posted December 22, 2015 06:03 PM            

When I think about him I feel completely overwhelmed, like I can't breathe.
When I SEE him oh god, my knees are weak, like I will faint, I feel completely powerless and like a moth to a flame.

He makes me feel dizzy like I am drunk.
If he were to touch me I'd melt completely and lose control.

I never even knew these sorts of feelings were possible.

I feel like I need him to be in my life every day and that I want to share everything with him.

We are both artists and I also feel if we made music/art together it would be financially successful.
He has mentioned this several times, that I am his golden ticket.

There has never been anyone I wanted to be creative with more. The chemistry is phenomenal.
Other people notice. People are suspicious.

When we talk I feel like it's the first time either of us has been understood by another person.
I'll say something and he reacts like I pulled the thoughts from his brain.
Sometimes I say things he was thinking and vice versa.

This sounds SO corny but I can get lost in his eyes forever and I feel like the same happens to him.
He'll just zone out and stare at me.

I start a sentence and he finishes it.
I think I am definitely in love with him. His eyes light up when he sees me.
When I think of him my heart feels golden. I am a synesthete.

I have dreams about him all the time; ones that feel completely real.
This doesn't usually happen to me when I like someone.

So much of our communication when we see each other is non verbal, body language.
We read each other instantly.
I hadn't seen him in months and saw him the other night and it's thrown me into a tail spin.
Everytime I see him I am pretty much wrecked for a week at least.
I have these weird painful tears.
Like looking into a bright light and being blinded. That sounds ridiculous.
I don't know how else to explain it.

This sounds like it should be great right? Lol, it's ok go ahead and shake your head. Why haven't we been on a date yet?

It is RIDICULOUS complicated on so many levels.
My ex is his best friend and he also has a girl friend that I respect and admire.
Him & his lady live together and I think it's pretty rocky as I have seen them fight before
and it's hard to break up when you live with someone. He seems bored? But who knows really?
Also he is constantly telling me everything he loves about me that his girl is definitely not like.
(I'm really weird and artsy/eccentric free spirit like him and she is a sweet more normal girl that goes to brunch)

Anyways, the other night we ran into each other (with out my ex and his So.)
The last time I saw him we were very drunk and he admitted to me he wanted to have sex with me.
A couple months before he told me he loved me (?!!) and this was right after my ex had a psychotic episode
and this guy helped me talk him down.
Well, we ended up drinking together until about 1:30 am and I went into the bathroom of the bar I was at
and gave myself a hard look in the mirror. I knew where this was going to end up if I stayed and I just can't
be the other woman out of respect to myself and his girl.
I left without really saying goodbye.

I don't know if any of this is making sense.

Anyways, it can NEVER EVER EVER happen.
I don't know what to do; I can't avoid him, we always bump into each other.
Also we are both attending 2 weddings in the next 2 months and the wedding parties are going to be small.

I checked out our profile combination on The Secret Language (do you guys like those books/the app?)
And it said the relationship is best suited for love and that it is sensual, expressive, loyal and also intense, overdependent and jealous.
What says that we are like that in our chart? I think his books are based on the composite though.

Can anyone show me in our charts why this is happening? How to avoid these feelings?
Should I just be a cold to him and ignore how I feel?
Can you give me some advice on how to get myself out of this situation?
Are we doomed to be star-crossed and to never be together? It sure seems that way.

posted December 22, 2015 08:15 PM            

That'll do it.

Plus, a VENUS conjunct URA (and SAT).

You probably should be creative together, but ask yourselves, and each other, why a romantic relationship would feel necessary. Also, how long has it been?

posted December 23, 2015 10:28 AM            

Do you think his Pluto/Jupiter/Mercury conjunction on my moon could magnify it?

How to avoid these feelings? Confront him/ignore him/push him away? When he makes me feel SO wonderful.

It's so hard, I feel like he is the male version of myself, but there is so much in the way, I don't think it could ever work out

Does it look like we could be succesfully creative together?

We have known each other for about 5 years.
I have had feelings for him for 2 of those, I think he has liked me since the beginning but I was oblivious. What's weird is my body knew we liked each other before I did, we were sitting in the same room and I had this swooning/ light headed feeling in my body that was so strong I had to go lay down.

posted December 23, 2015 04:01 PM            

Yes the sexual energy IS over the top.
I feel like it would probably be the best of my life.

It's kind of crazy about the mars in the 10th house because I feel like if we worked together we would become very successful artists which is what both of us want. He's actually very talented but has not done anything in a while besides back up other musicians & artists and I think he is uninspired but when he is around me he is almost child like a kid in a candy store, excited about everything that could be done.

