posted February 16, 2016 01:45 AM            

I’ve been thinking about an interesting topic recently. What happens when you have a sign with two rulers on a relationship house cusp, especially the Dsc…

In my chart I’ve got Aries on the 5th, Gemini on the 7th, and Cancer on the 8th. These signs all have only ONE ruler and so everything is very straightforward when it comes analyzing what I look for in relationships. However, some people have the signs Scorpio, Aquarius, or Pisces on the relationship house cusps. The means two rulers. One introverted ruler and one extroverted ruler...

Scorpio is ruled by Mars (extroverted ruler) and Pluto (introverted ruler).

Aquarius is ruled by Uranus (extroverted ruler) and Saturn (introverted ruler).

Pisces is rules by Jupiter (extroverted ruler) and Neptune (introverted ruler).

So I’d love some feed back from those who have any of these signs on the 5th, 7th or 8th houses (especially the Dsc).

Do you feel the influence of both planets? Are you attracted to the sign or sign qualities of both rulers? Do you feel the houses of both planets have an impact?

Sometimes I wonder if women would have stronger response to the extroverted ruler because this is a masculine planet, while men might have a stronger reaction to the introverted planet because this is the more feminine influence. Or maybe which is stronger totally depends on how each person’s natal chart is set up, like which one is more active in the birth chart for example.

In my case, I’ve got Aqua on the 3rd house cusp. I feel my Uranus in Scorpio is most dominant in terms of my interests (psychological astrology, relationship dynamics, mysterious topics). However my Saturn in Virgo has an influence two. I’m quite interested in alternative health and love to study different therapies and herbal remedies etc.

My 3rd house is my secondary Dsc because Gemini is on the Dsc (Gemini rules 3rd house symbolically). I feel I’m more attracted to Scorpio planets then Virgo planets in others. Maybe that’s cause I’m a women and I’m responding more to Uranus? However, I’ve noticed a slight attraction to Virgo energy to sometimes too (not as much as Scorpio), and a weird sort of admiration for women who have strong Virgo (Saturn in Virgo being the more introverted planet). It could also be that the modern ruler is just more dominant, and the ancient ruler has a lesser role.

posted February 16, 2016 02:03 AM            

My 10th house is Aries. My boyfriend has Mars in Aries and the ex has Jupiter in Aries. My 11th is Taurus. Boyfriend has Jupiter in Taurus and ex has his sun and Mercury in the 2nd house. He didn't really seem very Taurean/Venusian to me though.

I guess I gravitate towards Uranian energy a lot more than Saturnian. I like both energies. I think I need more Saturn in my life though.

posted February 16, 2016 03:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Readytochill:
I have Aquarius on my DSC and 8th. Two relationships stick out in this case. Currently, I have a Cap sun conjunct Uranus boyfriend. An ex that I dated for many many years is a Aqua sun with Cap ASC.

My 10th house is Aries. My boyfriend has Mars in Aries and the ex has Jupiter in Aries. My 11th is Taurus. Boyfriend has Jupiter in Taurus and ex has his sun and Mercury in the 2nd house. He didn't really seem very Taurean/Venusian to me though.

I guess I gravitate towards Uranian energy a lot more than Saturnian. I like both energies. I think I need more Saturn in my life though.

I think you brought out a good point with the 2 rulers.

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posted February 16, 2016 06:36 AM            

If I paired up with someone, it's 99% certain it would be a foreigner. The thing is I have Jupiter, Sagittarius and 9th house stuff in my chart.

Also, Neptune alone could go this path. After all the nationality doesn't matter to him, it's just a human invention.

Both energies can be appealing if we're talking about the positive manifestation. Neptune is probably more tempting to me though.

posted February 16, 2016 08:07 AM            

An ex has Sagittarius Asc and Scorpio Sun.
While my current romantic interest has Sagittarius Asc and Aquarius Sun. My Mars conjunct his Saturn.
My Saturn conjunct his MC.

posted February 16, 2016 09:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
I was wondering what signs you have Saturn and Uranus in. Do you gravitate towards one more then the other? Or are they in the same sign.

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They're both in Capricorn. I've been encountering lots of Cap Suns for the past few years. Right now, transit Saturn is in my 5th conjunct my vertex. I've never really liked Cap energy but it's been teaching me a lot. I appreciate Saturn so much and wish I learned its lessons at a young age. I'm still young lol but I wish there was structure and responsibility in my kid years.

posted February 16, 2016 01:18 PM            

I have scorpio in 7th. Ruler mars in 2nd and pluto in 5th. while important partners have had strong pluto, it is not necesarily. I tend to become more the plutonian one and also the martian one. I would not be particularly attracted to mars-oriented or plutonian guys to be honest..

posted February 16, 2016 03:04 PM            

My idea of home is living in the mountains at a close enough proximity to a city and were I still have access to wifi but can feel at one with nature and the universe and far away from my family so I can miss them.

posted February 16, 2016 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Neptune and jupiter rule my IC and jupiter is my chart ruler and falls in my 12th conjunct uranus and neptune is my most dominant planet and falls in my 1st.

My idea of home is living in the mountains at a close enough proximity to a city and were I still have access to wifi but can feel at one with nature and the universe and far away from my family so I can miss them.

My idea of home is unconventional and remote...

