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Topic: How do you know when it's time to walk away?
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ChildofVenus
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posted January 15, 2016 05:51 PM
  
Ok I'm sure a lot of people know that I've been asking people to read the charts between this guy and I. Several people have read them and they have all said different things. I know all of this is just potential that you can't base a relationship only on astrology. However things between this guy and I have gone from bad to worse. First thing he tells me that he doesn't want to talk to me that he's not interested in me. Then he'll make a fake account and talk to me. Like the other day we had a argument on his real account. He blocked me and then made a fake account telling me that he wanted to reason with me. So then I called him and he got ****** and called me a psycho saying that he hasn't been making fake accounts. Even though I know it's him who keeps making them. I've talked about this on another forum and people have told me I'm being delusional thinking that this guy likes me. It's true that I do have aspects in my natal chart which make me delusional. I just don't understand why he won't leave me alone if he really doesn't like me. Perhaps he enjoys toying with me? This is why I posted my charts here several times. Some people who read the charts said that there is affection between us. However there could be power plays as well. His Saturn squares my Mercury which I think is another reason why he talks mean to me sometimes.One minute he'll tell me that when I'm in his state he'll come visit me if he's available. Then the next minute he'll say that he's not going to. I really believe that he has some personal issues that contributes to our conflicts. At this point I don't know what to do anymore. Maybe it's time for me to give up on having a friendship with him. I really don't want to he currently has me blocked now but I'll be in his state next week and he knows this. I'm not even sure if he'll meet me or if I should even let him know I'm there. How do you know when it's time to walk away? IP: Logged |
tgem
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posted January 15, 2016 07:08 PM
NOW is the time. Walk away. Your soul is already telling you this...which is why you keep posting about it. You deserve better, regardless of whether the charts say you two have affections toward eachother. God gave you free-will for a reason...IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted January 15, 2016 07:15 PM
I really don't want to give up I wish we could work things out. quote:
Originally posted by tgem:
NOW is the time. Walk away. Your soul is already telling you this...which is why you keep posting about it. You deserve better, regardless of whether the charts say you two have affections toward eachother. God gave you free-will for a reason...
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Septembergirl
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posted January 15, 2016 07:28 PM
What exactly is in your chart that makes you think that you are delusional? IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted January 15, 2016 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by Septembergirl:
What exactly is in your chart that makes you think that you are delusional?
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ChildofVenus
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posted January 15, 2016 07:43 PM
I have a lot of Neptune aspects and I also have Venus in Pisces. IP: Logged |
DopGang
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posted January 15, 2016 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I have a lot of Neptune aspects and I also have Venus in Pisces.
More importantly (imo) is that you have Venus square Neptune. (I have it) Having read what you wrote, I agree, I think you should leave him alone also. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted January 15, 2016 09:00 PM
I was told that since the orb is so wide 9 degrees that it really isn't a square. I just don't understand why he does this if he doesn't like me. I get some people do things for entertainment but it's strange. I do like him though and I wish we could actually be friends. quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
More importantly (imo) is that you have Venus square Neptune. (I have it) Having read what you wrote, I agree, I think you should leave him alone also.
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ChildofVenus
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posted January 15, 2016 09:04 PM
People keep telling me that I'm delusional because I think he likes me. IP: Logged |
DopGang
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posted January 15, 2016 10:49 PM
Oh I didn't notice. Yeah, 9 is pretty wide. IP: Logged |
DopGang
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posted January 15, 2016 10:59 PM
I wish that I could help. For me personally. I don't play games, at all. I expect people to be up front. Now, some fun teasing and flirting is one thing but if it's a stressful guessing game and all that. I'm out.
So in your case. Regardless of what's actually going on whether it's you or him. The dynamic sounds very strange, negative, unhealthy, and stressful. In that case, I'm out. I don't care who's to blame or any of that. It ain't workin' baby. I'm moving on. LOL So that's just me and what I'd do. I'd run.  IP: Logged |
fireopal09
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posted January 16, 2016 12:10 AM
RUNNNN!!!! He is feeding his ego at your expense. ------------------
Claire
"When going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
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ChildofVenus
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posted January 16, 2016 03:25 AM
He did say he has low self esteem other people who have talked to stated that he was insecure. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it. The last time he and I met up we were intimate. I'm not sure if he'll meet up with me this time. Yes I know this is all really unhealthy I just wish he understood how much his friendship means to me. quote:
Originally posted by fireopal09:
RUNNNN!!!! He is feeding his ego at your expense.