I am wondering about the Nodes myself, South & North - especially my Vesta conjunct his North node exactly in my 8th house Cancer/his 4th house Cancer.

Both of us come from extremely broken/dysfunctional homes, I know my North Node is all about creating a happy family and transcending my child hood of origin. Both of us have had eerily similar childhoods down to minute details like our parent's jobs/past times/religion and how we were as children too.

Thank you for looking!!

posted December 23, 2015 05:06 PM            

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Why not? Maybe it could. With feelings this big maybe you two ought to honor them...make space for these feelings to exist. You only get so many chances in life, to find someone who makes you feel this way. Plus you have Venus conjunct Saturn-Uranus I love that!

Composite NN in the 4th house, bodes well for living together.

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I checked out our profile combination on The Secret Language (do you guys like those books/the app?)

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posted December 23, 2015 05:22 PM            

I really, really want it to be able to happen but I just don't think it could ever be. I am friends with at least 3 of his ex girlfriends and not to mention his current one. Although I think she knows what's up and hates me now even though I've never crossed the line or anything. They live together and I do NOT want to be a home wrecker.

Also I don't know if my ex would ever forgive me, they are childhood best friends but have a huge rivalry/love-hate relationship. Then again my ex's other best friend married one of his ex girlfriends so I guess anything could happen.

What is the Venus conjunct Uranus/Saturn like? I've read them separate but don't really understand the dual conjunction. Who feels what?

posted December 23, 2015 05:39 PM            

I was once in a similar situation as you describe, so can relate a lot more than I'd like to. Am also heavily Aries and Scorpio influenced myself....and it's true your charts have many deep connections as was already mentioned. However, this in itself doesn't mean much.

I think (just going by intuition here) that if you want to give this situation a chance for the best possible outcome, then you must firmly adhere to personal values such as honesty and strength of character. The temptation is probably very great to just give in to the attraction and start an affair, but as long as the guy is in a live-in relationship and intends to cheat on her with you, all that can follow from it for the three of you is a horrible mess that could even turn out so bad that any future relationship between the two of you might suffer from it. Please don't take this advice as taking the moral high ground or preaching on my part. Quite on the contrary, I'm trying to tell you what to avoid precisely because I committed that mistake in the past.

Just don't go there, is my advice. Stay true to your values, this will be something you can be proud of later, it will strengthen your character and it might even clear the way for a good development between the two of you in the future (but that is uncertain and it's not exactly a good sign that he behaves like he does with you now, despite being in a relationship, unless of course they have an agreement to be polyamorous which would of course change the situation a lot, and would make my advice irrelevant). I do however believe that in a karmic perspective, lasting happiness cannot be built on other people's suffering, or on lies and deceit. You seem to have a similar idea in your mind, going by your post, so I hope you get what I mean, and hopefully won't be offended, because my aim is not to criticize you in any way. As someone said to console me when the **** hit the fan in my own situation - "Don't beat yourself up; love is not a crime." It's also, sadly, not a choice. But our actions are nevertheless our own responsibility (only our own actions though, and not other people's). As another person remarked to me, about him, when I was making excuses for his behavior: "Tell me, would any man of honor ever drag you into such a dishonorable situation? Think about it."

With hindsight, if presented with the same situation again, I would now prefer to tell him firmly to resolve his previous relationship's issues in peace and without my interference, and to stop making advances at me. Infatuation doesn't last forever, it's a temporary imbalance akin to insanity. If not acted upon, it passes at some point and it's important not to let it rule one's decision-making.

So, best do your own thing and let him take care of his own business before going any deeper with him. Being a Scorp Sun, he'll respect you all the more if you show strength of character. There are few things Scorps admire more.

posted December 23, 2015 06:23 PM            

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..."love is not a crime." It's also, sadly, not a choice. But our actions are nevertheless our own responsibility

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^^ That says it all.

I have just seen it happen where people are SO loyal they refuse to test the waters with another person, even if they suspect it could be better with them. They remain locked into one relationship while superior opportunities pass by. I hate that for personal reasons.

That's what I did and kick myself for...back in college. I was so loyal, I wouldn't entertain the thought of dating other guys, even if I liked them better and they reciprocated.

It's a tough balance and sometimes the cues are not clear enough to make a good decision. That's where astrology comes in handy, of course.

And in this case, the synastry and composite look good, to match the overwhelming feelings.

