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mir
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posted February 23, 2016 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW!


This is completely new to me but as we now also have that option on PD to calculate the DAILY age harmonics, it's interesting to take a deeper look at what to find in those during certain events. Ofcourse inspired by the info I found on Mar's thread about it. Didn't want to derail that one and ofcourse, this is definitely worth a new thread.

- For the AGE harmonic I simply go to file -> harmonic to put my current age in the box.
- For the DAILY age harmonic I go to horoscope -> extra -> age harmonic and then put the date of the event in there.


So.. can I assume the below is THE way to look at it? (compare the Age harmonic to the Daily-age harmonic and natals);


During our 1st meeting;

His Age harmonic;
- Venus: 25'04 Aqua
- NN: 19'10 Aqua

His DAILY Age harmonic;
- NN: 24'42 Aqua
- Venus: 19'30 Leo

(my natal Mars 19'31 Aqua)

So ^ he got a DW Venus/Node conjunction that day, one to the SN and one to the NN.


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My Age harmonic;
- Venus: 24'11 Scorpio

My DAILY Age harmonic;
- Sun: 23'31 Scorpio

(my natal IC 24'49 Scorpio)


Just the most ^ striking ones at first glance.


There were NO transits relating to the above but this on itself was already amazing enough I thought.


Ceri what do you think.. would it be too far-fetched to also look at the (DAILY-)age harmonic COMPOSITES?

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posted February 24, 2016 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cannot believe I never looked up our dailies for the first meeting!
gotta do that in a bit.


And wow! That DW is astounding

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posted February 24, 2016 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
theoretically composite would be valid, too (pd does not give angles though).

Anyway can you check if in the daily harmonics an aspect (or midpoint picture) of the harmonics for the whole year got repeated?

Just noticed that in my Age harmonics this year I have Sun conjunct Venus/ASC, and in the dailies on saturday I have Sun conjunct Venus/ASC as well.

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posted February 24, 2016 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting first observations of the DAH of the first meeting chart:

Him
ASC 27°13 Aries
Sun 28°00 Aries

Me
DESC 8°41 Virgo
Moon 9°44 Virgo


So he had Sun on the ASC, I had Moon on the DESC.

Using the equal house system, in both cases, it was the ruler of 5th house (Sun for him, Moon for me).


Also noteably

my DAH Sun 9°15 Sag
my n Neptune 9°57 Sag
my n NN 10°09 Sag

his DAH Mercury 8°24 Sag
his n Mercury 9°23 Sag

composite Jupiter 10°41 Gemini
First meeting chart`s ASC: 9°01 Sag

as for midpoints these were activated in our respective charts:

his DAH Mercury:
opposite Saturn/ Uranus 0°03
opposite Uranus/Node 0°06

(his DAH also had Saturn conjunct NN with 6 minutes orb, which kinda fit the fact that Tr Saturn was conjunct his natal NN by 0°39)

his n Mercury=
conjunct Venus/Pluto 0°44
conjunct Sun/Uranus 0°48
(conjunct Uranus/MC 1°28)

my DAH Sun=
conjunct Moon/ASC 0°02
opposite Neptune/MC 0°50
conjunct Mars/Uranus 0°52
square Jupiter/Neptune 0°59


my n Neptune =
conjunct Node/ASC 1°21
conjunct Moon/MC 1°08
square Saturn/Uranus 0°47

my n Node=
conjunct Moon/MC 0°55
square Saturn/Uranus 1°00

fmc ASC =
opposite Mercury/Venus 0°09
square Uranus/Neptune 0°49


composite Jupiter=
opposite Node/ASC 0°22

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posted February 24, 2016 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted February 24, 2016 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
synastrically these combinations seem relevant


his DAH Moon 16°03 Gemini
my DAH Neptune 14°52 Gemini

his DAH Mercury 8°24 Sag
his n Mercury 9°23n Sag
my DAH Sun 9°15 Sag
my n Neptune 9°56 Sag
my n NN 10°09 Sag


his DAH Uranus 4°11 Virgo
my DAH Saturn 5°10 Pisces
- yes definitely very relateable


his DAH Lilith 6°15 Cancer
my DAH mars 5°13 Cap
my n Venus 6°07 Cap

his DAH IC 5°52 Sag
my DAH Jupiter 5°36 Sag
my DAH IC 5°18 Sag
my n Mars 5°10 Sag

my DAH Moon 9°44 Virgo
my DAH DESC 8°41 Virgo
his n Jupiter 10°09 Virgo
(his n Mars 11°05 Virgo)
his n EROS 8°21 Pisces
his n AMOR 9°03 Virgo

