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posted February 15, 2016 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His NN pisces@2.12 his 3rd house/my 5th house
His AC saggy@3.10

My Merc saggy@3.32 my 2nd/3rd house cusp
My Sun saggy@4.28
My Amor pisces@5.29

My Saturn leo@2.50
My Uranus scorp@4.44
My Mars gem@29.33

What is the missed step here? What are we working on here?

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posted February 15, 2016 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This person has not embraced his pisces NN at all!
Also his scorp Neptune/Venus/Moon are in his 12th and hes completely disconnected from them.
He acts out completely his saggy AC, like he seems to have no obvious tenderness, he holds back tears and tries so hard to stay hard but you can tell he isnt hard, hes terrified to show his depth of emotions and thoughts.

I've spent my entire life fighting to overcome the lack of empathy and harshness of my saggitarius placements and instead become the enlightened part of saggy.

He does naturally brings out a very tender side of me, a very patient, aware, part of me that i really like. He brings out a nurturing side of me that brings out the best in me, a me i want to be...im guessing thats my Amor on his NN.


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posted February 15, 2016 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Back!

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posted February 15, 2016 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Hyp!! ❤️❤️
I just popped back in for a sec! 😊 Ill answer a few questions just to make it even for my asking a question lol!

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posted February 15, 2016 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sag rising and my problem is that I don't hold back

I would say that the stellium in the 12th is why he holds back, his is probably passive in his communication style with mars there and with southnode in Virgo he is very critical of himself and others which probably leads to him holding back more, he is workaholic probably too.

My mom has southnode in Virgo and now that she is older she has embraced her northnode in Pisces which conjuncts my Moon; I taught her to love unconditionally. My goal for a long time was to get her to truly love me unconditionally and have her understand how that looks like and how that truly is what religion should be about since she is religious, I at least did help her a lot with that.

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posted February 15, 2016 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your moon is on your moms NN Hyp?

He doesn't hold back in day to day life, but his emotions he does...its like hes scared of them.
Im sorry i meant his scorp venus-moon-neptune are in his 12th....

His mars is in virgo, its exact on my moon, that conjunction falls in my 12th.
His Venus/Neptuns are on my NN

I have such a hard time dealing with his saggy AC, its so blunt and abrassive...lol

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posted February 15, 2016 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes my moon conjuncts her northnode by 1d, I pushed her to embrace her northnode over time.

That sounds promising, my valentine conjunct hubby's northnode and his psyche my northnode, northnode contacts seem to be lasting.

Oh his venus-moon-neptune are in his 12th in Scorpio, oh wow 'still waters run deep.' I imagine like you said he is unaware of his capacity to feel so intensely, this is somewhat hidden from himself and others but he is somewhat aware of it as well! and scared by it. I imagine over time once he trusts you this side will be expressed more but typically in private as this is a very vulnerable special side of him that can only come out in such settings.

Mr.Aqua has venus in the 12th and I think is hard for him to say 'I love you' well to top it off he has venus conjunct Saturn. When he falls he falls really deeply and saying 'I love you' makes it too real so he is reserved about his feelings and saying such things. He is not into public displays of affection but in private its different, I feel he showed he cared by cuddling after sex and his loyalty. He also has southnode in virgo.

I have to say that Southnode in Virgos are very picky eaters

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posted February 15, 2016 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
His NN pisces@2.12 his 3rd house/my 5th house
His AC saggy@3.10

My Merc saggy@3.32 my 2nd/3rd house cusp
My Sun saggy@4.28
My Amor pisces@5.29

My Saturn leo@2.50
My Uranus scorp@4.44
My Mars gem@29.33

What is the missed step here? What are we working on here?


You have some very nice nodal aspects there, this feels very promising...You also have amor conjunct his NN, Saturn inconjunct his NN, and Uranus and Mars trine and sextile his Nodes.

