posted February 18, 2016 02:14 PM            

Here are some aspects between us that catch my eye:

Her Mars conjunct my Ascendant
Her Mars trine my Moon
My Mars trine her Moon
My Mars trine her Mars
My Moon trine her Moon
Her Juno conjunct my Ascendant (also trine my Moon and Mars)
My Juno opposite her Sun (and conjunct her Lilith)

Also, concerning Sun/Moon midpoints:

Her Sun/Moon midpoint conjunct my Venus, Mercury, and Pluto

My Sun/Moon midpoint conjunct her Vesta

Negative aspects:

Her Saturn square my Venus
Her Saturn square my Mercury
Her Venus square my Ascendant

What do you think???!!!!

posted February 18, 2016 03:33 PM            

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posted February 18, 2016 04:46 PM            

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posted February 18, 2016 09:37 PM            

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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Hi CosmicPhuz,

The aspects you mentioned indicate there's mutual physical attraction going on. But if you're gonna bang, well.. that's another story, lol! You have a double-whammy Moon-Mars (emotional and sexual attraction together). Her Mars and Venus hitting your AC: your physical appearance and the way you present yourself represent what she finds attractive and beautiful in a man. Moon trine Moon shows emotional compatibility. The Sun-Moon midpoint conjunct Venus also speaks for attraction and compatibility. Why don't you post your synastry? It's better to have a clue of the whole dynamic. Add the Vertex to the charts cause Vertex connections speak for sudden irresistible attractions.

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Thanks roseelima, so you're saying there's a chance?

The aspects I listed above are most of the tight ones. More tight ones:

Her mercury sextiles my mars and moon
Her venus sextiles my neptune
My lilith and vesta conjunct her mercury
My vertex conjunct her pluto exactly
Her saturn trines my ascendant
My saturn trines her sun
My ascendant square her ascendant
My venus trine her ascendant
My north node squares her north node exactly
My chiron conjunct her south node exactly
Her chiron square my venus

Other aspects (bigger orbs) - don't know if they count:

My Sun sextiles her Sun - 8 orb (I'm Libra, she's Leo)
Her Venus sextiles my Sun - 8 orb
My Sun (late Libra) squares her Moon (early Aqua) - 8 orb
My Venus and Mercury square her Mercury - 6 orb (I'm a bit worried about that, but surprisingly no communication problems yet)
My Pluto sextile her Venus - 4 orb
My Juno trine her Juno - 12 orb
My Venus conjunct her Pluto - 10 orb

posted February 18, 2016 09:57 PM            

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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Thanks roseelima, so you're saying there's a chance?

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posted February 19, 2016 12:01 AM            

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Omg Trex Tuesdays!!! I love their videos, they are so freaking hilarious!

posted February 19, 2016 08:04 AM            

Hmmm now I'm thinking. Mars in 8 happens fast, but maybe too fast...overlays in 5 and 7 have brought long term relationships. Overlays in those houses have brought strong sexual attraction when there was a combination of either of the luminaries and Mars or Venus...

You've got Moon/Mars. Nyce. I've had a man's Mars on my Asc. The best! Until I decided he was a Cancer Mars and not a Leo Mars mwa mwa mwaaa...

Another good one! My Mercury in his 8th house. I felt like such a freak!

How close are those Saturn squares, and the Venus/Asc square?

posted February 19, 2016 12:30 PM            

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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Well, I think synastry shows potentials, and those aspects you described are related to sexual attraction. But if you're going to invite her or if she's gonna invite you for some sex session is more aligned to Predictive Astrology. When I asked you about posting the synastry it was because the house overlays, the rulerships and the midpoints can be easily seen in the bi-wheel chart and they show the dynamic of the interaction between you two. If you want a more direct answer, maybe you should create a chart for an event asking your question about it and posting it in the Horary Astrology section of the website.

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Ah I see what you mean. I wasnt really thinking of predictive/event astrology but you raise a good point (I know this woman makes my point raised...). I guess I was just wondering if there was any attraction based on our synastry - which you answered. I don't have a photobucket account, but I'll set one up and start a new thread on it. I appreciate your input regardless, roseelima.

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Another thing I was thinking; sexual attraction is such a raw and basic urge. The things that excite each of us will vary, and maybe according to our very raw and basic needs, which maybe can be seen in the natal chart. You have your Mars and Moons tangled up in all kinds of play with those trines...and then I look at the other aspects and there are quite a few nice soft (but completely present) aspects. Maybe you just need this. Lol. I'm thinking about it and maybe I need that too.

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Thanks venustinkerbell. Her Saturn squares my Venus and Mercury by a 3 degree orb. However, my Venus and Mercury are also conjunct her Sun/Moon midpoint exactly. Her Venus squares my Ascendant by a 9 degree orb (which isn't that tight, I should have mentioned that earlier). Her Mars is conjunct my Ascendant by a 3 degree orb.

My Sun, Mercury, and Venus fall in her 8th house - while my Moon and Mars fall in her 7th house. Her north node falls in my 7th house.

