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Enneline
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posted January 16, 2016 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found out that i do share strong synastries with my few male friends as well (most of my friends are female though and basically i do not believe that much in platonic friendships between opposite sexes).

But the synastries do lack strong aspects involving venus & mars & moon. Ironically this is not the case with my female friends. Often i would share strong sexual aspects with my girls but not with the boys.

Like this one: we have strong house overlays but no strong love/sex aspects. (i am the one outside, i do square his moon/venus trine widely with my moon, it's not shown though and he in turn does nothing with my moon and my venus (apart an inconjunct with his mars)



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posted January 16, 2016 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and this is the synastry with my (female) friend S. See my mars trines her libra stellium and my moon falls in her 5h house.
We would be a great couple, wouldn't we?

So, with female friends i may have sexual aspects but not with my male friends

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LeeLoo2014
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posted January 16, 2016 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's unlikely there isn't sexual attraction in the first synastry, it probably is, to an extent, on both sides

But as Papa Freud discovered, humans subject everything to potential sublimation, projection, repression and all the other mechanisms. For example, if one of the people is already involved, or if there are special conditions (such as the person is your boss, your pupil, big age difference etc.) romantic/sexual impulses are actively transgressed by the psyche of one or both people and they play out differently.

As for the lady friends, there are often yin/yang aspects in friendships, they simply show, IMO, a meshing of energy, compatibility. Yin Yang aspects such as Moon Sun, Moon Mars, Venus Mars are a symbol of successful blend, compatibility, harmony, being a "couple" a "pair" (of friends in the context)

In romantic contexts, sexual aspects play out as overt sexual attraction if there is also a romantic interest (being available for it, for practical or psychological reasons). There is also the issue of romantic attraction, the potential to fall in love with the other person, for many times physical attraction is not the only factor of engaging in a romantic relationship with someone.

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posted January 16, 2016 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

thanks for your input, darling

oh yes, there is sexual chemistry between him and I but we both decided that we remain friends only and apart from that he lives too far away. I guess the lack of venus aspects is responsible

i see what you are saying but does this mean you can never be sure if a synastry is for friendship or for love only? No real reliable indicators?

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posted January 16, 2016 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw: i want to introduce male friend from synastry 1 to female friend from synastry 2. What do you think?
Her libra stellium would trine his venus in aqua

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posted January 16, 2016 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry interpretations are not fixed to only one way to put them, mars for example is the planet of drive, energy, how we go after what we want. This includes but is not limited to sex, same with every planet out there.
So say you have mars conjunct venus with your grandma, that wouldnt mean you have sexual attraction with her, maybe she gives you advice about relationships..
Same goes for houses. Charts only show indication of what could be in general, we give the chart its right context !

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posted January 18, 2016 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, babe

Of course one can see many things in a chart, without any background info, but a thorough analysis is a dialogue between astrologer and "subject" , which includes background and relationship type, rather than playing guessing games, although they are fun, the purpose is to find out what we don't know.

I have a list here with romantic/marital aspects, but all these aspects may be present between family members, friends, work colleagues etc. added to the parental, friendships, work markers.
The way to do astrology is based on the kind of relationship that already is, what you see is what you get in most cases. And to what is happening already, we can find layers and explanations with astrology.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000398-2.html

Yes, their synastry is focused there, but the rest looks scattered, for example her Moon doesn't seem to receive many aspects, at first glance. I thought he was already in a relationship though?

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posted January 18, 2016 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fiola:
Synastry interpretations are not fixed to only one way to put them, mars for example is the planet of drive, energy, how we go after what we want. This includes but is not limited to sex, same with every planet out there.
So say you have mars conjunct venus with your grandma, that wouldnt mean you have sexual attraction with her, maybe she gives you advice about relationships..
Same goes for houses. Charts only show indication of what could be in general, we give the chart its right context !

Ah, too bad. I assumed this but i'd rather have clear indicators if there is a romantic Approach or not- but it's unlikely that in any synastry with relatives so-called "Love aspects" will not be found.

