posted February 11, 2016 10:01 AM            

My past, on the other hand, is almost the complete opposite. No, I don't sleep around or just date anyone, but I have had my fair share of heartbreaks, emotional drama, sex, etc. so my patience was thin with him to begin with, but now I am trying to show a little more compassion and persistence when it comes to our relationship so my question is, do you think this will be long-term? based on the charts? I know humans have free will and I will never base my decision-making off of an Astrology chart and/ or forum. I just would really appreciate some EXTENSIVE INSIGHT on this guy and the dynamics between us. I know many of you have seen my endless posts with all of my love hoopla. I appreciate anyone who is kind enough to respond and help me along my karmic journey of relationships! So thank you, in advance.

Anyway, the feelings I have for him are so complicated. One minute I'm madly in love and the next minute, I can't even look at him and I hate his guts. I love to see him putting in so much effort when it comes to our relationship, but I can't stand the fact that he's sooo inexperienced and childlike in the world of dating and relationships. It makes even the smallest thing a big deal because he's either putting his foot in his mouth or he just really doesn't have a clue on what to do in certain situations. He doesn't even show affection or romantic gestures. He makes everything so complicated and awkward. I'm probably starting to resent him, but him or the relationship (I haven't figured it out yet)has some underlying hold on me that won't allow me to walk away right away and when I try, I either come running back because of that HOLD or he just simply won't take no for answer. I want to say he looks desperate trying to win me over time and time again, but is it desperation (only because I know he hasn't had experience with other women so he might think this is the only one he'll ever get)or just a genuine interest in fighting for our relationship? I always have the upper hand and am in control.I resent his Pisces nature I guess you could say. He's the first overly-sensitive guy I have ever dated and I see why,Haha.I have mostly dated Scorpios and Taurus men with a few Capricorns. I was never attracted over sensitivity. Maybe it's my mars issues popping out in which they have been since this relationship started which is the only thing apparent between our charts.

We have Venus conjunct Pluto EXACT and Mars opposite Venus EXACT but no spark. Or maybe this is just the first who I can actually date without all that Moon-Uranus square drama,distance vs.closeness? All I know is, I barely want to kiss him anymore BUT I want this relationship to workout but maybe we just aren't meant to be. What do you guys think based off our compatibility? I'm on the fence about it all after thinking things through time and time again. I have noticed that his Uranus SEXTILES my Moon instead of SQUARES it like all of the guys I've dated before him because they were closer in age and I have moons square Uranus in my natal. He's 8 years older. I am 22. He is turning 31 next month.
Car.

NATALS; mine first

SYNASTRY (I am on the inside)

COMPOSITE

posted February 11, 2016 10:12 PM            

I'm not a professional astrologer so all that I'm writing here is based on the little I know allied to my insights. I think it's a huge mistake making judgments/assumptions about aspects in synastry without checking the natal charts first to see what each individual is up to, their potentials, issues because all that is gonna be projected onto the relationships. Sometimes we see harsh aspects in synastry but the relationship works because both individuals have natal charts that can handle those energies. The opposite happens as well.

Considering your natal chart, you have Sun, Jupiter and DC (what you lack consciously) in Scorpio and AC (what you consciously identify with) in Taurus so you're naturally drawn to men that irradiate scorpionic ou taurine energy. Just by taking a peek at your chart and noticing that Scorpio stellium in the 6th is possible to see that you're a plutonian person focused in perfectionism. You don't want things simply done: you want them flawless. In love and relationships is not that different since Venus controls your 6th house and is placed there with its ruler (Pluto). When things are not doing well on a routine basis, the same crap repeating day after day (6th house), you get emotionally affected and this explains your resentment (Scorpio) towards your bf. Since Scorpio is so prominent in your chart and Venus is in that sign, I was checking its rulers, Mars and Pluto. Both conjunct your DC so that transformative energy seems to be intensified through interactions. Maybe you jump too fast into/out of relationships (Mars in Aries) but in a more profound level it seems you have a hard time disconnecting from them (Pluto in Scorpio). It seems you're consciously attracted to or want a man that has direct and fiery nature (Mars in Aries above the horizon) but, on an unconscious level, you may be drawn to men and relationships in which power and control are subtle (Venus-Pluto in Scorpio below the horizon). I was checking the hard aspects between your personal and the social/outer planets in your chart and I'll tell you some of my impressions:
-Sun/Mars square Saturn: sometimes you don't feel comfortable expressing yourself, your wantings (Sun/Mars) and when you feel frustrated (Saturn) you can react with anger (Mars). You can feel insecure about making decisions (Saturn) but when you do, it's almost impossible to stop you (Mars in Aries is in Domicile, so stronger than Saturn in your chart).
-Sun/Mars conjunct Pluto: when you express and assert yourself (Sun/Mars) you do it in a very intense and passionate way (Pluto). There's no middle ground (Pluto) in terms of how you see the world/other people/yourself (Sun) and your attitudes (Mars) towards them. You can't just process things based on superficiality and you may over analyze yourself and others, you wanna get to the core of the matter (Pluto), understand the motivations behind your views and behavior. Since Pluto and Mars are both in Domicile in your chart, they are really powerful, determination is a keyword here for the good (achievements) or the bad (obsession, compulsion, stubbornness).
-Moon/Mercury/Venus conjunct Jupiter: generosity, emotional demonstrativeness, verbalization and warmth inside a relationship are very important to you. If you don't get those things you can withdraw and become emotionally distant.
-Moon square Uranus/Neptune: there's a tendency to idealize things and people (Neptune) and when the reality hits, if you don't have your emotional expectations or needs met (Moon), you get irritable, emotionally unstable, on the edge of a blow up (Uranus) and feeling confused and unsatisfied (Neptune).