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polkadotstars
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posted January 16, 2016 11:07 AM
You won't leave until something clicks and you're mentally ready to leave. I've been there. I've been in many relationships that sucked and I wasn't happy but I stayed because of a million excuses, despite the fact that I had friends and family tell me why I should leave. It wasn't until I had the last straw that broke the camel's back, per se, that I was finally ready to walk away. You can study synastry all you want and overanalyze your situation until you're exhausted. There's a quote that I heard which is quite fitting for you right now, "We accept the love that we think we deserve". The choice of happiness is yours to make. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted January 16, 2016 11:33 AM
We aren't in a relationship but I suppose the same thing would apply to friendships as well. I guess it's foolish of me to think that things could get better.
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
You won't leave until something clicks and you're mentally ready to leave. I've been there. I've been in many relationships that sucked and I wasn't happy but I stayed because of a million excuses, despite the fact that I had friends and family tell me why I should leave. It wasn't until I had the last straw that broke the camel's back, per se, that I was finally ready to walk away. You can study synastry all you want and overanalyze your situation until you're exhausted. There's a quote that I heard which is quite fitting for you right now, "We accept the love that we think we deserve". The choice of happiness is yours to make.
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Elysia
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posted January 16, 2016 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
You won't leave until something clicks and you're mentally ready to leave. I've been there. I've been in many relationships that sucked and I wasn't happy but I stayed because of a million excuses, despite the fact that I had friends and family tell me why I should leave. It wasn't until I had the last straw that broke the camel's back, per se, that I was finally ready to walk away. You can study synastry all you want and overanalyze your situation until you're exhausted. There's a quote that I heard which is quite fitting for you right now, "We accept the love that we think we deserve". The choice of happiness is yours to make.
^ This. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted January 16, 2016 12:44 PM
So basically I'm being delusional thinking that things might change? I like to be optimistic.
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Originally posted by Elysia:
^ This.
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Elysia
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posted January 16, 2016 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
So basically I'm being delusional thinking that things might change? I like to be optimistic.
Not that you're being delusional per se, but that getting too wrapped up in interpretations and missing real-life red flags or warning signals is a possibility. I've been the friend and the girl both, and what polkadots says is right. Until you decide, and something *clicks* inside of you, you stay stuck to a relationship that may not be good for you. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted January 16, 2016 02:20 PM
Well yes I know you can't base a relationship on astrology. I haven't been ignoring the warning signs I know things are really bad. I just hope that maybe it'll get better and I don't feel that way because of the interpretations.
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Originally posted by Elysia:
Not that you're being delusional per se, but that getting too wrapped up in interpretations and missing real-life red flags or warning signals is a possibility. I've been the friend and the girl both, and what polkadots says is right. Until [b]you decide, and something *clicks* inside of you, you stay stuck to a relationship that may not be good for you.[/B]
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Elysia
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posted January 16, 2016 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Well yes I know you can't base a relationship on astrology. I haven't been ignoring the warning signs I know things are really bad. I just hope that maybe it'll get better and I don't feel that way because of the interpretations.
