posted February 03, 2016 09:56 PM            

is anyone lilith in synastry? lilith also seems to always have the upper hand as well.

posted February 03, 2016 10:15 PM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
and it also depends how pluto is placed in the person's natal? it could be dissipated which makes the person feel kind weird feeling dominant. it depends on the natal.

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posted February 03, 2016 10:21 PM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
pluto always seems to want to control. i know that because my friend is pluto and his boyfriend is mercury and he tells me "i always want to control his HEAD!"......LOL

is anyone lilith in synastry? lilith also seems to always have the upper hand as well.

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posted February 04, 2016 12:16 AM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
is anyone lilith in synastry? lilith also seems to always have the upper hand as well.

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I have my lilith conjunct someone's mercury exact. I can often tell what she's thinking or feeling without any words. Lots of sexual word play and flirting between us. I don't try to control her though - if anything, I try to get her to let loose and break away from her inhibitions.

Her saturn is square my mercury, so she thinks the way I talk is inappropriate/naughty/disrespectful. But the lilith/mercury aspect negates it somewhat.

posted February 04, 2016 08:12 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
I have my lilith conjunct someone's mercury exact. I can often tell what she's thinking or feeling without any words. Lots of sexual word play and flirting between us. I don't try to control her though - if anything, I try to get her to let loose and break away from her inhibitions.

Her saturn is square my mercury, so she thinks the way I talk is inappropriate/naughty/disrespectful. But the lilith/mercury aspect negates it somewhat.

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posted February 04, 2016 12:41 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Didn't think Lilith was really powerful in synastry.

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posted February 04, 2016 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Like anything else, it's hard to isolate the energy of one aspect. I certainly can't prove it in a court of law.

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posted February 04, 2016 03:19 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
So Lilith aspects can be felt in synastry? Are they powerful?

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According to some astrologers, yes. Lilith is raw and untamed sexuality. Mythologically, she was Adam's first wife who refused to be dominated by him. IMO, it combines the freedom and liberation of Aquarius with the sexuality of Scorpio.

posted February 05, 2016 12:28 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
According to some astrologers, yes. Lilith is raw and untamed sexuality. Mythologically, she was Adam's first wife who refused to be dominated by him. IMO, it combines the freedom and liberation of Aquarius with the sexuality of Scorpio.

The Lilith person in synastry may seem tempting and "wrong" to the planet person. A sort of "I shouldn't, but I really want to..." kind of energy.

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posted February 05, 2016 09:37 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
IMO, it combines the freedom and liberation of Aquarius with the sexuality of Scorpio.

The Lilith person in synastry may seem tempting and "wrong" to the planet person. A sort of "I shouldn't, but I really want to..." kind of energy.

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posted February 05, 2016 09:38 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Are the Lilith trines and sextiles powerful?

for example Venus trine Lilith in synastry?

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posted February 05, 2016 11:39 AM            

It's made several contacts in synastry over the years.
So with pluto (and probably other 'outer' planets) They are not personal planets so I don't think that they give personal power. They may offer power that works for us personally, but it's not the sort of thing that I believe that we just tap into voluntarily.
In fact, only since I've become aware that it was Pluto in my chart that caused certain traits about myself, I may not have even been aware of them. The things that it does I think are there, but subconsciously, almost like, "You mean not everyone else is this way???"
In synastry I think it's also this way and this is why they say that Pluto (or any other outer planet) has the upper hand. The Pluto person isn't consciously seeking out control over the venus person, but may do so without even being aware of it. The Venus person then may be very aware of it because it affects them very personally and very strongly. To pluto, it's just instinct, it's just life, it's "normal".
I don't think it's even a bad thing by default. It may only feel intense to the venus person. The pluto person may think, "What the heck is wrong with you? Why are you getting bent out of shape?" It may not be intentional. It's just that Venus may or may not like it.

A lot of how it operates depends on the natal contacts and other synastry contacts also.

