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Faith
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posted January 26, 2016 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm always curious about what turns up in event charts.

I just decided to look at the chart for when my wedding began, and I noticed something for the first time. Please keep in mind I knew nothing about real astrology back then, and this wasn't planned:

The transiting DSC is conjunct my sun by only 0.12°.

Tr Saturn is conjunct tr Venus, 0.41°.
Interesting because my Venus is conjunct my husband's Saturn (1.11°).

It's not all sweetness & light, but I like that my composite chart with that moment (start time of wedding) has moon-Jupiter conjunct the MC, all less than 2°, and in my husband's composite with the moment, Jupiter is tightly conjunct Venus. Not so hot that Chiron is right on the DSC there but don't forget Chiron heals something, too.

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posted January 27, 2016 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, indeed. Wedding charts!

Well, the Moon-Jupiter and Venus-Jupiter is just so sweet and lovely, and shows that this, for each of you, is really about love and intimacy, no matter what difficulties arise (and Chiron on the DESC - yes very healing, but not really that easy, right?)

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posted January 27, 2016 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You made me look up my parents composite with their wedding chart.

My Mom has a New Moon in hers!

my mom`s wedding-composite
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Mars 17°11 Leo
Moon 17°51 Leo
Sun 18°13 Leo
Saturn 21°17 Leo


opposing

Pholus 19°32 Aquarius


plus

Juno 26°12 Cap
conjunct
NN 28°59 Cap


and

Karma 3°53 Aquarius
conjunct
DESC 1°56 Aquarius


Most notably in my DAd`s wedding composite
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Sun 4°05 Aries (conj. Mercury 5°41 Aries)
sextile
Moon 4°21 Gemini


- usually i might not even have noticed the sextile (which is a fault of mine, I SHOULD pay attention to those. lol), but here it is exact and BOTH have a Sun-Moon-aspect within their wedding-composite-


Mars on 29°54 Leo
conjunct
Uranus 28°00 Leo

opposing
Jupiter 28°35 Aquarius

trine
Pallas 27°23 Sagittarius


Hmm, nothing unpredictable about his behaviour, though his mindleaps are sometimes difficult to follow for my mom, and she can get a little annoyed, when he is acting (in her eyes) too childish or too erratic (mentally)

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Faith
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posted January 28, 2016 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Ceri! Great astro-stories as usual

Thank you!

quote:
Karma 3°53 Aquarius
conjunct
DESC 1°56 Aquarius

LOL, my husband has Karma-MC exact in his composite with the wedding.

It's @ 5 Pisces, which is what I recently called one of my "Phantom degrees" because it comes up in my charts so often, possibly a reverberation of this pattern:

Composite SN with my father: 5 Pisces
Composite sun with my father: 5 Sag
My father's natal Saturn: 5 Sag

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LeeLoo2014
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posted January 29, 2016 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents wedding chart is here, I hope it can give you additional insight the analysis is in the other thread, the listed link.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/004618.html

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posted January 29, 2016 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars conjunct Uranus = super awesome sex methinks

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Faith
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posted January 29, 2016 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Lee!

So, interesting...just following the train of thought from above...your father has ASC-Karma natally, and the wedding chart has a DSC-Karma conjunction...which is conjunct your mother's Karma in the first house!

Also your parents' wedding anniversary date is the day after my parents' (different year, but conjunct suns!)

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posted January 29, 2016 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On my parents' wedding day

Tr Karma 19.01 Scorpio
Father's natal Mercury 18.48 Scorpio

You know I can't believe this but Chiron, in their wedding chart, is at 17 Pisces, conjunct my 18 Pisces moon, and my 19 Pisces composite Chiron with my husband. Is that weird?

My father's composite with a noon wedding (not sure of time) has sun tightly conjunct Venus in the 10H, tightly trine Karma-Pallas. Jupiter on the DSC (conjunct my Jupiter), Juno near the ASC, 3.13 orb.

The wedding's transiting Vesta conjunct my mother's Lilith-Juno.

Well I don't have her birth time, nor the wedding time, but some multi-composite placements must be accurate:

28 Leo Pluto
28 Libra Neptune
26 Pisces Mars (apex of yod)

^ square 29 Sag Juno

^ trine Chiron 27 Aries, Jupiter 26 Aries

Psyche conjunct Pholus, 0.01°

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posted January 29, 2016 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Mars conjunct Uranus = super awesome sex methinks

My friend has this in synastry & composite with her boyfriend...the composite has a tight Mars-Uranus-Jupiter. Yeah, amazing, but it's sad how that can distort the relationship...like he gets so overwhelmed by that, he forgets how much he really loves her, for more than just that.

I'll delete this later.

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posted January 30, 2016 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FAith,

yes I notice that my parent`s wedding chart share some of my natal placements, too.

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(the angles are correct)

and the ASC is conjunct their composite Pluto, and just about 6 degrees off their comosite ASC, which means there must have been an exact alignment a few hours earlier.

