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VestasLight
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posted December 20, 2015 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VestasLight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To say I'm a bit devastated right now is a complete understatement. I fell so hard for this guy. We were so wrapped up in each other, but before we could even get things off the ground, he just suddenly cut off all communication with me. I don't know what the hell happened. My head spinning and my heart is broken.

I really thought this was going to be a serious, long term relationship. We both have Cap descendants and enjoy the heavy Sat. contacts.

Love is blind as they say. I can't why the heck this happened or why it didn't pan out? Sun conj. Chiron is known for sudden break-ups but in only a few weeks? One of my longest friendships has this in our synastry. So what the heck?

Help ANYBODY?

I'm on the outside in red. Birth times are exact.

Here's the grid...

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Soltze
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posted December 20, 2015 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strong synastry but not a good one in my opinion.
Your Chiron on his Sun and your Saturn on his Venus might have made him feel awkward somehow. A mature person can handle it but not everyone.

Your Mars on his Moon can be rough too.

I see lots of oppositions - it can only work with good and honest communication. Precisely what he's not doing right know.

If you like him a lot, try to reach him. But the interest should be mutual. Maybe you'll get an explanation from him. It's always good to understand what happened

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posted December 20, 2015 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see you have not only Chiron conjunct Sun, but opposing Uranus. You also have not only Venus conjunct Saturn, but again opposing Uranus. You also have Moon conjunct Mars. Any of these can make for sudden blow-ups.

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VestasLight
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posted December 20, 2015 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VestasLight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Soltze:
Strong synastry but not a good one in my opinion.
Your Chiron on his Sun and your Saturn on his Venus might have made him feel awkward somehow. A mature person can handle it but not everyone.

Your Mars on his Moon can be rough too.

I see lots of oppositions - it can only work with good and honest communication. Precisely what he's not doing right know.

If you like him a lot, try to reach him. But the interest should be mutual. Maybe you'll get an explanation from him. It's always good to understand what happened


Thanks Soltze. I know there are lots of oppositions, but most of my synastry are heavy with them. I personally don't view oppositions as "bad". I find squares/quincunx are the difficult aspects with no option for resolution. Oppositions offer the opportunity for balance.

I believed all the positive Moon, Venus & Jupiter aspects would help balance out the harder aspects.

I agree only a mature person can handle the Chiron and Saturn. He's 10 years younger than me, so maybe...

And I've had Mars/Moon many times. But this is the first time I've been Mars. Think it's better when I'm moon. So, thanks for pointing that one out.

I appreciate your input.

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VestasLight
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posted December 20, 2015 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VestasLight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by page one:
I see you have not only Chiron conjunct Sun, but opposing Uranus. You also have not only Venus conjunct Saturn, but again opposing Uranus. You also have Moon conjunct Mars. Any of these can make for sudden blow-ups.

Thanks page one. I see what you're saying. I'm aware of the effect Uranus can have. But with my husband of 16 years, we had strong Uranus in our synastry. I enjoy the excitement of it. But I guess this time, it was too much for this person.

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Nine
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posted December 20, 2015 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Timing. What are your respective pMoon signs?

Attraction, physical and otherwise begins at the Sun/Moon, Sun/Asc, Moon/Asc level, not Venus/Mars, Venus/Pluto, etc...

His pMoon was neither in Virgo (your Sun), or Cancer (your Asc). Despite the other aspects you didn't connect with him on a soul/Moon level.

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VestasLight
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posted December 20, 2015 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VestasLight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Timing. What are your respective pMoon signs?

Attraction, physical and otherwise begins at the Sun/Moon, Sun/Asc, Moon/Asc level, not Venus/Mars, Venus/Pluto, etc...

His pMoon was neither in Virgo (your Sun), or Cancer (your Asc). Despite the other aspects you didn't connect with him on a soul/Moon level.


Thanks Nine, but my progressed Asc conjuncts his natal moon. My progressed nodes are also conjunct his moon. So we did connect on a soul/Moon level. And the attraction was definitely there. We were crazy over each other, then it just suddenly ended without a word.

Had to edit to add: I just realized his pMoon squares my NSun. So again, the connections are there.

What's most perplexing is that our Ven/Sat conj and Sun/Sat conj trine each other and then trine my moon to create a Grand Trine. And his Juno setiles that to create a Kite. Those are powerful and uncommon geometry aspects in synastry.

Still scratching my head.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted December 20, 2015 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, but Soltze is right that this is not a good synastry.

Not counting your Ascendant/calculated figures, since they are not likely to be accurate within range of 5° orbs in both charts, I count 7 (+)positive and 18 (-)negative aspects. That's a near 3:1 negative/stressful.

Some of the points of strength (conjunctions/parallels) are Sun-Saturn, Saturn-Venus, Mars-Moon ... plus some squares involving Neptune. Not positive bonds. And just not enough Mercury, Venus, or Jupiter to make up for it.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 21, 2015 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How does the composite look?
There is potential for sudden events here indeed, but also for reconciliation. The aspect I like the least here is cardinal Moon sq Pluto, it can create intense animosity.
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VestasLight
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posted December 22, 2015 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VestasLight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
How does the composite look?
There is potential for sudden events here indeed, but also for reconciliation. The aspect I like the least here is cardinal Moon sq Pluto, it can create intense animosity.

Wow, I was so focused on synastry that I never checked the composite. THANK YOU LeeLoo for the reminder.

Composite: Saturn conj Asc - right there is the problem. Saturn here can prevent the relationship from getting of the ground.
AND Sun is the 12th.
Though the Asc ruler, Moon, is in the 5th, the rest of the chart is weak.

Next time I'll check the composite first.

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