for your insight

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posted December 15, 2015 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well the venus/moon and moon/Saturn midpoints are conjunct to Jupiter. so that does give hope thst he will evolve into a concerned parent. but even then Jupiter is conjunct Uranus and Uranus square to mars. so I would think that he has for short periods acted positively to the child. but it seems he can only sustain this for a short period.
the node will square to Jupiter from august to October 2016, so it is likely he will be helpful then.
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posted December 15, 2015 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireandSpiritandDew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by todd:
well the venus/moon and moon/Saturn midpoints are conjunct to Jupiter. so that does give hope thst he will evolve into a concerned parent. but even then Jupiter is conjunct Uranus and Uranus square to mars. so I would think that he has for short periods acted positively to the child. but it seems he can only sustain this for a short period.
the node will square to Jupiter from august to October 2016, so it is likely he will be helpful then.
todd

I feel I should step in and defend his honour as a parent here because he's always and consistently been a very lovely and devoted father (This is why I have such a lot of contact with him - at least ten more years of flea-like Uranian energy in my life, oh good! ). I guess that that would show up in his composite with our son, and that the flitting-hither-and-thither is in regards to me as the other parent.

I feel much better for knowing this, though, because it means that I don't have to beat myself up for not-doing-the-right-thing!

I guess the issue is making sure that his independence doesn't inhibit mine - and thinking it through, that tends to be where the problems come about.

Thank you, Todd, that's been really useful.

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posted December 16, 2015 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireandSpiritandDew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh. Well, I thought that the degree of the Mars/Uranus midpoint looked a bit familiar, so I checked against my natal chart and it falls on my natal Pluto/Juno, opposite natal Eros and square the Sun-Sun opposition in synastry.

Ouch! No wonder it's been difficult! Poxy cardinal crosses.

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