So your Sun and Mercury conjunct his AC and that all squares his nodes which are in the 3rd-9th house axis and pisces-virgo axis. Kind of perfect since you are a Sag (9th house role model) and have moon in virgo (3rd house role model). You are definitely very important to him, hang either as he gains your trust he will open up more.

You will be a role model for him balancing out the expression of his 3rd house and 9th house and finding a way to make those two work so he can see the bigger picture but also pay attention to the details and figure out a way to honor and express both skills in himself and how he interacts with the world daily. He has to find a way to not get lost in the details and excessive criticism but still pay attention to details and not go to the other extreme of only paying attention to the bigger picture, ignore warnings and be overly optimistic.

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posted February 15, 2016 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That makes sense...alot of sense! I already see some of what your saying, he will tell me that im he loves all these different things about me, like that im so clean, mild, respectful, i don't overreact about things....he likes that I seem to have so much control over my emotional reactions, like I really take the time to throughly understand something before I allow myself to emotionally react.

We have other things to...
His Sun/Uranus are on my AC/Pluto to....0-2 degree

My 12th house Moon virgo@18.32
His Mars virgo@19.21
His 12th house Moon scorp@15.14
His 12th house Venus scorp@20.50

His Venus scorp@20.50---Saturn taurus@21.53
My NN scorp@21.44-------SN taurus@21.44

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posted February 15, 2016 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Yes my moon conjuncts her northnode by 1d, I pushed her to embrace her northnode over time.

That sounds promising, my valentine conjunct hubby's northnode and his psyche my northnode, northnode contacts seem to be lasting.

Oh his venus-moon-neptune are in his 12th in Scorpio, oh wow 'still waters run deep.' I imagine like you said he is unaware of his capacity to feel so intensely, this is somewhat hidden from himself and others but he is somewhat aware of it as well! and scared by it. I imagine over time once he trusts you this side will be expressed more but typically in private as this is a very vulnerable special side of him that can only come out in such settings.

Mr.Aqua has venus in the 12th and I think is hard for him to say 'I love you' well to top it off he has venus conjunct Saturn. When he falls he falls really deeply and saying 'I love you' makes it too real so he is reserved about his feelings and saying such things. He is not into public displays of affection but in private its different, I feel he showed he cared by cuddling after sex and his loyalty. He also has southnode in virgo.

I have to say that Southnode in Virgos are very picky eaters


Still waters run deep, i believe that!!
Your Mr. Aqua sounds alot like this guy, fearful of vocalizing feelings because it makes them that much more real and intense, its like that will overwhelm them.

I never knew so much about Virgo SN....how hard they are on themselves, did you mention workaholic to?
Getting lost in details, not knowing how to he fits into life because he cant get a grasp on the big picture but then again when he tries to get into the big picture he feels overwhelmed and lost. Thats a balanced ive finally found, when i talk about these big picture things and relate them back to everyday life....he literally stares at me in amazement and asks "how do you do that? you make stuff that most ppl cant even fathom seem so easy...you make it make sense and seem so easy and effortless when you talk about it."

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posted February 15, 2016 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ awwwwwww that is soo cool Gabby.

I know from personal experience that when someone conjuncts your skipped step that person means A LOT to you!!!! so he is vulnerable to you so I hope it works out for his sake.

My skipped step is 'Mercury opposite Moon' and my ex AC conjuncts my Mercury and his Moon opposes my Mercury very tight and conjuncts and parallels my moon. When someone activates your skipped step it feels life changing having a 'before they met you and after they met you effect.'

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posted February 15, 2016 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo SN are picky eaters? I was blaming his virgo Mars! My virgo moon is bad about that to....its a bonding thing for us! Lol

I have valentine/eros/ic cap@7-10 his eros cap@10, his valentine cap@3

His Amor is on my DC....trine my Sun! 😊

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posted February 15, 2016 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^^ awwwwwww that is soo cool Gabby.

I know from personal experience that when someone conjuncts your skipped step that person means A LOT to you!!!! so he is vulnerable to you so I hope it works out for his sake.

