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posted March 01, 2016 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just really seriously thought that this guy was the One for me. We had such a nice time together, and I have never felt more comfortable or attracted physically to a guy like that... I just really loved him, and didn't really wanted our relationship to go so wrong... but I also had some emotional problems I had to take care of, and my life is very stressful at the moment with career and all those things... at the same time my now ex-boyfriend seem to be more and more interested in everything else but to make our relationship function. He was always together with friends and now he has moved abroad to another country.

But still we talk a lot together, and I still care a lot for him... I don't think I can give up on him yet, but I am pretty sure he doesn't want to have me as his girlfriend right now.

What can I do? What can we do?
Do you think we have a chance according to astrology, or should I just forget about it? I probably cant forget about him at all, but should I try to forget ever getting back together with this guy, I once saw as my one and only, perfect match??

Here is our synastry...

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LaceyLeigh
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posted March 01, 2016 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who's on the inside and who's on the outside?

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posted March 01, 2016 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
Who's on the inside and who's on the outside?

I'm on the outside (the virgo)

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Dancing Maenad
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posted March 01, 2016 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am really sorry, NTN. How long have you guys been together? The composite chart might help also. And your progressed charts and composite.

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LaceyLeigh
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posted March 01, 2016 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I'm on the outside (the virgo)

Interesting, before you even responded I guessed that you were the Virgo. I think your Neptune squaring his Sun made you think the he was better for you than he actually is.

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posted March 02, 2016 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
I am really sorry, NTN. How long have you guys been together? The composite chart might help also. And your progressed charts and composite.

We were together for 2,5 years....

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Knowflake

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posted March 02, 2016 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
Interesting, before you even responded I guessed that you were the Virgo. I think your Neptune squaring his Sun made you think the he was better for you than he actually is.

He probably is I have been dreaming of him the last week every single night, and in my dreams we are still together but somehow he seems a bit detached... our relationship felt very dreamy and nice, he felt almost like an angel to me (I know it sounds a bit corny lol:P) but seriously, he was my everything, but I always struggled with so many other things, so maybe I just took it all for granted I don't know

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VestasLight
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posted March 02, 2016 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VestasLight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, you do have binding aspects with Saturn so I see why it lasted 2.5 years. But there is also that sq of your Saturn to his Venus. That's a tough one to deal with.

I agree, let's see the composite.

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posted March 02, 2016 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing to add Astrology wise. Just to give you a hug. Hang in there

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posted March 02, 2016 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is our composite...
[IMG]http://www.astro.com/tmpd/cdvsfilee4MXSr-u1455378670/astro_621gw_01_02_ahjj_f_aa.83689.32458.gif [/IMG] [/B]

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todd
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posted March 03, 2016 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 05, 2016 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump... please just a short insight without composite!!

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posted March 14, 2016 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

NOW with composite!!! Please any insight is good!

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Yanmorg
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posted March 15, 2016 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump*

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todd
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posted March 15, 2016 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi next to Neptune

theh first problem is that pluto is square to the node.pluto is symbolic of unconscious,instinctual and selfish motives. this square shows that underneath everything there are selfishnsh motives which will not compromise. this aspect gives a emotional void separating each other.

secondly with mercury conjunct to the sun and square to Uranus , you minds and conversations were very intense and analytical but you both had different opinions on many if not all subjects. this is an aspect of arguments. but since you say this was a good relationship, I have to assume that instead of arguing, you would both remain silent and and let differences smolder. with the mercury/Uranus and mercury sun midpoints also square the node, these differences never went away and built up instead.
the Jupiter/Uranus midpoint(breakups) is square to Saturn which bodes a unstable relationship and breakup. this instability is also noted as the Uranus/Saturn midpoint is conjunct the descendant with Neptune on the descendant. this shows he was uncertain about the relationship from the beginning but did not mention this. this pattern shows you were totally caught by surprise at the breakup, especially as the moon/Neptune midpoint is conjunct he node.
the moon/venus midpoint is square to Uranus so the attraction was immediate and intense between you. but Uranus is also unstable and usually is found in affairs, not long-term relationships.in some manner he was too good to be true.
another rindication of a intense affair is shown by the mars/Uranus midpoint conjunct to Venus. this shows you were totally infatuated with him,but he was interested in a sexual hookup but not a commitment.
the mars/Uranus midpoint s also square to chiron which implies that before he broke it off, he started to question and criticize everything you did and said to him.

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posted March 16, 2016 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

quote:
Originally posted by todd:
hi next to Neptune

theh first problem is that pluto is square to the node.pluto is symbolic of unconscious,instinctual and selfish motives. this square shows that underneath everything there are selfishnsh motives which will not compromise. this aspect gives a emotional void separating each other.

secondly with mercury conjunct to the sun and square to Uranus , you minds and conversations were very intense and analytical but you both had different opinions on many if not all subjects. this is an aspect of arguments. but since you say this was a good relationship, I have to assume that instead of arguing, you would both remain silent and and let differences smolder. with the mercury/Uranus and mercury sun midpoints also square the node, these differences never went away and built up instead.
the Jupiter/Uranus midpoint(breakups) is square to Saturn which bodes a unstable relationship and breakup. this instability is also noted as the Uranus/Saturn midpoint is conjunct the descendant with Neptune on the descendant. this shows he was uncertain about the relationship from the beginning but did not mention this. this pattern shows you were totally caught by surprise at the breakup, especially as the moon/Neptune midpoint is conjunct he node.
the moon/venus midpoint is square to Uranus so the attraction was immediate and intense between you. but Uranus is also unstable and usually is found in affairs, not long-term relationships.in some manner he was too good to be true.
another rindication of a intense affair is shown by the mars/Uranus midpoint conjunct to Venus. this shows you were totally infatuated with him,but he was interested in a sexual hookup but not a commitment.
the mars/Uranus midpoint s also square to chiron which implies that before he broke it off, he started to question and criticize everything you did and said to him.

todd


Hey todd... I am not so known with these midpoints, is it the same as aspects or?

