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hypatia238
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posted January 01, 2016 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So my PSYCHE Southnode is in Aqua @15d24 conjunct Mr.Aqua's Antivertex and conjunct under 1d Mr.Scorpio's Southnode which conjuncts my Ceres and opposes my Eros-Erato midpoint.

My ex Psyche Northnode conjuncts exact my Mercury Rx which rules my 7th.

Anyways I am thinking that the Southnode/Northnode of your natal Psyche conjuncting the other person's Vertixes or Nodes in synastry is a soulmate marker.

Calculator: http://www.true-node.com/eph1/

Inspired by this thread from Faith which includes instructions on how to use calculator: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/004014.html

Anyways please share if you have Psyche's nodes active in synastry and what your aspects are. Thank you and Happy 2016!!!!

ADD: THIS THREAD IS ABOUT GEOCENTRIC PSYCHE NODES.

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posted January 01, 2016 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Psyche NN 18°24 Virgo
my Psyche SN 14°11 Aqua


his Psyche NN 18°23 Virgo
his Psyche SN 14°26 Aquarius


Nope,no interconnection with either nodal axis or Vertex

Well following a hunch I checked for Eros, too. lol

his Eros NN 21°11 Cap
his Eros SN 3°47 Libra

my Eros NN 20°48 Cap
my Eros SN 3°35 Libra


This gives me a little goosebumps, while I understand that most probably the fact him and me share a Psyche-Psyche-conjunction is a factor in the Nodes being close to each other, too, this is not true in terms of ERos

his Eros is on 8 Pisces, mine is on 21 Capricorn.
(of course they are are on each other`s antiscion-squares, but I never was sure if that means anything at all).

Anyway in this instance yes. my natal Vertex is on 21°31 Cancer and my Sun/Moon-mp on 21°31 Capricorn and Eros itself on 20°59 Cancer. It is squaring his Pluto on 21°23 Libra.
the Eros-SN is conjunct this Karma at 3°19 Libra, too and my MC at 4°58 Libra.

It is also close to the antiscion of his Vertex on 28 Virgo (though possibly not close enough, it is much closer to the antiscion of his Saturn on 26°42 Virgo and his DESC on 25°38 Virgo I think, which I guess is some sort of statement itself. lol)


Those asteroid nodes are REALLY REALLY interesting though. I should look into them.

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posted January 01, 2016 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You were asking about the Psyche nodes though

So our Psyche-SN is on 14 Aquarius which means conjunct my Moon by 3 degrees, maybe a little wide, but possibly valid. His Sappho is on 13 Aquarius.
And in composite we have Pallas on 16 Aquarius I think and Nymphe is there around, too. But well I guess the link to my Moon is the most significant one, though I find it a tad widish.


Our Psyche NN is
conjunct his mean BML on 18°02 Virgo
opposite my Juno on 16°58 Pisces

(I find it interesting that we have an opposition synastrically between the "wife" and "the other woman").


EDIT
I think I remember now that the orb has to be very tight, as they move so very slowly so the conj. to my Moon is clearly out of range

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posted January 01, 2016 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Psyche NN 16.08 Virgo / SN 18.41 Aqua

Husband's Psyche NN 25.03 Leo / SN 13.28 Pisces

No close synastry conjunctions.

However, my 16.01 Gemini Mars is square my Psyche NN so maybe I've scared potential soulmates away.

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posted January 01, 2016 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What`s up witht hose Psyche NN at mid Virgo?

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posted January 01, 2016 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. My PSYCHE NNODE is 11° VIR 30, which places it 0°40 conjunct my ASC, for what it's worth. I am only an egg in this area.

I tried to study it back in the early '90s, but my head was a'splodin' with so much already. Planetary NODES were just too much. ASTEROID NODES? Uhhhhh ...

Now, it's not giving me a SNODE, but I'll look .... Looks like it'd be Aquarius something or other.

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posted January 01, 2016 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What`s up witht hose Psyche NN at mid Virgo?

I know!

Maybe THAT's the key, Ceri.

There's a link when our PSYCHE NN is in the same general area.

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posted January 01, 2016 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So,

11° VIR 30
09° AQU 30

This puts the ex-producing partner's EROS 0°30 conjunct my PSYCHE SN.