My skipped step is 'Mercury opposite Moon' and my ex AC conjuncts my Mercury and his Moon opposes my Mercury very tight and conjuncts and parallels my moon. When someone activates your skipped step it feels life changing having a 'before they met you and after they met you effect.'


That makes me feel really good...i feel like there is something very important and strong between us. Thank you for your help!

What do you think it means that his venus opposed saturn sits on my NN/SN angle? Any thoughts? Considering that his Venus is in 12th AND Saturn is involved....thats got to be important dont you think?

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posted February 15, 2016 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That makes me feel really good...i feel like there is something very important amd strong between us. Thank you for your help!

What do you think it means that his venus opposed saturn sits on my NN/SN angle? Any thoughts? Considering that his Venus is in 12th AND Saturn is involved....thats got to be important dont you think?


I looooove it! that is very nice. He is clearly a soulmate, you have a lot of indicators of this with the nodes so active. So saturn on your southnode should create a lot of loyalty between the two and an instant bond with venus-northnode this bond is meant to grow into a romantic lasting relationship.

I am so happy for you!. How long have you two been dating now?

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posted February 15, 2016 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He, like you would have a double missed step...his AC/DC.

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posted February 15, 2016 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I looooove it! that is very nice. He is clearly a soulmate, you have a lot of indicators of this with the nodes so active. So saturn on your southnode should create a lot of loyalty between the two and an instant bond with venus-northnode this bond is meant to grow into a romantic lasting relationship.

I am so happy for you!. How long have you two been dating now?


Our first date was the end of sept, the day of the blood moon eclipse that fell on my AC/Pluto and his Sun/Uranus.
But we first started talking early September right after venus went direct, so 5-6 months.


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posted February 15, 2016 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Our first date was the end of sept, the day of the blood moon eclipse that fell on my AC/Pluto and his Sun/Uranus.
But we first started talking early September right after venus went direct, so 5-6 months.


That is soo romantic! so at some point next month will be 6 months. Congrats! That is huge and it sounds like you are happy. You guys are going at a good pace, I feel this is a good indicator it will be lasting. Libras are a little big slow to commit but once they commit its for real and they will fight for the relationship. The fact you have made it this long with him I feel means he is committed and invested already. He is a good catch.

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Gabby I totally understand where your coming from theres a man that I've told you before is very Plutonian and has a lot of scopeio but acts like a huge gemini/saggitarius he's very mutable and fiery and this comes out very strongly Being his scorpio placement siting in his 9th house him an aqua ascendant uranus in cap in the 11th house and this does show. Im sorry about how you feel about this man it can be frustrating.

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posted February 15, 2016 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This person has not embraced his pisces NN at all!
Also his scorp Neptune/Venus/Moon are in his 12th and hes completely disconnected from them.
He acts out completely his saggy AC, like he seems to have no obvious tenderness, he holds back tears and tries so hard to stay hard but you can tell he isnt hard, hes terrified to show his depth of emotions and thoughts.

I've spent my entire life fighting to overcome the lack of empathy and harshness of my saggitarius placements and instead become the enlightened part of saggy.

He does naturally brings out a very tender side of me, a very patient, aware, part of me that i really like. He brings out a nurturing side of me that brings out the best in me, a me i want to be...im guessing thats my Amor on his NN.


Amor on his NN means you are teaching him about unconditional love! funny I mentioned earlier my Moon on my mom's northnode and how I taught her that.

"I've spent my entire life fighting to overcome the lack of empathy and harshness of my saggitarius placements and instead become the enlightened part of saggy."

^ Good for you, I am still working on that but Uranus conjuncting my Jupiter makes it extra challenging to hold back.

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posted February 15, 2016 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Amor on his NN means you are teaching him about unconditional love! funny I mentioned earlier my Moon on my mom's northnode and how I taught her that.

"I've spent my entire life fighting to overcome the lack of empathy and harshness of my saggitarius placements and instead become the enlightened part of saggy."

^ Good for you, I am still working on that but Uranus conjuncting my Jupiter makes it extra challenging to hold back.