Their composite has ALSO a Cancer Moon, just on 14 Cancer, composite Uranus on 7 Cancer (Uranus is an important planet to them and not at all unstable, my Mum has it conjunct her ASC natally, part of a Yod including her Venus-Mars-conjunction and my Dad`s Venus-Jupiter-conjunction; my Dad has it in 10th house, though it is not all that pronounced for him, except that his Sun, Venus, Jupiter are all in Aquarius)


their Ceres 9°37 Pisces
their Juno 9°11 Pisces
(their composite Jupiter is on 9 Pisces, too if I remember it right, and my Mom`has an exact MC-NN-conjunction on 8 Pisces natally, and at the time of their marriage my Dad`s solar arc Venus was on 8°44 Pisces; my Mum`s n MC on 8°15 Pisces, her n NN on 8°32 Pisces)

my Ceres 9°38 Pisces
my Jupiter 11°12 Pisce


their Pluto 4°11 Libra
my MC 4°58 Libra

(their IC on my Dr Saturn exact btw)

(there are other alignments, but the Ceres one always intrigues me.
esp. since my Mum has Ceres in Pisces, too, just hers is at 2°39 Pisces)

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posted January 30, 2016 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While it is true of course, that the wedding chart indicates the "relationship" and thus Venus might indicate the sharing of romantic feelings, Mars how you act, it also seems to me that surprisingly often the gender planets actually will tilt a little more to the partner of that gender.
Meaning Venus (and Moon) most often will tilted a little more to the woman, while Mars and Sun, too, often are more indicative of the man. Of course there might be exceptions to this.
(and I rejected that notion for years, being all about Aqua-equality and such, but it just comes up again and again)

Also it seems to me that if a planet is tightly conjoined (maybe even just exactly aspecting) a personal planet in a chart, that partner might give most expression to the quality.
Again, exceptions are very possible.

Here in the case of my parents

Moon is in Cancer conjunct my Mum`s ASC, and in fact she has exhibted most of the Cancer-traits in the marriage. You can see it is conjunct Saturn here, and she did a lot of structuring (to that day it feels), which is in stark contradiction to her need for independence and being appreciated and valued for her independence as well, too.
Which might be reminiscent of that Aries-Venus (she has quite a fierce temper, though most of the time it comes out more according to her brooding Scorpio-Sun, not quite Aries-typical, unless a fuse is smoldering than she can be very Aries - temperamental - interestingly my IC is in Aries, so that would have been part of my surrounding as a child. Family home)

This Venus as you can see is conjunct Chiron exact and opposing Uranus.
While that once more emphasizes her Uranian streak and her pull to Uranians (married an Aqua after all!) it also shows that there is a wound inherent in her, something that needed to be healed. Which is very true, even though undiagnosed, she`s been suffering from a bit of a depression, at least partially, which is probably due to her own experiences in life, which was a combination of any kind of security taken away from her in a young age and at the same times the demand put on her to take over a lot of responsibility and PROVIDE security for others.

It seems to be really indicated not only in her natal chart, but you can see it in the placements of the Cancer-Moon conjunct Saturn and the Aries-Venus conjunct Chiron and opposite Uranus here, too.


As for my DAd, it is maybe not that obvious. Mars in Cancer, well he is not an outwardly very emotional man, but family is his no 1 priority, and while he has strong intellectual capacities and working in such a field, he finds also immense joy in working in the house, and especially like working in the garden or creating art from wood. Which is a more recent development, following a documentary we saw of Atlantis, and it was like some "memory" ignited in him. lol

Anyway he has always been nurturing in a very practical way, and is extremely emotional when it comes to my Mom.
Sun in Gemini here interestingly trines his own Sun exact.
I wouldnīt count the opposition to Neptune with this large orb anymore, also because it has never been eveident either in his personality nor in the relationship itself.


Surprisingly I just noticed that the PoF in marriage/first meeting charts seem to be closely conjoined to "something" and is pretty determing (maybe also because it really highlights the interrelation between Sun, Moon and ASC and thus combines the primary triad?)
Here it is conjoined with Valentine - which seems true, a point of joy and fulfillment seems to be the sharing of that romantic vibration to them.


The midpoints within that marriage chart illuminate the picture even further

Sun conjunct Jupiter/ASC 0°09
which is just such a positive beautiful picture, I would not need to look any further. lol

It certainly reflects the positive outlook and cheerfulness my Dad exhibits, but more than this it is something that the marriage itself exhibits.


SUN TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/ASC
The capacity to enjoy pleasant and congenial company, the desire to create a
beautiful home.


Moon conjunct Mercury/Mars 0°38
(yes, my Mom has a sharp tongue and a avery acute mind and wit, and part of their expression of their emotional connection is that teasing-behaviour, you most often hear on the playground in school. lol)


They don`t mince words, especially my Mom doesn`t. My Dad sometimes does, or well postpones the expression of his thoughts onto a later moment, when he is calmer about it. Unless it is about philosophical things, they can debate about these for hours, days sometimes. lol

Mercury square Moon/Neptune 0°00
MERCURY TO MIDPOINT MOON/NEPTUNE
Control of inner vision by intelligence and common sense. Fantasy, imagination, artistic talents

Well, sometimes, especially in verbal exchange, they do tend to misunderstand each other, it`s not often and it gets always cleared up (see the midpoint picture above with Moon=Mercury/Mars you donīt let things boil under the surface for long! and not with the next picture either)


Mercury = Uranus/ASC 0°09
MERCURY TO MIDPOINT URANUS/ASC
Nervous planning; fault-finding, the tendency to interfere into
everything; ability to sum up conditions or circumstances quickly;
organising ability. Sudden news; technological or industrial
progress.