For venus conj. mars: i have this with one of my best (female) friends. We share a very lively, passionate friendship and the 2 of us would rather committ suicide than becoming romantically involved with each other

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posted January 18, 2016 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi, babe

Of course one can see many things in a chart, without any background info, but a thorough analysis is a dialogue between astrologer and "subject" , which includes background and relationship type, rather than playing guessing games, although they are fun, the purpose is to find out what we don't know.

I have a list here with romantic/marital aspects, but all these aspects may be present between family members, friends, work colleagues etc. added to the parental, friendships, work markers.
The way to do astrology is based on the kind of relationship that already is, what you see is what you get in most cases. And to what is happening already, we can find layers with astrology.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000398-2.html

Yes, their synastry is focused there, but the rest looks scattered, for example her Moon doesn't seem to receive many aspects, at first glance. I thought he was already in a relationship though?


yes, it's like with Tarot: you need to do a little interview with the questioner in order to give a proper Analysis.

Thank you for the links!

ah, too bad. I thought that, too. Hmpf. No, he is not taken, not at all (this is another friend). Hey, a man with moon/venus trine in Aqua n libra won't allow any woman to marry him very quickly. He is far too much in beautiful women to decide for one only

Btw. what do you see in our synastry apart from the sexual attraction?

Of course I would do an Analysis for you in return or do spreads for you or anything that you want from me

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posted January 18, 2016 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Enneline:
yes, it's like with Tarot: you need to do a little interview with the questioner in order to give a proper Analysis.

Thank you for the links!

ah, too bad. I thought that, too. Hmpf. No, he is not taken, not at all (this is another friend). Hey, a man with moon/venus trine in Aqua n libra won't allow any woman to marry him very quickly. He is far too much in beautiful women to decide for one only

Btw. what do you see in our synastry apart from the sexual attraction?

Of course I would do an Analysis for you in return or do spreads for you or anything that you want from me


Sure dear, I'll do it a little bit later, I have some work to do now (nice work, prepare food for a party )...but I am confused, is this not B? He has the same Sun, Venus etc, or am I mistaken??

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posted January 18, 2016 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Sure dear, I'll do it a little bit later, I have some work to do now (nice work, prepare food for a party )...but I am confused, is this not B? He has the same Sun, Venus etc, or am I mistaken??

No, this is not B, but you are right, they have the same sun and venus but B's moon is in aries.
Wow, i didn't discover this. Why do i like mates with sun in cap and venus in Aqua?

don't Forget to post your q Thanks in advance!

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posted January 18, 2016 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are of course some serious holes here, for you are not aspecting his Moon/Venus trine, which I think should be crucial for a relationship. But for a friendship, you have a great basis here, a few examples:
Sun opp Sun - this is a very animated aspect, you two feel like shining together, even if someone there is a sense of competition, but at times, this competition turns into a very invigorating patter between you, you feel you can both shine, with your differences, in the interaction

the Mercury opposition is a bit more difficult, because he may feel you antagonize him at times, but you will also always surprise him with this aspect, almost startle him lol

but given it is connected to my most favorite aspect here, that Kite with the Marses, I think this is a beyond awesome aspect for being buddies, with a zest of banter and sexual attraction too, so fit for a Gemini Mars, this whole combo is very appealing to you, especially; and the Mars Pluto side is touching you deeply, you may feel he makes you grow up here, with the whole combo around your IC

also, his Jupiter on MC - I wonder what this means, is his career Jupiterian? he seems to be extra nurturing here, and also rich has a very important impact on your nodal axis, and completes your Venus Saturn sextile, it's also on your vertex, he is bringing light on Venus Saturn AND the nodal axis, with his MC direction, and in fact the Vx aspects are strong on both sides, it looks like a meeting bringing some lucky changes for both.

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posted January 18, 2016 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, that's a great interpretations. Thanks sooo much. I really appreciate.
Yes, we share a very flirtatious friendship with no benefits though
He somehow always manages to cheer me up, to believe in myself and he is also very protectiv and generous!

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