I think i got extra lucky with overcoming that challenge with my saturn almost exact trining both my saggy merc/sun and having neptune conjunct my sun/merc. Someone decided to make it a natural process for me if i just focused on it...my asteroid karma is tightly sextile both my saturn and sun, so thats helpful, whew!

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posted February 15, 2016 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That is soo romantic! so at some point next month will be 6 months. Congrats! That is huge and it sounds like you are happy. You guys are going at a good pace, I feel this is a good indicator it will be lasting. Libras are a little big slow to commit but once they commit its for real and they will fight for the relationship. The fact you have made it this long with him I feel means he is committed and invested already. He is a good catch.

It feels like it will be a very slow process, like youve got to sneak in through the back door and bust down many walls before anything stable can attained.

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Gabby I totally understand where your coming from theres a man that I've told you before is very Plutonian and has a lot of scopeio but acts like a huge gemini/saggitarius he's very mutable and fiery and this comes out very strongly Being his scorpio placement siting in his 9th house him an aqua ascendant uranus in cap in the 11th house and this does show. Im sorry about how you feel about this man it can be frustrating.


Thank you Angel!!
Uranus is so frustrating, i often wonder how much issues are created from the fact that his Uranus is conjunct his Sun on my AC/Pluto...all very tight. Thats quite a power struggle there! Pluto up against Uranus....sitting on critical points in both our charts...all this opposes my Jupiter. We do have battles over sprituality n things like that, lol!! Weve got to points where ive said, "we need to stop talking now, your making me mad" lol

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posted February 15, 2016 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libras are very indecisive but they are very much relationship people even if their sun conjuncts uranus that just means they value friendship and a partnership of equals a lot in a relationship but having uranus there will make him think he doesn't want a relationship yet he is totally built for it and is happier in one.

So bc of their indecisiveness giving them a deadline can help, it did with my libra who had uranus-mars-dc square venus and sun in libra. He kept saying "he didn't want to lose me' and we were very obviously boyfriend and girlfriend but he had difficulty with the idea of commitment, labels, getting married, moving in etc yet we hanged out so much that moving in happened gradually very naturally.

I will say that libra uranians don't care about the marriage license at all but they are loyal and my husband and I never got one and here we are 9 years later; their idea of getting married will be unconventional probably involving just the two of you or something small but their commitment is real.

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Libras are very indecisive but they are very much relationship people even if their sun conjuncts uranus that just means they value friendship and a partnership of equals a lot in a relationship but having uranus there will make him think he doesn't want a relationship yet he is totally built for it and is happier in one.

So bc of their indecisiveness giving them a deadline can help, it did with my libra who had uranus-mars-dc square venus and sun in libra. He kept saying "he didn't want to lose me' and we were very obviously boyfriend and girlfriend but he had difficulty with the idea of commitment, labels, getting married, moving in etc yet we hanged out so much that moving in happened gradually very naturally.

I will say that libra uranians don't care about the marriage license at all but they are loyal and my husband and I never got one and here we aboysre 9 years later; their idea of getting married will be unconventional probably involving just the two of you or something small but their commitment is real.


That makes so much sense! We went out on a few dates, next thing i now hes not letting me leave for days straight...id stay for 3-4 day a week with him but we were not labeled as anything but yet i was being introduced to all his friends as his girl and have been for months.
Then just recently he went on a boys trip out of the country and we got into a mild fight right begore this due to his insensitivity, saggy loudmouth behavioral stuff, so we were not talking.
While he was away his friend posted a pic of him with a girl with her arm around him. He looked very uncomfortable and i could tell he was not doing anything but still i unfriended him and didnt speak to him for weeks, i started talking to other guys though. I just starting to talk to him again. Hes tried to explain he didnt do anything his friends found some girls to dance with and one was trying to get him to dance but he didn't. I said i didnt care n wouldnt talk about it.

So we will see how things go from here.....

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Im happy to know the commitment is real when they get there!! That means alot to me.

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