And do you think this is all dealbreakers, or do we have a chance to learn from this and grow as a couple in the future? I still have contact with him regularly, and I still love him, but I am not sure he feels the same anymore...

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posted March 17, 2016 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump.... can someone please give some more insight?? im still totally heartbroken, and its hard for me to believe that we were not a nice match in some way...

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posted March 18, 2016 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't quite say it's perfect. It looks more like a suffocating, resolving karmic debt relationship. And with Chiron square Venus in the composite, from my personal experience, there will always be a feeling of hurt and pain in the relationship. Hard to let go too.
One or the other,or even both usually unconsciously is pushing the others buttons surfacing some kind of trauma which may have not yet acknowledged.

I'm no expert here but I'm just giving my point of view on similar aspects I had with an ex partner.

Might be also hard to stay only friends, especially for the person who has their planets in the others 5th house. There will always be a feeling of attraction. That is the difficult part of letting go

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posted March 18, 2016 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(((hugs))) next to neptune!!!

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posted March 18, 2016 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 3l3n:
I wouldn't quite say it's perfect. It looks more like a suffocating, resolving karmic debt relationship. And with Chiron square Venus in the composite, from my personal experience, there will always be a feeling of hurt and pain in the relationship. Hard to let go too.
One or the other,or even both usually unconsciously is pushing the others buttons surfacing some kind of trauma which may have not yet acknowledged.

I'm no expert here but I'm just giving my point of view on similar aspects I had with an ex partner.

Might be also hard to stay only friends, especially for the person who has their planets in the others 5th house. There will always be a feeling of attraction. That is the difficult part of letting go


Never thought of it like that :/ He was always really kind towards me, romantic and just nice. But in a way some of my emotional problems got worse while we where together... now that I'm alone again, I actually feel much more happy than with him... but it's more in the way, where I want to show him that I can be okay and not sad.

He was always extremely social (he's a libra sun + venus) and relaxed around all kinds of people...and very flighty too (gemini ascendant). I am also social and enjoy other peoples company, but maybe in a more introverted way... somehow he always made me feel that I wasn't right and couldn't be social in a normal way. It was never anything he said or did wrong, he always told me to believe in myself and that I was ok, but somehow I just didn't felt he ment what he said. I felt that it was all lies.... I dont think it was now when we have broke up, but it became too hurtful while we were a couple. I feel much better now, but it's just a shame it had to end so bad.... maybe its this venus square chiron thing, I dont know...

And yes, a lot of my planet falls in his 5th house, so it's probably not gonna work out as a friendship, although we were great friends while we were together...

I just have this really bad taste in my mouth now, because I feel that all he said was just lies and that he never really truly loved me, as I loved him.... love is a b****!

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posted March 18, 2016 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 3l3n:
I wouldn't quite say it's perfect. It looks more like a suffocating, resolving karmic debt relationship. And with Chiron square Venus in the composite, from my personal experience, there will always be a feeling of hurt and pain in the relationship. Hard to let go too.
One or the other,or even both usually unconsciously is pushing the others buttons surfacing some kind of trauma which may have not yet acknowledged.

I'm no expert here but I'm just giving my point of view on similar aspects I had with an ex partner.

Might be also hard to stay only friends, especially for the person who has their planets in the others 5th house. There will always be a feeling of attraction. That is the difficult part of letting go


i see this as well; looks more like you guys are both dealing with the same pattern of issues. i don't think having the moon opposite a stellium natally (which both of you have) is a good thing. it would mean, as i see it, that you'd both struggle with similar issues instead of helping one another grow and progress forward. it would keep you both in a very set pattern of behavior which neither would compel the other to break. too much 5th house as well, which just doesn't deepen feelings beyond good times and dating, a lot of times.

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posted March 19, 2016 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starmoon:
i see this as well; looks more like you guys are both dealing with the same pattern of issues. i don't think having the moon opposite a stellium natally (which both of you have) is a good thing. it would mean, as i see it, that you'd both struggle with similar issues instead of helping one another grow and progress forward. it would keep you both in a very set pattern of behavior which neither would compel the other to break. too much 5th house as well, which just doesn't deepen feelings beyond good times and dating, a lot of times.


What do you mean with saying that we both got our moon opposite a stellium natally? I have moon opposite mars in my natal chart thats it. And my ex got moon opposite mercury which isn't part of a stellium.
In the synastry I got my moon opposite his sun, but his moon isnt opposite any of my planets, so I don't think you looked at it closely?

And also about this 5th house thing. If you look closely we each got what the other needs. My ex got most of his planets in his 5th house, so that's what he need.
I got most of my own planets in 4th house, and his sun, mercury and venus is in my 4th house, so I see this as a good thing. I gave him fun and good times (most of the time), and he gave me my 4th house craving for intimacy and care.

Our relationship really wasn't that bad as you might think. We had lots of good times with each other so dont turn me against this guy! I realise we couldn't go on as a couple, but I still miss someone in here who can give a more deep insight into why. I feel people forget to look at the bigger picture.
Last time I put our charts in here, everyone said we were the perfect match because we each got what the other one needs. Lots of our synastry aspect goes again in our natal charts. The composite chart is cra*, but I don't really believe so much in composite charts to be honest... synastry is much more interesting and accurate.

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posted March 22, 2016 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump bump buuuump.....

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