Huh.

Funny, given my SNODE is out of orb of it, but his EROS/PSYCHE is 0° conjunct.

AND ...

My PSYCHE dwad is 9° Aquarius, too.

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posted January 01, 2016 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I know!

Maybe THAT's the key, Ceri.

There's a link when our PSYCHE NN is in the same general area.


Doesn't that just mean it's generational? Moves slowly.

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posted January 01, 2016 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm brain dead when it comes to this topic and not even a twinkle in any chicken/egg eye, but it must be something generational. We're in your parents generation (he's 3 1/2 years older) and we have:

Me: Psyche NN 7 Vir 46 SN 14 Aqu 1
Him: Psyche NN 12 Leo 5 SN 19 Pis 42

My Psyche SNode is conjunct Davison Mercury and Karma and Composite Iris exactly; his is conjunct Composite ASC at Pis 20.4.22.

His Psyche NNode is conjunct Davison Moon exactly; don't see much else.

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posted January 01, 2016 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, helio nodes move extremely slowly.

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posted January 01, 2016 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geo, too, in this case...apparently.

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posted January 01, 2016 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Delilah423:
We're in your parents generation (he's 3 1/2 years older) and we have:

Me: Psyche NN 7 Vir 46 SN 14 Aqu 1
Him: Psyche NN 12 Leo 5 SN 19 Pis 42

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On the other hand there is a 25 degree difference between you and your husband`s NN, with the 3 year age difference.

In our case the age differnce is even larger, 5 years, yet the Psyche-NN is on the exact same degree. No clue why that is.

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posted January 01, 2016 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
have you seen this

?
http://kimfalconer.wordpress.com/2012/10/09/planetary-nodes-revealed/

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posted January 01, 2016 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW I actually gave the degrees of the geocentric Psyche nodes, not helio.


Helio would be

my helio Psyche NN: 00°29 Virgo
my helio Psyche SN: 00°29 Pisces

his helio Psyche NN: 00°30 Virgo
his helio Psyche SN: 00°30 Pisces

(this is due to the helio nodes being extremely extremely slow, the geocentric ones move a bit faster).


Anyway the helio Psyche NN`s are conjunct his NN (0°51)


EDIT
BTW you all did the geocentric Psyche Nodes, too. You have to change from geocentric to heliocentric by clicking the box between "Gregorian" and "Universal time".
I guess all of you will also have the Psyche Nodes at about 00°30 Virgo, as helio Nodes are so slow they are not just merely generational, they are "collective"

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posted January 01, 2016 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
have you seen this

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http://kimfalconer.wordpress.com/2012/10/09/planetary-nodes-revealed/


Great link, thanks a lot Ceri!

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posted January 01, 2016 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Our Psyche NN is
conjunct his mean BML on 18°02 Virgo
opposite my Juno on 16°58 Pisces

(I find it interesting that we have an opposition synastrically between the "wife" and "the other woman"


That is very interesting!

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posted January 01, 2016 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW I actually gave the degrees of the geocentric Psyche nodes, not helio.


Helio would be

my helio Psyche NN: 00°29 Virgo
my helio Psyche SN: 00°29 Pisces

his helio Psyche NN: 00°30 Virgo
his helio Psyche SN: 00°30 Pisces

(this is due to the helio nodes being extremely extremely slow, the geocentric ones move a bit faster).


Anyway the helio Psyche NN`s are conjunct his NN (0°51)


EDIT
BTW you all did the geocentric Psyche Nodes, too. You have to change from geocentric to heliocentric by clicking the box between "Gregorian" and "Universal time".
I guess all of you will also have the Psyche Nodes at about 00°30 Virgo, as helio Nodes are so slow they are not just merely generational, they are "collective"


Yes my intention for the thread is to focus on geocentric nodes and synastry specially in context of Psyche but thanks a lot for the info, very much appreciated.

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posted January 01, 2016 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What`s up witht hose Psyche NN at mid Virgo?

Mine is in Virgo at 7d00 but yeah it seems all the psyche northnodes are in virgo my ex has it in virgo conjunct exact my mercury and my psyche NN conjuncts his Isis @7d in Virgo.