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So, best do your own thing and let him take care of his own business before going any deeper with him. Being a Scorp Sun, he'll respect you all the more if you show strength of character. There are few things Scorps admire more.

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posted December 23, 2015 06:38 PM            

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Originally posted by zodiacus:
They live together and I do NOT want to be a home wrecker.

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That's admirable. I guess it does come down to him, making the choice and ideally you both could make amends with your circle of friends together.

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Then again my ex's other best friend married one of his ex girlfriends so I guess anything could happen.

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Originally posted by zodiacus:
What is the Venus conjunct Uranus/Saturn like? I've read them separate but don't really understand the dual conjunction. Who feels what?

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Venus-Uranus is electric and often found in "love at first sight." Venus-Saturn is binding like superglue for both. I will add links later.

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Originally posted by zodiacus:
I LOVE the Secret Language, I tell EVERYONE about it especially if they dis astrology.

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Me too! The author's sun is conjunct my Ceres in Gemini. Intellectual nourishment. Though I have to remind myself not to take it too seriously.

posted December 23, 2015 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Sorry you had such a bad time

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Hi Faith,

sure that's okay Thanks for the sympathy, but don't be sorry for me, I got myself into that mess alright, Aries Moon style; it was a major learning experience, and is fortunately long over. But if I'm reborn in animal form next time you'll know why As they say: No pain, no gain... and no stupidity, no story to tell

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Originally posted by Faith:

He may need a conversation with her, to clarify what's going on.

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posted December 23, 2015 07:13 PM            

The composite is really cool. I love Jupiter and sun conjunctions.

You already know how you feel and it looks like interest has been openly expressed. I do agree with previous comments that it has to be done the right way. Done meaning you enter into it with integrity intact. But you have already acknowledged this.

posted December 23, 2015 08:53 PM            

Any time you even slightly allude to Aries moon blunders, I think of our camping trip and the Darwin Awards comments you made.

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I think before anything else, HE needs to have a conversation with HIMSELF first and foremost.

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posted December 23, 2015 09:58 PM            

That's enough to drive a normal person insane with desire.

But you have even more electric, intense links in your synastry - there is also a double Venus-Uranus tight conjunction and opposition! That is so magnetic, I am sure that you two wont be able to resist the draw for too long.

posted December 23, 2015 10:26 PM            

@zodiacus

Links as promised, with info:

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Venus conjunct other person's Uranus

This is one indication of a powerful, sudden, and electric attraction. It is often indicative of a situation where one feels "love at first sight". If you get together, a sexual relationship may begin quickly, before you truly get to know each other. A mutual sharing of unusual interests is indicated. The attraction to and fascination with each other may be erratic or variable; or it may subside as suddenly as it started. It is vital that each gives the other freedom in order for this relationship to work. Attempts to give this relationship too much structure can drive a wedge between the two. It is likely that the Venus person will eventually crave more constancy from the Uranus person than he or she is willing to give.

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Venus conjunct other person's Saturn

This contact can represent a binding tie, but not without its share of challenges. The Saturn person tends to have the effect of stabilizing the Venus person's emotions, and much will depend on how the Venus person reacts and the how maturely the Saturn person acts upon the Venus person. Commitment, loyalty, and responsibility are vital defining factors of this relationship. Both persons will need to be aware of a tendency to be too insistent on attention from one another, and well as of the tendency to restrict each other's sense of freedom. The Saturn person needs to be wary of a too cool approach towards the Venus person's loving gestures, particularly as time passes. The Saturn person tends to feels responsible for the Venus person, but should avoid becoming too parental with him or her. The Venus person may feel restricted or downright repressed by the Saturn person. This combination is one indication of mutual dependence. If there isn't an inordinate number of challenging aspects in the rest of the compatibility analysis, this is a good indication of a long-term, highly significant relationship. The Venus person may appreciate the Saturn person's guidance and loyalty, but could also see the Saturn person as too conservative and socially restrictive. There can be a depressing effect. As well, the Saturn person may see the Venus person as delightfully cheerful. On the other side of the coin, if the Saturn person is feeling insecure, he or she could find the Venus person to be childishly emotional or extravagant. It is quite natural for you to commit to one another. As time passes, the Saturn person could feel threatened by changes or growth in the Venus person's love nature, and needs to avoid criticizing the Venus person for any new behaviors. Individual growth does not necessarily mean growing apart.

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posted December 23, 2015 10:47 PM            

I think your advice is dead on, thank you for sharing that personal story with me, this is exactly what I would be afraid of happening.

