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Lyzet
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posted January 10, 2016 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyzet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So... I'm very drawn to this guy, who is quite a bit younger than me and for that reason I suppressed it in the beginning. But he is expressing some interest and I'm not sure what to think. He's one of my brothers best friends, so I'm not sure whether it's worth testing out - since I don't want to mess things up for them in case it ends badly. However I am rarely drawn to people and I don't want to waste something possibly great for no reason.

I'm new to astrology and only have a very basic understanding. Don't know the first thing about synastry.

What do you guys see? Can you maybe help me shed some light here?

The two natal charts from astro.com are posted further down in the thread. I don't know his TOB.


synastry with wrong TOB for him (if it helps?):

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Lyzet
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posted January 10, 2016 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyzet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the composite chart (I put his TOB at 12.00, because I don't know it):

From what I've been able to find via research is that their may be a lot of nice/attraction-creating aspects (in the synastry chart), but they might come off bad/possesive if badly aspected otherwise? I feel like I'm only able to read snippets completely out of context - unable to look at the bigger picture...

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Lyzet
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posted January 10, 2016 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyzet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently there's a yod in the composite chart with moon apex and saturn and venus as... feet? Seems like google thinks a yod is pretty special, but I think the composite looks kinda quiet (content... almost boring?) - Though the unaspected (unless you counts the "lesser?" aspects) Mars is a riddle to me. As most of it is
Btw I'm new to Lindaland - so hi everyone! It's almost bedtime here in Denmark. I'm pretty excited to see if anyone has had a look when I come back in the morning

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Odette
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posted January 11, 2016 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lyzet!

Welcome to LL!

I'm really sorry you didn't get any replies yet.
I promise I will look at this and give you my feedback.
But could you please post the charts from www.astro.com? They are much easier to read, and astro.com is also more accurate and reliable.

If you don't know how to ^ - you can email me your details - and I will put them up for you.
My email is in my profile

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Lyzet
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posted January 11, 2016 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyzet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Odette

here they are from astro (only natal charts - they won't generate synastry or composite, when I don't know his TOB?)


Him:

me:

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Lyzet
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posted January 11, 2016 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyzet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone?

Is it possible to make synastry and composite charts at astro.com with a sort of John Doe TOB?

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LaceyLeigh
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posted January 11, 2016 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lyzet:
Anyone?

Is it possible to make synastry and composite charts at astro.com with a sort of John Doe TOB?


Yes, totally possible. You just have to exclude house placements.

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LaceyLeigh
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posted January 11, 2016 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see some wide Venus/Mars aspects indicating attraction. Also, his Venus conjuncts your descendant and his Uranus falls into your 7th house which might explain the age difference, but also why you two like each other. His Uranus also hits your Sun and Mars. You aren't each others usual type, but it works.

Your Pluto opposes his moon and squares his Mars this is probably what draws you to him and vice versa. I'm assuming he's at least 18, right? I'd take a shot at it if you're both open to it.

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Lyzet
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posted January 11, 2016 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyzet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He just turned 18... it's pretty crazy. When I was 21 I refused to date someone 19, because of the age diffence - Haha!
I think he might think I'm 21 now (a reoccurring phenomenon actually... maybe I'm very immature), which would be a little awkward It does seem kind of morally doubtful, doesn't it? My brother assures me that we are all grown-ups and can do whatever we like!

Thank you for taking a look LaceyLeigh

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Odette
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posted January 11, 2016 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmmmm.... Ok...

I would love to be all sunshine and rainbows - and tell you nice things, because I can see you are excited about this guy, but I have to be honest with you... and I find the connection between you difficult.

I wouldn't say it's extremely challenging, but there are some issues.

First of all - I'm not one to care about the age gap, because I basically think "age is a number" for anyone 18+.
However, considering your particular placements... I'm not sure that this could work out as a romantic relationship or a fling.

There is definitely an attraction, which I believe would be mutual - so that's a nice thing to have. There can be flirting between you and friendly banter.
But I'm just not sure that this will take off.. or become more serious than that.

I'm saying this because... first of all - His Aquarius Venus retrograde.. is a difficult position for Venus.
At his age - (since he is young).. and having such a complex Venus placement (which is also square his Moon sign) - he won't be an easy guy to date, for *any* woman.
This isn't just about you. This is about any woman under the Sun who comes in contact with him.

He definitely has some pretty *big* problems and hang-ups romantically, that are not easy to resolve - and it might take him a long time - or a few more years at least - to get some control in this area of his life and feel a sense of balance.

Due to the Moon/Venus square.. and the fact that Venus is moving backwards/retrograde... He can be both indecisive and send highly mixed signals. It's likely that his ex gfs would tell you - that he drove them up a wall with the flip-flopping.
He is also never completely sure whether he wants a mere friendship, or something more than that.

You, on the other hand.. having signifiant placements in Libra and Scorpio and also being female - you seem to have a MUCH better handle on "how to have a healthy and loving relationship with another human".
Having friendships and relationships.. getting close to another person... is not something that is all that challenging for *you*. Or, at least - by contrast to him... you are much more approachable, much more loving and much more open.

In a sense I could see how - getting closer to you - would be a good experience for him.. because there is a lot that he could learn from you, and the way in with which you interact with other people, and get close - and develop a bond - over time...

He does not know "how to" get close.. He does not understand the watery depths of your Scorpio Venus...
For instance, the concept of "making love" is something he read about once in a book somewhere.. and it likely went in one ear and out the other.

He can be poetic though... He might have a "way with words".. and he might seem deceptively romantic on a surface level - but don't be fooled... because you are a *much* deeper person than he is on an emotional level. His pretty words can truly be *just* words.