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posted February 24, 2016 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The day I started developing a fascination with someone:

my
Moon exactly conjunct IC, interestingly at the degree of my natal Moon
DSC conjunct Neptune
Uranus exactly opposite Pluto
Sun square ASC

composite
SN conjunct Venus, 1 minute (NN conjunct his natal ASC, hmm)
ASC exactly square Neptune
IC conjunct Chiron
Moon square Jupiter


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posted February 24, 2016 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Auntie,

I trust the conjunctions to the angles do not exceed 2° orb?


"my
Moon exactly conjunct IC, interestingly at the degree of my natal Moon"
Makes sense. And wow! leaving such an emotional impact, like finding an important part of our "soul-home" or "soul-haven"


"DSC conjunct Neptune"
Speaks of the fascination, some kind of magic and dreaminess, and Neptune isn`t the planet of actors (and psychics) for nothing.

Soulmatey, but maybe not yet strictly grounded (though if there are some more earthy aspects present as well, the Neptune is just heavenly)

"Uranus exactly opposite Pluto"
A revolution to your life, total game changer, especially if conjunct or opposite an angle, Sun or Moon or nodal axis, too


"composite
SN conjunct Venus, 1 minute (NN conjunct his natal ASC, hmm)"
Awww isn`t that sweet?
possibly a romance from the past effecting his way of relating too (potentially at least, I mean once you meet him )


"IC conjunct Chiron"
Definitely a transformational process taking place.


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posted February 24, 2016 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am more interested in the Daily harmonics of the concert on saturday though, so I guess I am going to work on this next.

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posted February 24, 2016 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I trust the conjunctions to the angles do not exceed 2° orb?

Why so strict? The DSC-Neptune conjunction is almost 2 deg and IC-Chiron is a little over 1 deg. But you know how it is with angles, even seconds can change things.

The most earthy aspect is the exact Mercury-Saturn sextile.

Uranus and Pluto are square the nodal axis by 2 deg, Pluto conjunct Chiron 2 deg.

Maybe I should post his stuff too.
MC 28.51 Cancer
NN 29.02 Cancer
Sun 0.47 Leo
(conjunct my nSN at 28 Cancer and square my hMoon-IC)
Mercury conjunct SN

Mars exactly opposite Moon
Moon exactly trine Pluto
Sun square Saturn

Btw, it's Dero


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posted February 24, 2016 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because if we are not strict, it actually points at another day (2 degrees are actually really generous, and I only allow it because angles move so quickly)


the MC-NN-Sun definitely is a biggie though.

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posted February 24, 2016 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's more interesting synastrical stuff.

his Saturn sandwiched by my DSC and Neptune, around 1 deg on each side
his Pluto exactly on my Saturn
his Mars conjunct my Jupiter
his Jupiter square my Venus
his Neptune trine my SN, 2 minutes
his Venus square my nodes if 3 deg isn't too much

quote:
Because if we are not strict, it actually points at another day (2 degrees are actually really generous, and I only allow it because angles move so quickly)

I see. Can you tell me the maximum orb you allow for each aspect?


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posted February 24, 2016 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Generally speaking 1°,

but....

there are some exceptions.... some.... and just allowing for a little more leeway.


1. angles
I consider conjunctions (and only conjunctions) to the angles up to 2 degrees (because the age harmonics move so quickly, and well for example in my AH for saturday Solar fire shows an ASC of 6°06 Cancer for me, while on planetdance it is an ASC of 7°48 Cancer)


2. rolling conjunctions.
if planet A conjuncts planet B, and planet B conjuncts planet C (within 1 degree) but planet A and planet C are actually out of orb, I still consider those conjunct (B will be on the midpoint of A/C anyway).

3. in practice I keep an eye on every conjunction or opposition up to 1°30, but also in practice I have seen that usually the orbs at significant events are much much smaller than that, often nearer to 30 minutes than 1 degree orb actually.

And sometimes even though I allowed a 2 degree orb, reality did not back this up all the time (but sometimes it did), while when the orb was well under 1 degree orb I have never seen it fail so far

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posted February 24, 2016 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you.