I think your frustration inside that relationship is not really related to your bf but to your personality traits and the expectations you're projecting onto him. It's like you're expecting for him to fit a certain stereotype based on your personal needs/desires and also previous relationships you had with men that fit that role. That's why relationships are complex: sometimes adjustments can be done but other times adjustments mean violation of one's personality.

posted February 15, 2016 06:20 PM            

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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Hi, Yanmorg.

I'm not a professional astrologer so all that I'm writing here is based on the little I know allied to my insights. I think it's a huge mistake making judgments/assumptions about aspects in synastry without checking the natal charts first to see what each individual is up to, their potentials, issues because all that is gonna be projected onto the relationships. Sometimes we see harsh aspects in synastry but the relationship works because both individuals have natal charts that can handle those energies. The opposite happens as well..

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posted February 15, 2016 10:27 PM            

He will show his love maybe in more unique ways so pay attention and value his way of showing his love, also teach him but let him be him; don't try to mold him to a certain standard or way as that would just lead to disappointments for both.

posted February 26, 2016 04:32 PM            

Roseelima16, you hit the nail right on the head. Everything you've said rings true except my mars is in Sagittarius. Aries rules my 12th, with mars being in my 7th.

Anyway, I guess the bigger question is, what exactly is the karma between us? I've asked this question before and many lovely users on here have responded and gave some valuable insight, but I'm searching for more I guess.

I feel like our relationship is destined, but we're not destined to be together forever. We came in each other's lives at key moments on both of our parts. Both needing the other to help us grow in different ways.. am I answering my own question? Haha but I believe I came into his life to open up the world of women, dating, relationships, etc to him because before I came along, he was a 30 year-old virgin with little to no social skills and a depressing view on life. I need him to help me become more calm, lady-like, and submissive. Men and relationships have always felt like a battlefield to me and I believe he is the catalyst for my desire to change in this area of my life.

I'm just restless because I know we aren't meant to last forever and I'm definitely not in love with him, but my Scorpionic/ Saturian all or nothing nature is having a hard time letting go and just living in the moment.

posted February 26, 2016 05:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Hmm...... Could his Moon be Aquarius? Do you have the correct TOB?

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posted February 26, 2016 05:45 PM            

Hmmm...

And he is genuinely nice and sensitive? Not manipulative? Doesn't guilt-trip all the time?

The problem with this chart imo.... I mean I do have my issues with Pisces Moon. I consider this a very difficult Moon sign for men.

posted February 26, 2016 05:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
He has the same chart as my first love:
20/3/1985...

Highly manipulative... Highly!

Don't know what yours is like. But mine was f*cked three ways to the market.

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& I don't disagree with you one bit! A lot of the time he's so slick with it, I end up questioning myself.

It's a horrible situation because my gut instinct is telling me to leave, but that Venus-Pluto conjunction won't lwt up. I can't let goooooooo. Plus, His moon squaring my nodes exact makes things between our families just so warm, comfortable, perfect and I never had that with someone. I keep second guessing myself about this one.

I just can't put him in a category.