We're both quite Plutonian. Myself, I have Venus/Mercury/Pluto conjunct in Scorpio (in 6th house, however). Her, she's got Pluto square Sun, and Venus square Mars. Her Sun and Venus are in 6th house.

posted February 20, 2016 01:54 AM            

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what's Mercury in 8th like? I've got this 2 way with someone.

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I need to add that his Mars was right there in his 8th house probably egging me on, in sexual matters, and also influencing the nature of his 8th house.

It was common for him to stop in the middle of a conversation and exclaim "what is wrrrong with you".

I seriously derived great pleasure from this kind of reaction from him. I just knew he'd been totally caught off guard by something I said or did, and he seemed to want to deal with being stunned by having sex My self expression excited him. I enjoy exciting men with my physical nature.. its so much more fun to have a man react sexually to something I've said or my way of thinking. We're not talking about intellectual compatibility. We're talking about freaky mind booty shaking. Completely awesome. Ha ha. Edit. tmi. If you saw it good for youz.

Ooh ooh! eta! Something about this placement and sharing humor... If you think about it, the most successful comedians make jokes about common or unfortunate realities. I really got off on freaking him out with my jokes. I did a lot of mock-stalking things, and he fake attacked me in the night a million times. I liked to see his look of confusion when I climbed the ladder outside his bedroom window and watched him sleeping at 6am. He really enjoyed making me cry from the stress and fear of having him jump up out of a complete strangers truck bed I was parked next to at the grocery store. This placement brings about strange tastes in extra curricular activities and entertainment

Maybe as time goes by the issues addressed by this overlay are deeper and more supportive of growth.

posted February 20, 2016 03:12 AM            

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venus2tinkerbell,

Can you elaborate a bit on Mars in the 8th synastry? If it happens too fast, does the sexual attraction fizzle out soon? And if you're comfortable, can you describe what 8th house physical intimacy is like?

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Ok I looked back at some synastry charts of mine. Both of the men I married put their Mars in my 8th house, now I don't know if its because Aqua Mars peeps are total freaks (which they are) or if it's just their Mars in my 8th house, but both of those men never gave up trying to have a sexual relationship with me, even years after breaking up..When harmony, and good communication failed and fell away, their desire to have sex with me or possess me never did.

Both men had exclusive access to the secrets of my desires. I never told them. They just had me figured out. They used that knowledge differently, but they both knew how to "handle" me.

That's long term Mars in 8.

Short term. My Mars was in his 8th house. I think this overlay is so powerful because Mars is happy here (consider for a moment the 8th house as the house of Scorpio, and Mars is the co-ruler of Scorpio *vedic*). My Mars in his 8th house, everything I did sexually was right. Everything drove him nuts. Lol! Like he was freaking out! I mean he just loved everything and was crazy expressive about it, and that opened me up more and more. Full on open sex expression. Something as simple as turning my head was in perfect sync and harmony with his movements. His enjoyment and our harmony in action and desire just made that very bad relationship bring about some of the best sex I've ever had.

Another one where Mars was in my 8th house. His erections weren't great. Still, sex with him was better than with a human bull I'd been with once. It was the 'way' he wanted to 'do me' that did it for me.

So it's not so much that things fizzle out. If anything; when everything else fizzles out Mars in 8 might still be goin at it... The problem; the sexual intensity can lead you to the wrong partnerships sometimes..

posted February 20, 2016 03:41 PM            

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posted February 20, 2016 09:53 PM            

Saturn is a heavy planet in synastry. I can't remember a Saturn square Venus situation, but I did have Saturn conjunct Venus. I was Saturn. He looked up to me in a way. He wanted to follow my lead in structuring the relationship, but I just couldn't trust him. I was convinced he would let me down and he did...but maybe that's because I kind of brought it to life with my thoughts. The Saturn person in synastry has to be really mature and self aware.

Saturn square Mercury. I'm Saturn again.. I wouldn't say Saturn/Mercury broke us, but when we (I) were ready to call it quits, and have our final year long battle, there was no mercy in that square, especially coming from my side.

Everything that can go wrong between two people trying to communicate goes wrong. I felt Mercury was careless and irresponsible. Mercury's thoughts seemed to have no rhyme or reason or foundation or sense of direction. Conversations became exhausting for me, and I could tolerate less and less time with him. He accused me of being harsh, impatient, and of verbally castrating him.

When I interact with him today, I understand that we can both learn a lot from each other, but I take the burden of responsibility as Saturn to be patient while he's figuring things out. Saturn might know better than Mercury, but here in this square Saturn has great potential to be hurtful, condescending, and a hindrance to closeness and intimacy...

It's harder with him than with most people, but I try to always be conscious of my goal to help him grow and learn. He annoys me so much sometimes and he's such an arrogant student I'd like to punish and humiliate him rather than help him, but I do see what my role and responsibility is as Saturn. Mercury can benefit from Saturn if Saturn can keep it together, and if Saturn can keep it together then Saturn has also grown and matured.