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posted February 24, 2016 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The day I think I saw Apollo in action for the first time I had MC exactly conjunct Uranus. His IC was conjunct Uranus under 1, heh.

his Neptune conjunct my DSC
his Saturn conjunct my SN under 1.30
his DSC conjunct my Venus
his Mars exactly conjunct my Moon

I know this is wide but there's a 3 deg conjunction of DSC and NN in the composite. Plus and exact MC-NN trine. Mars conjunct Neptune.

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posted February 24, 2016 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, very interesting guys.

BUT... as there are literally COUNTLESS ways to compare, we have to be clear about WHAT we're comparing, for the sake of our research.

Namely and for example, we can make a COMPOSITE of;
- his Age harmonic + your natal
- your Age harmonic + his natal
- his DAILY Age harmonic + your natal
- your DAILY Age harmonic + his natal
- your Age harmonic + his DAILY Age harmonic
- his Age harmonic + your DAILY Age harmonic
- his Age harmonic + your Age harmonic
- his DAILY Age harmonic + your DAILY Age harmonic
- your Daily Age harmonic + your natal
- his DAILY Age harmonic + his natal
- your Age harmonic + your natal
- his Age harmnonic + his natal

^ we can even extend this list with transits/progressions etc.


Thanks in advance! ;D

To abbreviate:

DAH = DAILY Age harmonic
AH = Age harmonic


quote:
Anyway can you check if in the daily harmonics an aspect (or midpoint picture) of the harmonics for the whole year got repeated?

Yes I'll let you know if I walk against something of that order.

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posted February 25, 2016 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well i think i am going to keep it simple for now.just dah to dah composite.

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posted April 23, 2016 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am more interested in the Daily harmonics of the concert on saturday though, so I guess I am going to work on this next.


Maybe I SHOULD have done that.

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posted April 23, 2016 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That were my DAH for it

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In DAH (and tertiary progressions) I seem to notice it is the exact conjunctions (within 1 degree) to the angles or Vertex that set the scene. It seems to me that if those conjunctions are missing, there often is no strong connection or meeting to speak of, no matter what else is going on in the chart.

Almost like they are needed as some kind of magnifier or even catalyst to bring the whole chart into manifestation

(conjunctions and oppositions to Sun and Moon might work that way, too, but I have not investigated it as thoroughly). - speaking synastrically btw -

Interestingly his DAH Vertex was conjunct my name in his chart exactly.

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posted June 12, 2016 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me & him and our ............... kittenSssss;


(this is mine):


Soooo..

Even the DAILY age harmonics give a NEW MOON with the 5 of us (him and his 2 baby kittens & me and my 1 baby kitten)

Yes they're all from the same nest.

It was already totally amazing what I found in each progressed composite between me & kitten and between him & kittens when we got them (and first met);

Me & baby an EXACT prog-compo New Moon.
Him & babies an EXACT prog-compo Lunar Phase Return.

So, looking at the DAILY-age-harmonics (DAH) now;

The DAH COMPOSITE of him and babies;
separating square
The DAH COMPOSITE of me and baby;
applying square

^ together (so: making a DAH composite of both Composites);

- Sun 6'14 Taurus
- Moon 4'19 Taurus

(midpoint 5'17 taurus)


Looking back at the progressed composite midpoint of that Lunar Phase Return between him & babies;
Pc Sun 10'49 taurus
Pc Moon 0'25 taurus

(midpoint 5'37 taurus)


I literally feel that we are still in its infancy with all the astro possibilities that might give a clue on TIMING.

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posted June 18, 2016 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You two are beautiful together

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posted June 18, 2016 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
our DAH synastry for today


his hMars opp. my hVenus 0°10
his hNeptune conj. my hBML 0°19


his hMoon opp. my Sun 0°20
his hMoon opp. my Mercury 0°32
his hJupiter opp. my Sun 0°06
his hJupiter opp. my Mercury 0°46
his hChiron conj. my IC 0°21


my hMoon conj. his Pluto 0°44
my hMercury conj. his Pluto 1°14
my hIC conj. his Venus 0°32
my hMC conj. his Juno 1°11


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posted June 18, 2016 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you manually calculate the DAH by hand?

Edit: Nevermind. I just realized my version of Planetdance is old.

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posted June 18, 2016 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ yes indeed, I had to re-install PD also for that reason. I think I will do it again one of these days for more options.

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