I think you are so right about bringing up the honor thing; that's SUPER important to me, and I know that deep down he wants to be a good man, I think he just doesn't know he is capable of it. I excused his advances since he was VERY drunk and the next couple times I saw him he was visibly embarrassed by his behavior.

You're totally right, I am going to do my own thing for now. If we run into each other that's fine but I'm going to be as proper as Mary Poppins. The thing is I think that's why he likes me so much. I think it's a Venus/Mars Capricorn thing? I think the harder I play to get the more he will want me.

Faith, I also agree with you. There is a point of loyalty that turns into self sacrifice which I have unfortunately done at my own expense most of my life. Gosh, I really wish we could talk about how we feel but I agree; to do so feels scandalous in itself. The Venus/Saturn/Uranus is super interesting because I feel like I'm going to know him for a super long time but I also feel like I have always known him, he's almost too familiar to me.

Vajra, you are most definitely right he needs to talk to himself. I wish I could poke around in that brain of his lol, he probably feels the sane way though. Sometimes the way he looks at me it's like he wants to lick my mind. And yes, it is totally dishonest and disrespectful to go behind her back like that so I can never be a part of it. It would honestly hurt me so much to do that to someone, I would barely be able to live with myself after.

Faith I do think he thought for a while it was in his imagination, until last Wednesday, I think he knows now that I have feelings for him since I stayed so late. But maybe he doesn't since I left without even saying goodbye after not seeing him for months. I had to do it that way though, I knew he would try to walk me to my car if I stayed later and didn't run out. Typical Venus/Uranus huh??

Orange, Do you know who feels the desire more? I worry that I am more obsessed (I mean hello I am the one posting here lol) but I do think he is obsessed with me; he remembers every strange specific detail about me it's very eerie. I am trying to stay strong and resist!!! Definitely cannot be left alone with him, especially anywhere small like a hallway. It does feel like it is a long slow burning sort of love.

Faith thank you for the links!!!

Oh gosh; I am still pretty overwhelmed. I have to be at 2 weddings with him in the next 2 months and the whole time I'm going to be thinking I wish I was with him. I guess all I can do is take care of myself and be the best version I of myself I can be.

posted December 24, 2015 12:07 AM            

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His Pluto conjuncts your Moon and squares your Mars.

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I've never experienced anyone's PLUTO on my MOON in a romantic context. Way too young for consideration. But I AM the PLUTO in a 0° opposition to MOON.

That's definitely powerful.

posted December 24, 2015 12:28 AM            

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I guess all I can do is take care of myself and be the best version I of myself I can be.

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Exactly. Incidentally, and this is just an intuitive thing, I'm getting the feeling this is ultimately a lesson to help you learn how to leave certain types of bad relationships behind, or the kind of men that would lead to them. I actually feel it's going to burn hot and very fast, burning out just as quickly.

Sometimes, we can know a person casually for years but it doesn't quite 'start' until we're in closer proximity, such as now. It's NOW that the meter started running -- you know? Prior to that, it really wasn't.

posted December 24, 2015 02:19 AM            

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I have experienced similar feelings with someone. My Venus is square his Uranus exact and the square has an intense configuration. Very possible its due to Uranus. The Moon is more subtle I think.

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posted December 24, 2015 03:04 AM            

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For me, being Venus I felt electrified. Somewhat like what she explained. I couldn't talk around him and my heart was literally racing when we first were alone together. I felt weak in his presence.

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Wow. I've never gotten that sense from him, outside of, almost 6 years later, visibly seeing how I have the same effect upon him that I did when we first met. He'd never believed in 'love-at-first-sight' until me. It seemed impossible. But I 'hit every button he has, and several he didn't even know were there'.

It's funny because I never can truly count anything between my VENUS and his URA; I think it's 12° from a conjunction? But I remember many times feeling a sense of electric attraction, almost to the point I couldn't hide my nervousness. And yet, I'M really URANUS here, with the 0° square to his VENUS. Wow.

I've experienced a 5° square in which I was VENUS. He absolutely made me nervous, and was incredibly erratic. Always pulling away just as he'd drawn me close.

posted December 24, 2015 06:08 AM            

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I forgot to mention I never experienced love at first sight until him either. I fell in love with him really fast.

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Ahhhhh. So, we can definitely keep 'hard exact aspects of URA to VEN' checked off in terms of potentially causing that feeling.

posted December 24, 2015 10:40 AM            

Venus conjunct Uranus would probably blow my mind.