Plus, I view him as a "lame" or someone I would call that if I was still immature and in High School. Simply put, there's no spark between us. I find his features sexy and I see his potential, but in reality, he's so awkward and unexperienced that everything comes out wrong. Not to mention his Chiron and Saturn squares his moon so it's almost inpossible getting any type of emotional honesty from him. Frustrated isn't the word.

posted February 26, 2016 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Oh Boy...

Hmmm...

And he is genuinely nice and sensitive? Not manipulative? Doesn't guilt-trip all the time?

The problem with this chart imo.... I mean I do have my issues with Pisces Moon. I consider this a very difficult Moon sign for men.

But the biggest issue with me and my first love was the fact that his Venus is so poorly placed - both in Aries *and* retrograde.

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Oh Boy...

Hmmm...

And he is genuinely nice and sensitive? Not manipulative? Doesn't guilt-trip all the time?

The problem with this chart imo.... I mean I do have my issues with Pisces Moon. I consider this a very difficult Moon sign for men.

But the biggest issue with me and my first love was the fact that his Venus is so poorly placed - both in Aries *and* retrograde.

posted February 26, 2016 05:51 PM            

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& I don't disagree with you one bit! A lot of the time he's so slick with it, I end up questioning myself.

It's a horrible situation because my gut instinct is telling me to leave, but that Venus-Pluto conjunction won't lwt up. I can't let goooooooo. Plus, His moon squaring my nodes exact makes things between our families just so warm, comfortable, perfect and I never had that with someone. I keep second guessing myself about this one.

I just can't put him in a category.

Plus, I view him as a "lame" or someone I would call that if I was still immature and in High School. Simply put, there's no spark between us. I find his features sexy and I see his potential, but in reality, he's so awkward and unexperienced that everything comes out wrong. Not to mention his Chiron and Saturn squares his moon so it's almost inpossible getting any type of emotional honesty from him. Frustrated isn't the word.

When our karma is up in this lifetime, will the universe release us? I hope so.

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The things you are describing definitely sound frustrating.
But they still sound like straightforward problems.

My experience has been more like - he was an emotionally manipulative mastermind - and some of the other problems we were having were just "surface" - and kind of "made up"...

The real problems were much deeper and harder to pinpoint because he was so psychologically warped.
It was difficult to confront him as well. He was never someone to call a spade, a spade or be open.

posted February 26, 2016 05:54 PM            

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Acually, that's exactly what he does. Guilt trip. I view it as immature and unattractive. He turns me off day by day.

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Sigh..... yeah....

I've had this sort of experience with a few men with the Pisces Moon. My first love was definitely the worst though.
I wouldn't call him just immature though... because he is too much of a basket-case with too many issues... to be just 'immature'.
Maybe your guy is just immature though. I don't know.

posted February 26, 2016 05:57 PM            

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It's a horrible situation because my gut instinct is telling me to leave, but that Venus-Pluto conjunction won't lwt up. I can't let goooooooo.

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I understand. This is similar with what I had with my first love as well.

My Venus is in Taurus opposite Pluto (on my Nodes)... and this opposition was conjunct his Taurus Mars *opposite* his Pluto... It was on the same axis.

posted February 26, 2016 09:05 PM            

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Sigh..... yeah....

I've had this sort of experience with a few men with the Pisces Moon. My first love was definitely the worst though.
I wouldn't call him just immature though... because he is too much of a basket-case with too many issues... to be just 'immature'.
Maybe your guy is just immature though. I don't know.

Pisces Moon seems to have some mother issues that are projected at the partner a lot of the time. Do you know much about his relationship with his mother?
Does he seem to mention her a lot?
Is she usually having problems that he needs to deal with and help her with?

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Oh don't get me wrong, there's much more going on psychologically, under surface. He's just so good at portraying this innocent, victim role so when he's being manipulative or deceitful, it's hard to pinpoint.

posted March 03, 2016 12:08 PM            

Why is there no warmth or real intimacy between us?

posted March 03, 2016 02:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I think there is no warm and real intimacy between you because you`re not in love with him.

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Yeah, I have to face the facts.

I just hate that I'm so comfortable with him. It makes it THAT much harder to leave.

posted March 03, 2016 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
Should I stay with him even though I'm not in love?

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This is a question you have to answer for yourself.

For me, the answer wuold be HELL! NO!!!!

But different people need and want different things. Can you be content with being with someone you are not in love with?
Waht is the sense of calling it a relationship, when basic ingredients are missing? Why not keeping it a friendship then ?
And most of all, isn`t it a bit deceptive towards him? If he thinks you are in love (though he clearly feels the truth) and yet you aren`t?