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Topic: Gurus, teachers, mentors...
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Faith
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posted March 02, 2016 11:32 AM
  
Composite & synastry What have you got? I'm posting something in a few minutes... IP: Logged |
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posted March 02, 2016 11:50 AM
Oh my gosh! So into this topic. I'll post mine shortly.IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted March 02, 2016 11:57 AM
  Astrotheme only has a noon chart for Tolle, which gives him a Gemini ASC. I "rectified" it so that his NN is on the ASC in Taurus and MeisterEckart is on the IC. This gives him a 12H moon conjunct Ceres. Who knows if that's right, but I like this chart better than the noon chart. Some Notes:
* My Meistereckhart (35179) @ 2 Pisces, conjunct his Mercury in Pisces. * Notice, I have Mercury-Liebe-Mentor all tightly conjunct at 4-5 Aquarius, which is conjunct composite sun-Venus-Hyperborea, on my natal DSC. * Composite NN-Pholus-Mercury-Jupiter on my sun/moon midpoint at 17 Aquarius.  * His NN 17.36 Taurus, my SN 20.00 Taurus. His Psyche exactly on my NN. * Pallas conjunct Pallas, though a little wide...his is on my moon/Pallas midpoint. * I love that we both have sun conjunct Hyperborea.  * Composite has an exact grand earth trine of Liebe, Meistereckhart, Pluto. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted March 02, 2016 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Oh my gosh! So into this topic. I'll post mine shortly.
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Faith
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posted March 02, 2016 12:13 PM
Draconic "rectified" chart for Tolle:* 9 Cap sun
* 18 Pisces moon-Ceres ^ Exactly on my tropical moon. I know it doesn't really count, but how strange. And he definitely has a Cap sun, Pisces moon in draconic, which is my tropical combination. * 16 Capricorn Mercury, conjunct my tr sun.
* 17 Aqua Venus, conjunct my tr sun/moon MP.
* 6 Scorpio Jupiter, conjunct my tr Uranus.
* 3-4 Aqua Pallas-Kaali, conjunct my tr Mercury.
* 1 Leo Mentor, conjunct my tr Saturn. IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted March 02, 2016 12:24 PM
Hi Faith!!!
Dropped by just to say hi..
Interesting topic, I was always curious about the synastry with a professor that I had during some professional courses that I had to take..I always considered him a real teacher, the best teacher in my whole life..Unfortunately I don't know if I can find his birthtime though..I only know he is an aqua lol
What is important aspect-wise in these cases?
Hope you are well!
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Faith
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posted March 02, 2016 12:31 PM
Hi Mar!Not sure what is important. I've just been surprised, when looking at the charts of people who've had an extraordinary impact on my thinking. There's always something remarkable, like a stellium, planets on the angles, etc. I became very deeply engrossed in a book by astrologer Richard Tarnas last year, around this time. Amazingly, at that time, my progressed chart looked almost identical to his natal chart.  Inner planets, I mean. When I realized that.....  ***CORRECTION, sorry: Tarnas' draconic chart = my progressed chart, last year: His draconic sun 24 Aqua
My progressed sun 25 Aqua His draconic Mercury 0 Aqua
My pr Mercury 29 Cap His draconic Venus 25 Cap
My progressed Venus 24 Cap His draconic ASC 18 Gemini
My progressed Mars 18 Gemini His draconic moon 15 Aries
My progressed moon 17 Leo
My tropical Jupiter 16 Aries
My draconic Venus 16 Aries IP: Logged |
athenaia
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posted March 02, 2016 12:34 PM
Love the exact Psyche/NN conjunction you have in synastry! Positively dreamy  The natural course of one's life path aligning with the other's definition of heavenly beauty. I'll post three of mine - one of whom I have an exact time for, the other two I have about an hours estimate of IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted March 02, 2016 12:39 PM
Thank you thank you athenaia! I agree, NN-Psyche feels emphatically RIGHT, like having a compass that always points due north. Looking forward to seeing your charts! IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted March 02, 2016 12:46 PM
@Faith
lol, that is so weird when it happens! That's why astrology never stops being really exciting!
I like your composite yod very much btw, although it may be rectified 
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Faith
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posted March 02, 2016 12:51 PM
I know right?  Astrology is always cool.I love that fake yod, too. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted March 02, 2016 12:53 PM
Guru Brahma, Guru Vishnu  ^ Random soundtrack, couldn't help it. IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted March 02, 2016 01:02 PM
Ok, I found someone who I admire very very much and although I confess I have not read all of his books or I am not obsessive or sth like this, I really wish I could meet him somehow - I am deeply impressed by his findings and his research, there aren't enough words in fact lolLook at the birthdate.. I'll definitely meet him someday!!
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athenaia
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posted March 02, 2016 01:02 PM
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Faith
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posted March 02, 2016 01:02 PM
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mar1982delta
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posted March 02, 2016 01:06 PM
@ Faith:
Yayyyyyy!!!!! 
I knew you would find him, but I erased the name just for fun lol  I have enormous respect for this man, I can't really express it well, it is very difficult to put it in words!
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Faith
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posted March 02, 2016 01:06 PM
WOW athenaia!!!!  Thank you both so much, I have a lot to say and maybe ask about, I'm heading out the door but I'll be back! IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted March 02, 2016 01:13 PM
Hi athenaia!