Maybe our next step in evolution in connnection to our psyche involves increasing our interest in our mental health, cleaning up our Psyche and putting our Psyche in order...

^inspired by article from kim you posted.

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posted January 01, 2016 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Makes sense to me

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posted January 01, 2016 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Makes sense to me

I like that, too!

hypatia & I have been talking about this over the course of three threads at the moment...so I want to post the same references on all three...but maybe that's excessive. Just want everyone to be on the same page, if we can.

This one by Glaucus is good, regarding geocentric nodes & synastry: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015709.html

Featuring that cool Knowflake darkdreamer.

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posted January 01, 2016 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
On the other hand there is a 25 degree difference between you and your husband`s NN, with the 3 year age difference.

In our case the age differnce is even larger, 5 years, yet the Psyche-NN is on the exact same degree. No clue why that is.


Maybe the nodes went direct and retrograded again in that 5 year span?

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posted January 01, 2016 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:

Featuring that cool Knowflake darkdreamer.


I remember.
I miss Glaucus here.

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posted January 01, 2016 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
My Psyche NN 18°24 Virgo
my Psyche SN 14°11 Aqua


his Psyche NN 18°23 Virgo
his Psyche SN 14°26 Aquarius


Nope,no interconnection with either nodal axis or Vertex

Well following a hunch I checked for Eros, too. lol

his Eros NN 21°11 Cap
his Eros SN 3°47 Libra

my Eros NN 20°48 Cap
my Eros SN 3°35 Libra


This gives me a little goosebumps, while I understand that most probably the fact him and me share a Psyche-Psyche-conjunction is a factor in the Nodes being close to each other, too, this is not true in terms of ERos

his Eros is on 8 Pisces, mine is on 21 Capricorn.
(of course they are are on each other`s antiscion-squares, but I never was sure if that means anything at all).

Anyway in this instance yes. my natal Vertex is on 21°31 Cancer and my Sun/Moon-mp on 21°31 Capricorn and Eros itself on 20°59 Cancer. It is squaring his Pluto on 21°23 Libra.
the Eros-SN is conjunct this Karma at 3°19 Libra, too and my MC at 4°58 Libra.

It is also close to the antiscion of his Vertex on 28 Virgo (though possibly not close enough, it is much closer to the antiscion of his Saturn on 26°42 Virgo and his DESC on 25°38 Virgo I think, which I guess is some sort of statement itself. lol)


Those asteroid nodes are REALLY REALLY interesting though. I should look into them.


Gobsmacked!

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posted January 02, 2016 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess it makes sense though. I have a skipped step, Jupiter on 11°12 Pisces, which is squaring the nodal axis on 10°09 Sagittarius, and his Eros overlays it, and in fact there are some very close oppositions to his natal chart as well, some asteroids included in this, though I admit his Eros conjunct my Jupiter is a little on the wide side, but I do have Ceres in between, possibly she does a little bridging here.
and it involves our name asteroids.


my NN 10°09 Sagittarius
my Neptune 09°56 Sag, r3 (i)
my ASC 07°03 Sag
his Mercury 09°23 Sag, r7-r4-r3

my Jupiter 11°12 Pisces in 3 (i), r1
my CERES 09°37 Pisces in 3 (i)
his EROS 8°20 Pisces
his CERI 9°09 Pisces


his Mars 11°05 Virgo, r1 (i)
his Jupiter 10°09 Virgo, r10
his AMOR 09°03 Virgo
his name 10°26 Virgo

(I find it interesting that it involves the rulers of all his angular houses, even though the action itself takes place in mutable houses, the axis 3-9 for me and 12-6 for him, with the resulting focal point falling into my 1st house and at the transition from his 8th to 9th house)

When we met this was taking place in the progressions

my p PSYCHE 7°49 Pisces
his p PSYCHE 6°50 Pisces (on my n Pholus by 0°04 - and no, noone could ever have foreseen THAT)
his n EROS 8°20 Pisces

And Transitwise that day:

PHOLUS 8°29 Sagittarius
ASC 9°01 Sagittarius


his name 8°13 Gemini

my name 7°54 Pisces

I guess whatever the true purpose of that meeting or this "connection", it must have something to do with that skipped step of mine.

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