Well, they can organize greatly together. But there usually is a lot of discussion beforehand. and just a strange thing but electric devices tend to stop working or explode in the household.
Heck recently even the can we keep our coffee in exploded! Twice! I mean two cans of that series, no clue how that could happen. lol

But we constantly have to exchange lightbulbs and other electric devices, sometimes feels like the energy is too much for those. lol

Venus = Mercury/ASC 0°05
(you can see how much of their relationship rests on their ability and lust for communication )

VENUS TO MIDPOINT MERCURY/ASC
The disclosure of one's personal feelings to one's intimate circle,
expression of feelings about love, intimacy, and the arts.Exchange of thoughts about love. To find friendly thinking.

(they are enjoying theatre, art, reading, cultural trips and such things a lot, too)
Well I am their daughter, and it shows I guess

Mars conjunct Pluto/MC 0°10

Well, my Dad (as the male part) was very successful in his job, up to a degree. He was excerting quite a big influence, though he refused all offers to gain MORE power and influence. He was offered some diplomatic and political functions, that he refused (which was of course detrimental to the latter part of his career, but it was his choice to stay his own "ethic course")

It also shows, I believe, that as a couple they excert a great influence on their surroundings, very evident in the positions they had/ have in a charity organizations and that people always look for them to have all the answers.

Mars square Node/ASC 0°13
MARS TO MIDPOINT NODE/ASC
Working for the common good; the doer .


ASC conjunct Moon/Pluto 0°23

I think this shows the rather intense emotional connection to each other they exhibit


ASC opposite (DESC conj.) Venus/Node 0°22
I think this shows that their marriage was to be a love marriage.


ASC square Uranus/Node 0°44
and a pretty unusual at that

MC opposite Neptune/PLuto 0°49
well IC falling onto the "supernatural midpoint". Interesting.


Ebertin interpretes it as
"an intensified and purified soul-life"

Well almost like the very worldly visible aim or destination of their marriage contains quite a transcendental vibe, maybe working for the collective. Which they do of course.

Jupiter square Neptune/Node 0°58
Jupiter opposite Mercury/Neptune 0°45

The midpoint-astrologers donīt like Neptune (they always associate it with weakness, dissolution, dishonesty or fantasy and delusion and so on).
in this case however with the combination with Jupiter, Mercury and Node, Ithink it rather shows a highly idealistic picture, maybe asking too much of each other`s "moral code". but ultimately reflecting their compassionate view on people,c onnections and interrelations with others. Which often leads to some feeling of disappointment, because honestly, most other people are more selfish than they are.

Saturn square Venus/Jupiter 0°10
The other planet that gets a real bad rap in midpoint astrology is Saturn, however I think this is actually helpful to them as it introduces a groundedness and realism to their romantic idealism and enthusiasm, and probably also helps with the idealism projected onto other people.
Though yes, I guess sometimes it might feel like a wet blanket.


Saturn opposite Jupiter/Uranus 0°56
SATURN TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/URANUS
The introduction of patience and practicality to boundless
self-projection; temperance over excess. The occurrence of sudden obstacles before the attainment of an objective,


Uranus opposite Sun/Jupiter 0°25
And that would be one heightening the enjoyment once more.
lol


Pluto opposite Venus/Jupiter 0°42

PLUTO TO MIDPOINT VENUS/JUPITER
The enjoyment of an unusually large measure of popularity, the ability
to gain favour with the masses, a state of great happiness.


Pluto square Jupiter/Uranus 0°24
PLUTO TO MIDPOINT JUPITER/URANUS
An unusual striving for knowledge and understanding, a strong
awareness of purpose in life, a far-seeing creative activity. Tremendous
drive to success; publicity;

BTW the Saturn-Pluto-square in their marriage chart definitely made itself felt in terms of external circumstances mostly, and it was not easy, but maybe it falling onto the "sudden luck and sudden relief" midpoint (Jupiter/Urans) was helpful in the end.

Pluto conjunct Mars/Node 0°46
PLUTO TO MIDPOINT MARS/NODE
Record joint achievements


Node opposite Sun/Moon 0°39
It is certainly quite interesting and encouraging to see the "purpose" aligned with the Sun/Moon-mp, though it might be a karmic/ past thing, too, with the Sun/Moon-mp falling onto the SN actually.


NODE TO MIDPOINT SUN/MOON
Getting along well with others, possibility fateful contact.

Actually this midpoint-profile of their marriage chart is unusually positive (usually you get a lot more "gloomy" ones). But then again they have been married for 41 years so far and still in love with each other, so I guess it must work. lol

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