While I do feel you might be good for him... I can't say that I feel the same way vice versa...

At the end of a relationship with him... in my opinion - you would feel grateful for being able to feel - As strange as that may sound...

You would actually think to yourself.. "Wow.. I'm so blessed to be able to *feel* and to have a heart.. because there exist tin-men in this world, with hearts made of stone - who do not have this amazing ability". And you would end it feeling sorry for him... and moving forward.

I think you would be happiest in this situation - if you kept it at a more surface, flirting, friendship.. sort of level... rather than trying to turn it into something deeper.

I also think that - for you - this is more like a crush.. My gut feeling is that you find him physically attractive and particularly good looking. Because I can't imagine (based on the synastry) that you would be very drawn to him.. if he was average looking...

I am saying this purely based on the info I have though.
With a correct time of birth - you can see how the individuals angles match... and also the Vertex axis.
If this is deeper than a mere attraction - if it's a soulmate connection or a past-life connection... the angles would tell that story imo
But from what I am seeing here.... I'm just giving you my honest two cents.

If you like - post the composite chart as well!
That could also maybe explain more regarding the attraction... if you truly feel like this a significant connection...

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Lyzet
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posted January 12, 2016 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyzet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! That is a Lot Odette! Thank you so much for taking the time to do that and here I thought the problems looked to be that it might be a violent, jealous, possesive thing and his auquarius would want freedom...

I must say that I def. thought he was the more balanced person of us - his whole family seems wholesome. Me with my abundance of squares and very slow to trust men (and women to som degree) if at all. I did think there might be trouble with his emotional depth (based on his chart - I think he seems like a quite shy, polite and upstanding guy in real life)- where I want all the fireworks of course...

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Lyzet
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posted January 12, 2016 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyzet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh - and the composite is there somewhere above, but with the wrong (in all likelyhood at least) TOB for him.

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Lyzet
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posted January 12, 2016 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyzet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lyzet
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posted January 12, 2016 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyzet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woops - don't know what happened. Apparently copied an earlier post - twice! and now I can't delete them...

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Odette
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posted January 12, 2016 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lyzet... I think appearances can be deceptive. We don't know what Ascendant he has either.
But having in view that he lacks water in his chart - coupled with the Venus in Aquarius retrograde - I definitely wouldn't say about this guy... that he is more "balanced" than you are on a romantic level.
He is very clueless on this level, and may come across as though like he has Asperger's (intelligent but emotionally withdrawn).

He can be very consistent in his 'image' and the way he comes across to people. He can seem like the kind of person anyone would like (from afar!)... and anyone would easily befriend him on a detached/acquaintance level.
But he doesn't really know how to get closer than that.

Being 18, maybe he hasn't had many (or any!) proper relationships... But in romantic relationships in general - women can have a lot of problems with him - in my opinion.

Even if you are slow to trust - you do have an emotional core.. and you have a desire to get close to another person.. It's part of being "human".
But this desire is something this guy might not have... or not "yet" anyway (until he learns to understand himself).
And when you see this coldness in him - as I said... it might feel like you are talking to the Tin man in the Wizard of Oz.

I will look at the composite properly later. Sorry, it didn't load for me before so I didn't know it was up!

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Odette
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posted January 12, 2016 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wanted to mention... for you and anyone else who might read this - My interpretation does not apply to everyone with Capricorn/Aquarius prominent... nor does it apply to everyone with a lack of water in their chart... or to everyone with Venus retrograde in their chart.

However, putting all these factors together ^^... is what is giving me the Tin man impression.

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Lyzet
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posted January 13, 2016 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyzet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Odette - it's really nice of you to take the time to do this!

I tend to obsess a bit when I like someone But all the glitter is most in my mind I'm sure. I read that some of his aspects might mean he felt some kind of restriction growing up - maybe he wasn't "allowed" to be very emotive or look-at-me or maybe his parents (or just mom) constricted him in a prominent way? Again, I'm not able to put put things together very well.

I'm not sure I'm very dissuaded by the prospect of hardship as such - I think I enjoy some claws and teeth as long as there is reconciliation on the other side. But the whole tin-man idea does sound extremely unappealing, I must say!

I tried interpreting the composite yesterday and (probably very unholistically) and came up with:
a trapeze and a yod - which I think means a lot to overcome. Saturn sextile jupiter (making dreams become a reality - working to bring ideas to life - longterm prospects) square moon trine pluto/sun (accepting eachother for what we are, supporting each other and sexual attraction/need to be together but with possible power struggles and violence?) - and since these "two" are squaring, not being able (or having to work at) bringing these two sides of the relationsship together.
The yod is pretty mystical to me... it is a challenging formation? that also might mean something is fated? The two communicating planets saturn and venus trying to work with their apex the moon, but it is difficult? Working hard to accomplish what you desire - through feelings, which is difficult?

Overall - a willingness to work at it, but a good deal of things to overcome. uprooting all of the other persons problems - so it might get ugly, but might be very transformative. On the other hand it seems like it might just be a good business prospect. I might be mixing things with things I read earlier - it's all pretty blurry in my mind, that's the problem with not having astrology on your backbone

Anyways - it's really helpful also learning-wise. Since I'm so motivated to look at it myself (stumpling about) and then having another's, more overall, perspective to compare it with.

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Lyzet
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posted January 14, 2016 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyzet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If anyone else would like to give their two cents about this connection as well, I would greatly appreciate it

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Odette
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posted January 23, 2021 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*
If you are still around Lyzet, I’m curious how this worked out!

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