Right... Just make yourself unavailable to him and watch how things unfold. Should give you a pretty good idea. IP: Logged |
Cappi112
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posted January 17, 2016 10:28 AM
Venus in Pisces does not equal delusion at all. That's a very strange take on Venus in Pisces, IMO.But, Venus in Pisces (and I say this AS one), can sometimes forget to look at herself and what she's gotten into, and protect and nurture herself before another. It is the most sacrificial Venus sign, and often times, she will learn the hard way not to give her entire heart and soul away to someone until the lesson is learned. Have you ever heard the proverb "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing"? That is something anyone with Venus in Pisces needs to repeat to themselves, day in and day out. Not just in love relationships (but especially so). I'm going to ignore the charts, the synastry, your natal, etc, and tell you simply as a forum friend reading your posts: there is no relationship with this man. He does not care for you. You are overanalyzing details about the 'relationship' because you have somehow, through astrology or just a deep need for something to work out here, convinced yourself of more between you than there is. Sometimes astrology CAN give us hope and the power to forgive and forget and start over. I've experienced this. But never have I experienced it with a man who showed me as much toxic disdain and dislike as yours is showing you. There is simply no further analysis here - your loving soul needs to let go of this one and heal. You have dug yourself deeply into an abusive, masochistic cycle that will waste you many years, when you could be starting fresh and finding your true soul mate, if that is what you believe in. Do not let this man hold you back any longer. We all across the boards have been unanimous: this one is not worth saving. <3. Hugs IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted January 17, 2016 12:58 PM
Actually no I haven't really been basing this off of astrology. I mean yes we do have rough synastry and I just thought that could be contributing to all the conflicts. I've never thought he and I were actually in a relationship. We met online two years ago in May and last year he and I met up in June. I was the one who perused him and told him that I was sexually attracted to him. For awhile he kept saying he wasn't interested but then eventually we met. In person everything was fine I actually had a nice time with him. He stated that I could come and see him whenever I wanted. Though I knew we weren't in a relationship because it's not something that I wanted with him. I was suppose to go back and see him last month but something came up. So I'm going next week I don't really understand his behavior though. He tells me that he doesn't want to talk to me. Then he'll make a fake account and talk to me about the things he knows I like. When I ask him why he does this he says personal freedom whatever that means. Believe me I know he and I will never be in a romantic relationship because it's not what I want. I do however enjoy spending time with him. I just don't know what to think about why he keeps adding me on accounts if he doesn't want to talk to me. Recently we had a argument and then a few days later he added me on another made up account asking if he could reason with me. I don't understand it really but if he and I meet up next week I am going to let him know how I feel about everything. quote:
Originally posted by Cappi112:
Venus in Pisces does not equal delusion at all. That's a very strange take on Venus in Pisces, IMO.But, Venus in Pisces (and I say this AS one), can sometimes forget to look at herself and what she's gotten into, and protect and nurture herself before another. It is the most sacrificial Venus sign, and often times, she will learn the hard way not to give her entire heart and soul away to someone until the lesson is learned. Have you ever heard the proverb "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing"? That is something anyone with Venus in Pisces needs to repeat to themselves, day in and day out. Not just in love relationships (but especially so). I'm going to ignore the charts, the synastry, your natal, etc, and tell you simply as a forum friend reading your posts: there is no relationship with this man. He does not care for you. You are overanalyzing details about the 'relationship' because you have somehow, through astrology or just a deep need for something to work out here, convinced yourself of more between you than there is. Sometimes astrology CAN give us hope and the power to forgive and forget and start over. I've experienced this. But never have I experienced it with a man who showed me as much toxic disdain and dislike as yours is showing you. There is simply no further analysis here - your loving soul needs to let go of this one and heal. You have dug yourself deeply into an abusive, masochistic cycle that will waste you many years, when you could be starting fresh and finding your true soul mate, if that is what you believe in. Do not let this man hold you back any longer. We all across the boards have been unanimous: this one is not worth saving. <3. Hugs
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ChildofVenus
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posted January 17, 2016 01:01 PM
I just mean does it really make sense for a person to keep adding you on made up accounts if they aren't interested in you. Or maybe it's just for entertainment but still I think it's strange. I guess maybe I'm just over analyzing. I just think it's weird that a person would keep doing that to a person they have no interest in. IP: Logged |
Cappi112
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posted January 17, 2016 02:12 PM
What I simply mean is, it doesn't matter what defense you can come up with for his actions - astrology aside (and btw, since we are discussing this on an astrology forum, you ARE in fact basing some of this decision off of that, and it's okay) - he isn't treating you well, period. Based on what you have described, it simply does not seem like he cares to the degree you do, and I would not wait around for that to change.IP: Logged |
Cappi112
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posted January 17, 2016 02:14 PM
Who knows why he keeps making fake accounts? To me that screams more of an instability in him than some kind of romantic gesture. What would be romantic would be him saying and maintaining, as HIMSELF, that he wants to be with you or at least try to see what's between you two for sure. Focus on you : what you want. what would make you happy. How you feel. Stop trying to figure out what he's thinking - no one knows. IP: Logged |
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