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Topic: Is there Karma in this Synastry?
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ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 653 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 01, 2016 07:14 PM
Hi,Can you take a look at this synastry and composite and let me know if there is any karma in it -- and if so -- what is it we are supposed to be working out? This is with a work colleague... He is Person 1 and his birth time unknown so just putting up aspects: Synastry: Composite: IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 653 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 01, 2016 09:53 PM
I'm seeing a few things...SN conjunct Jupiter--In the past HE was a benefactor/helper in some way? Pluto/Moon in Synastry; Pluto Square Moon Composite--I've always heard that this is karmic. Perhaps we have come together--so that I learn more about my emotions? Pluto/Venus Composite--Another aspect I have heard is karmic...perhaps were are here to revamp each others' thoughts on love, beauty, valuables? IP: Logged |
VestasLight Knowflake Posts: 149 From: Canada Registered: Mar 2015
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posted March 02, 2016 07:43 AM
Without the actual synastry chart it's hard to tell.Second house overlays actually have a lot to do with karmic relationships. We've talked about it here on the forums before. Also 12th house overlays. Saturn in close conjunction to personal planets is really karmic. But I don't find it to be so with easy aspects. Try putting in some of the asteroids too and see what comes up: (3811)Karma (1221)Amor (390) Alma (446) Aternitas - this one means eternity and I've found it really relevant in most of the synastry I've studied where the couples have been together for 10 or more years. There are lots more asteroids to use, but these are my favs when looking for karmic connections beyond planets. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 653 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 03, 2016 07:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by VestasLight: Without the actual synastry chart it's hard to tell.Second house overlays actually have a lot to do with karmic relationships. We've talked about it here on the forums before. Also 12th house overlays. Saturn in close conjunction to personal planets is really karmic. But I don't find it to be so with easy aspects. Try putting in some of the asteroids too and see what comes up: (3811)Karma (1221)Amor (390) Alma (446) Aternitas - this one means eternity and I've found it really relevant in most of the synastry I've studied where the couples have been together for 10 or more years. There are lots more asteroids to use, but these are my favs when looking for karmic connections beyond planets.
Hi Vesta, Here is the synastry with those asteroids...I wasn't sure how to really read this given that I don't have Person 1's birth time... Also--I see as far what you said about Saturn--that there is a Saturn conjunct Mars...what is the karma that is being played out there? IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2570 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted March 03, 2016 09:40 PM
Too much secrecy. I'll need to see this person's chart.IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 653 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 03, 2016 10:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: Too much secrecy. I'll need to see this person's chart.
Hi--what do you mean by too much secrecy? Between the 2 people? IP: Logged |
VestasLight Knowflake Posts: 149 From: Canada Registered: Mar 2015
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posted March 04, 2016 10:42 AM
ScorpieScorp, it's not the graph we need. It's the actual synastry charts - your natal chart and his, overlayed. That is what we need to see. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 653 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 04, 2016 06:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by VestasLight: ScorpieScorp, it's not the graph we need. It's the actual synastry charts - your natal chart and his, overlayed. That is what we need to see.
Ah got it. I didn't post those since the overlays won't be correct. I don't have Person 1's birth time.. Still want me to post? IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 653 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 04, 2016 06:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by VestasLight: ScorpieScorp, it's not the graph we need. It's the actual synastry charts - your natal chart and his, overlayed. That is what we need to see.
Inside: Person 1 Outside: Person 2 IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2570 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted March 04, 2016 06:48 PM
Much better.There are two main schools of thought on Karma. 1. Past Life Karma is a real thing. 2. There is no way of knowing what happened in a past life. In fact, all karma is balanced out in the present life. I will go with the second school for this post. Observe how this person interacted with you, and what your first impression was of them. Next, search your memory for a person who was born within a month of this person in either direction. The karma from that relationship is what you're working through with this person. Karma, btw, does not mean bad or good, just what you gave out coming back to you. Eg. unrequited love being returned. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 653 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 04, 2016 09:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: Much better.There are two main schools of thought on Karma. 1. Past Life Karma is a real thing. 2. There is no way of knowing what happened in a past life. In fact, all karma is balanced out in the present life. I will go with the second school for this post. Observe how this person interacted with you, and what your first impression was of them. Next, search your memory for a person who was born within a month of this person in either direction. The karma from that relationship is what you're working through with this person. Karma, btw, does not mean bad or good, just what you gave out coming back to you. Eg. unrequited love being returned.
Wow--I have chills. I had to really think about what it was with the 2 people that came to mind--2 exes, one born Nov.2 and another Oct 19. Person 1 was born Nov. 17. Both of those relationships--I gave "you can't have me" but I also gave devotion, loyalty--and a chance. I'm getting ALL of that from this person. Person 1 is married--can't have him. But at work--he gives me a chance to excel at my job, has supported me and been pretty attentive. But I feel all of this energy--and I don't know how to comprehend it. He's not a very open person, plus we are not romantic, so I have no idea if he feels all of this. He is a person of authority at my job--so maybe I'm reacting to that? Energy is energy--this one feels like I better be devoted to him, be fully focused and with all of those Saturn aspects (I'm assuming) it feels more and more binding each day--while his enthusiasm for me is not as high as it was when I first started--like I've worn him down or something. At work I'm not so emotive--and I wonder if that bothers him... I want to know if there is karma to work out--because I keep getting other job opportunities--and wonder if I'm supposed to be here (if you knew the story of how I got there, you'd think I was meant to be there on purpose). Any other insights? FYI, I believe in past lives..and that we do work out things in this life from past lives.. IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2570 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted March 04, 2016 10:38 PM
quote: I want to know if there is karma to work out--because I keep getting other job opportunities--and wonder if I'm supposed to be here (if you knew the story of how I got there, you'd think I was meant to be there on purpose).Any other insights?
If the karma is unfinished with this person and you walk away, another will show up to help you finish it. If you're in a situation where you're receiving love you once gave out I'd say the karma is balanced. From here on out you're creating new karma or paying-it-forward. To say or go?? Search your memory to remember what it was you wanted out of those past relationships. This person is here to help you along that path. If you still want those things, receive. Just remember this person is an individual and will have their own needs. If your interests have changed and those things are no longer important, thank him and follow your heart. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 653 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 05, 2016 10:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: If the karma is unfinished with this person and you walk away, another will show up to help you finish it. If you're in a situation where you're receiving love you once gave out I'd say the karma is balanced. From here on out you're creating new karma or paying-it-forward. To say or go?? Search your memory to remember what it was you wanted out of those past relationships. This person is here to help you along that path. If you still want those things, receive. Just remember this person is an individual and will have their own needs. If your interests have changed and those things are no longer important, thank him and follow your heart.
Thanks Nine...is there anything particular you are basing this on (such as aspects or something in the chart) or is your analysis more around karma philosophy/ I ask because I am trying to learn how to read karma in charts--and am using this one since I am feeling so much energy... LMK! Anyone else see anything karmic in the chart? Vestalight? IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2570 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted March 06, 2016 12:42 PM
Karma philosophy and the fact that this person stood out above others, and that you feel so connected to them.IP: Logged |