That's just my two cents on how I view these types of connections.
Outer planet subconsciously pushes the inner planet person's buttons. They may be drawn to the inner planet person but at the same time not fully understand why without other contacts.

posted February 05, 2016 12:49 PM            

Pluto trine Moon

Pluto opposition Mercury

Pluto opposition Venus

Pluto trine mars

Pluto opposition Jupiter

Pluto square Neptune

Pluto square Uranus

Then we have

Venus square Mars (I'm the mars person)

Mars trine Mars

Sun opposite Venus (he's the sun)

Venus trine Neptune (think it might be a double whammy)

Venus opposite Jupiter (in composite)

Venus square Saturn (I'm the Saturn)

Mercury square Saturn (he's Saturn)

Mercury sextile Saturn (I'm Mercury)

This is why I ask if the Pluto person ever feels anything because being the planet person I do.

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Here's my take, based completely off of my own personal experience.
Natally, my pluto is in first house conjunct asc. I think this is the strongest felt and noticeable pluto aspect that I have.

It's made several contacts in synastry over the years.
So with pluto (and probably other 'outer' planets) They are not personal planets so I don't think that they give personal power. They may offer power that works for us personally, but it's not the sort of thing that I believe that we just tap into voluntarily.
In fact, only since I've become aware that it was Pluto in my chart that caused certain traits about myself, I may not have even been aware of them. The things that it does I think are there, but subconsciously, almost like, "You mean not everyone else is this way???"
In synastry I think it's also this way and this is why they say that Pluto (or any other outer planet) has the upper hand. The Pluto person isn't consciously seeking out control over the venus person, but may do so without even being aware of it. The Venus person then may be very aware of it because it affects them very personally and very strongly. To pluto, it's just instinct, it's just life, it's "normal".
I don't think it's even a bad thing by default. It may only feel intense to the venus person. The pluto person may think, "What the heck is wrong with you? Why are you getting bent out of shape?" It may not be intentional. It's just that Venus may or may not like it.

A lot of how it operates depends on the natal contacts and other synastry contacts also.

That's just my two cents on how I view these types of connections.
Outer planet subconsciously pushes the inner planet person's buttons. They may be drawn to the inner planet person but at the same time not fully understand why without other contacts.

Edit: I've used the word "it" a lot.

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posted February 05, 2016 12:58 PM            

What if you had two very powerful and very conflicting things in astrology?
They can't both be true 100% of the time.
We have mars square Pluto which you'll read means lots of fighting and even physical violence. (And nessus/mars) Shoot. We're about as physically violent with each other as two doves. We don't even really fight at all. We went through a spell but still, physical abuse was never close.

posted February 05, 2016 01:03 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I don't think it's always the case. It depends on other things also.

What if you had two very powerful and very conflicting things in astrology?
They can't both be true 100% of the time.
We have mars square Pluto which you'll read means lots of fighting and even physical violence. (And nessus/mars) Shoot. We're about as physically violent with each other as two doves. We don't even really fight at all. We went through a spell but still, physical abuse was never close.

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posted February 05, 2016 01:50 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Here's my take, based completely off of my own personal experience.
Natally, my pluto is in first house conjunct asc. I think this is the strongest felt and noticeable pluto aspect that I have.

It's made several contacts in synastry over the years.
So with pluto (and probably other 'outer' planets) They are not personal planets so I don't think that they give personal power. They may offer power that works for us personally, but it's not the sort of thing that I believe that we just tap into voluntarily.
In fact, only since I've become aware that it was Pluto in my chart that caused certain traits about myself, I may not have even been aware of them. The things that it does I think are there, but subconsciously, almost like, "You mean not everyone else is this way???"
In synastry I think it's also this way and this is why they say that Pluto (or any other outer planet) has the upper hand. The Pluto person isn't consciously seeking out control over the venus person, but may do so without even being aware of it. The Venus person then may be very aware of it because it affects them very personally and very strongly. To pluto, it's just instinct, it's just life, it's "normal".
I don't think it's even a bad thing by default. It may only feel intense to the venus person. The pluto person may think, "What the heck is wrong with you? Why are you getting bent out of shape?" It may not be intentional. It's just that Venus may or may not like it.

A lot of how it operates depends on the natal contacts and other synastry contacts also.

That's just my two cents on how I view these types of connections.
Outer planet subconsciously pushes the inner planet person's buttons. They may be drawn to the inner planet person but at the same time not fully understand why without other contacts.

Edit: I've used the word "it" a lot.

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