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posted February 16, 2016 05:10 PM            

Going by Jupiter ruling Pisces then, I can honestly say the amount of Sagittarians I've dated has been statistically off the charts when compared to any other sign. I only have my IC in Sag.
Jupiter is also tightly conjunct Chiron + Ceres.. all in Cancer. Cancer men do like me, but the feeling is often not mutual. However, this is the 10th house, and what I am really attracted to... are Capricorns that are emotionally healthy.

If we were to analyze the 5th house of Aquarius with the ancient ruler being Saturn, we'd have my natal Saturn in the 4th in its natural sign of.. Capricorn! So the Cancer-Capricorn must play a huge role in my romantic life. Admittedly it does. Funnily enough, the guy I lost my virginity to had a Capricorn Sun and a Cancer Moon.
My Saturn makes a 0 degree trine with my Sun, and a 3 degree trine with my ASC. I come across as a really "whole" person to a lot of people. A Capricorn Sun/Moon once thought so. Yet, that's also what I seek in others. Saturn being in this configuration as the "ruler of my 5th" now makes a lot of sense. I don't believe in dating around just for the hell of it - I like to date with a purpose. I like to do date knowing things will stand the test of time, that my future self will thank me for this partner. I'm not one to d*ck around "having fun" with unsuitable people because I find it to be time wasted.

If we were to go by modern rulers.. I definitely don't date Uranian men. I don't like instability in the slightest. The Sagittarius men I've dated have all had their stuff together in life and didn't shy away from commitment. So I think that's the Jupiter (7th) and Saturn (5th) roles at play versus as opposed to the Neptune (7th) and Uranus (5th) trope.

Funnily enough when I was younger wayward musicians/artists/dreamers/etc were always drawn to me and I was DISMAYED by this lol, I just don't find that energy suitable to my needs in the slightest.

Scorpio on the cusp of my 3rd.. overwhelmingly, I am extremely fond of people with an Aries (Martian) Mercury as opposed to a Scorpio Mercury. I do have my own natal Mercury in the 8th, and yet I love how quick talking, no-bullsh*t , straight to the point a martian Mercury communicates, as opposed to everything left unsaid in the subtext by a plutonic Mercury. In fact.. I'd much rather have a conversation with someone that has Mercury conjunct Mars instead of someone with Mercury conjunct Pluto. It's the difference between someone having a strong opinion that can be swayed versus someone that believes everything they state is the objective truth (in my experience)

PISCES - RULER OF DSC
Jupiter | H10 | Cancer | Extroverted
Neptune | H4 | Capricorn | Introverted

AQUARIUS - RULER OF 5TH
Uranus | H4 | Capricorn | Extroverted
Saturn | H4 | Capricorn | Introverted

posted February 16, 2016 08:08 PM            

Athenaia, interesting how you feel your Capricorn Saturn, co-ruling Aquarius, is so influential in you taste.

posted February 17, 2016 05:06 AM            

Neptune 0'20 Sag
Jupiter 26'39 Scorpio
(IC 25 Scorp)

posted February 17, 2016 06:54 AM            

My type is "older than me and foreign actor/singer"

posted February 17, 2016 09:03 AM            

11th and 12th house Scorpio:
Pluto in Libra conjunct MC (and square Venus)
Mars in Sagittarius in 12th conjunct ASC, Neptune and NN, square Jupiter (and sextile Pluto)

3rd house:
Aquarius on the cusp
Uranus in Scorpio on 11th house cusp - peregrine
Saturn r in Cancer in 8th - quinkunx Moon, trine Jupiter, widely conjunct Vertex (4 degrees)

Pisces intercepted in 3rd house
Neptune in Sag conjunct ASC, Mars and NN, sextile Pluto, square Jupiter in 3rd

posted February 18, 2016 11:18 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
@Lotis White,
I know I'm getting a little off topic here, so I won't bother you with many questions, but do you think this same outcome that you mentioned (by having two rulers on the cusp of love houses) can be caused if you have many different planets in a love house, too? Or is this something obvious that I just don't happen to know?
Thanks in advance!

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Any planets in the 7th are said to describe your romantic taste, and experience of relationships. If you just have one planet, the influence of that one planet is likely to be dominating. If you have a stellium there, you have varied taste and quite a few different kinds of people could be your 'type' in different ways.

posted February 20, 2016 09:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Any planets in the 7th are said to describe your romantic taste, and experience of relationships. If you just have one planet, the influence of that one planet is likely to be dominating. If you have a stellium there, you have varied taste and quite a few different kinds of people could be your 'type' in different ways.

If both the rules of Scorpio, Pisces, and Aquarius have influence I suppose this could be somewhat similar to having two planets in the 7th house. But only in the sense that it adds to the variety of people that could fit your 'type'. Planets in the 7th house also show that entire Facets of our personality will be invested in relating, as well as describing our taste.

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Thank you very much Lotis White for your answer, I really have learned a lot through your posts about houses, rulers and vertex!

posted February 20, 2016 08:05 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
I have the sense the planets in houses are more powerful than the sign of the house itself. that is my experience anyway with neptune in scorpio in 7th.

my type always are neptunian even if my chart is not neptunian at all. i do not feel attracted to martians or plutonian men..

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This is a very valid point. Planets are like concentrated versions of the signs the rule. Saturn is like Capricorn concentrate. Jupiter is like Sagittarius concentrate.

posted February 20, 2016 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Thank you very much Lotis White for your answer, I really have learned a lot through your posts about houses, rulers and vertex!

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