I'm glad the Venus/Asc square is wide. It doesn't sound like a good one. I tend to think planet to Asc aspects in synastry are more immediate (like first impressions) than planet to DC aspects...but that may be because I have two other planets on my Asc...which brings me to this point. Your synastry shows a significant interaction; with Juno, Chiron, and the Nodes involved. They have always brought life changing experiences to me. Plus you're both Plutonian. Plus that Saturn is going to feel both binding and heavy and difficult. In addition to that she sounds complex, and the complexity of your synastry might mirror her own chart a bit. The Saturn synastry suggests this, and for me Chiron/SN confirms it. You might challenge her to let go and have a good time while Saturn is cautioning her that she may not be able to trust you (I also think that she might want something serious with Saturn in any aspect to Venus) ... Not to mention all those planets you put in her 8th house. You're definitely in the position to do some serious uncovering, exploring, delving and yes, penetrating...you follow..

She wants to bang you for sure. The issue is your synastry suggests seriousness. One or both of might want it.. And she might find it hard to take you seriously.

I'd proceed with caution. Get clear on what you want before pursuing her. Chiron, Nodes, Saturn, and the 8th house. Someone can really get hurt without fore thought...

Let me see if I want to add anything else

Midpoints? I don't know anything about them yet..

ETA: I'm sure I don't have to say this, but I will. I'm just singling out my experiences with particular aspects. With the synastry chart and composite, a real astrologer could paint a better picture.

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posted February 21, 2016 01:30 PM            

It's scary how a lot of what you said seems to feel true in my interactions with her. She was definitely mistrustful and skeptical in the beginning (could be the venus square asc, combined with the saturn squares?). Still is to an extent - how do I get her to trust me and let her guard down? If she wanted something serious, I'd be happy to make it serious with her.

I don't know why, but I have a feeling I hurt her in a past life. Don't have a logical reason for that though...

And you're definitely right about her chart being complex. She's got Pluto Square Sun, Saturn Opposite Sun/Mercury, Venus Square Mars. Oh yea, and her Saturn is retrograde as well.

posted February 21, 2016 10:15 PM            

What if your idea of picking up your Mercury game in order to please Saturn actually stifles a Moon/Mars aspect and interaction that could bring you two closer together? Idk...

My main thought is both people are responsible for their behavior in a square, and both people have to work through it openly and consciously. Let the square live and take form, and be mindful. There's a moment in the middle of a fight when you've blown off all the steam you really need to. You look at the situation and know you can bring some reason into the situation. Most of the time, just as you're thinking you can turn things around, the other person does or says something stupid to fuel your fire. It's so much easier at this point to dig your heels in and fight back, especially if you have the advantage in the fight...but that's not how you work through a square. You stop. Take a look at yourself and your partner (and with astrology you have an advantage), understand their disability and weakness in the moment, understand your own, and address the square rather than the issue or situation.

So don't change. If she gives the real you a chance, be willing to learn and grow.

Chiron/SN. It's interesting you say you feel like you've hurt her in the past. When Chiron touched my SN my feeling was he understood how to soothe my past hurts and calm my fears. I felt like he was giving me a big warm bear hug all the time. I truly remembered all my energy and vibrancy as a young girl. It was like the first time I fell in love. Lol. And when we broke up it was like the first heartbreak I'd ever experienced. I've had more karma heavy relationships drag me to hell and back, but your first love is like your first breath of life, and your first heartbreak informs you of your own mortality.

I don't think we broke up because of Chiron though. We had really difficult synastry overall.

I think sex early in your relationship is not a good idea. Those good aspects in your synastry need to live independent of sex, so that when you face the challenges, they (the good aspects) don't get labeled and disregarded as sexual attraction that blinded the both of you to your incompatibility.

Lol. Sometimes when you know the love and sex have that much potential, you wait...my mom's been telling me this for years. I had to figure it out for myself. I'm more of field scientist, I tell her.

posted February 21, 2016 10:37 PM            

Mercury square...I just had the Merc that is square my Saturn say the most effed up $hit. The kind of thing that makes my type walk away...but I understand that a big part of the problem is my own insecurities because I don't actually doubt his intentions.

posted February 21, 2016 11:07 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
venus2tinkerbell,

As for Mars in Aquarius being freaks, you mean sexually right? I always thought that was a myth but had no experience with such Mars yet. Is it true they don't last long in bed and no prelude etc? Did not think I will ever be asking questions like That on astrological forum!

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Sexually Aqua is a lot like Virgo. They're just so amazing in terms of execution. Virgo researches to perfection, and Aqua is the great explorer. That's why I call them freaks (in the sheets). There is a difference between say an 8th house Mars and a 3rd house Mars, and a 2nd house Mars and 9th house Mars (in a man's natal). I just assume most women would go for an 8th house Mars, but that may not be so. I have a lot of 8th house and 2nd house themes in my life/chart. I like the energy of Mars in those houses.

I've never heard about the erectile dysfunction issue. I've experienced it with a Mars square Neptune, and an unaspected Mars..

About them skipping over foreplay..lol. I'm gonna have to say yeah. But Aqua Mars is the easiest Mars to work with sexually (because I've been with every Mars...twice, lol- not) They love to learn, please, and explore. Tell them where to kiss you and how, and they're the least likely to make things awkward. They'll do it and after a while they'll do it like they invented it, ha ha and then they'll show you variations!

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