Wow, I have definitely never seen a vertex-vertex conjunction, apart the other aspects, I am still looking at your first chart lol
However I was impressed because if I saw well, your mercury is unaspected and he was the one he saw the potential in you and you were his favorite student! So that made me think about unaspected planets in synastry (because they are still a mystery to me) and wondered if you would like to share your opinion/experience. Perhaps the unaspected planet is more powerful as some astrologers say for this natal placement? I mean do you think this may be valid in a synastry, too?
Thank you very much!edit I just saw all the angles exactly conjunct!
I must be blind, I saw mercury and not the angles! Wonderful, I have never seen such an exact conjunction of angles and vertex altogether!!! IP: Logged |
athenaia
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posted March 02, 2016 01:30 PM
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mar1982delta
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posted March 02, 2016 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by athenaia:
Hey Mars! It truly is some aesthetically fascinating synastry, I feel really blessed I was able to get an exact time for it. So many synastry charts in my astro.com queue become a bit lackluster because I don't have a birthtime for them! One of the great tragedies of being a mini astrologer.. I have a tendency to reduce all orbs on my synastries to 40%, so if I were to plug in the astro data and leave it be, our Mercuries would have some wider aspects, not necessarily making them unaspected: My Mercury :  His Mercury:  I think unaspected planets can still be valid and almost act the way an elemental void would act in one's natal chart. For instance, even when using astro.com's full orbs, my boyfriend has an unaspected moon in our synastry. We've been together for nearly four years with very few bumps in our relationship, so he doesn't necessarily "want" for anything even though it looks concerning in synastry. I do believe other binding factors can make up for this sort of thing, but the rest of the synastry would have to be exceptional imo
Thank you very much for your answer! Happy to hear that unaspected planets in synastry is not something really dreadful lol
Yes, indeed, not having the birthtime is really irritating when you want to study astrology! Charts are so incomplete this way :/ This is the chart I was talking about before, his birthdate is public in fb, I didn't believe I was so lucky lol
Birthtime unknown of course, so the angles conjunction just came up randomly with birthtime at 12.00 noon
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Vajra
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posted March 02, 2016 02:59 PM
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Faith
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posted March 02, 2016 03:34 PM
@Mar I love Jung ~ it took me a minute to realize whose chart it was, my mind is running slow today. Obviously the sun-sun, angle-angle stuff is impressive...even Vertex-Vertex with a wider orb. I love the NN-Mercury conjunction and Jupiter-Pluto (you would have been filthy rich if became an actual couple!  ) He's only like 100 years too old for you...but hey, love knows no bounds! I see you included Eros, so you apparently already know that. hehehehe Did I miss anything? What else is significant for you, here? ETA: Wow, goosebumps, I thought of posting a chart for someone born Jan 18, 1963. Very similar.
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Faith
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posted March 02, 2016 03:52 PM
@athenaiaOk, if you really must delete...but I'm so enchanted with your writing, I hate to see it go! Chart #1: Angle & Vertex conjunctions are mindblowing. Looks like you have Pluto-Neptune synastry both ways, and a moon-moon opposition. I feel like his moon-Mercury near your SN enabled him to tap into you on a deeply intuitive level. Chart #2: The "asterisk" formation in the middle is incredible. Looks very "universal," with several sets of oppositions or complementary pairs creating balance across the board. I love the matching Cap stellia. Maybe because I'm biased towards Capricorn. Chart # 3: His Jupiter on your Mercury! Great for teaching. I love that he's so Aries and pushed you into doing something you thought you couldn't do (dontcha love Aries??) Also, Moon-Pallas conjunctions are fantastic; NN = Mars/Vertex. Did I miss anything? IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted March 02, 2016 03:54 PM
@Faith
haahahahahahah, no, eros is among the standard asteroids that I use, I simply didn't exclude either it or the others!
And I don't know the suitable asteroids for mentors, although I saw some of the asteroids that you used later
I couldn't stop laughing, only 100 years old for me 
Is Jupiter - pluto responsible for wealth???? Hahahaha, so from now on, when I meet a guy I will ask him only for these planets of his lol (not in a million years, although it wouldn't be bad of course )
Wow, so strange, how did this person of 1963 affect you? If you want to say of course! I admire him the most, he is THE best teacher I ever had and I don't exaggerate, too bright, with humor, general knowledge and a real talent in "transmitting" knowledge (I don't know the suitable word, sorry). I will always remember him and he was the kind of person that he could inspire your whole life somehow..for me at least lol..a lot of my colleagues thought he was weird or strict or mocked him and I am really sorry they couldn't see his exceptional talent and didn't take the profit from it..however he was in general a "love or hate" person, others admired him, too. He was a bit "provocative", so he created controversial feelings among his students.
p.s. I found it weird that although I am the one that I feel he changed/inspired my life (so it was a turning point of before-after I had him as a teacher), it is his North Node that is on my Sun/Merc/Dsc. Or is it something which goes both ways and I haven't quite understood yet? 
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Faith
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posted March 02, 2016 03:58 PM
Thanks, Vajra  quote:
Possible asteroids to add into the mix include:- 3451 MENTOR
- 659 NESTOR
- 3402 WISDOM
Hmm, I don't know what Nestor is about yet. IP: Logged |
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