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Aunt Anomalia
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posted March 07, 2016 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've encountered opinions that this the chart to work with when it comes to transits vs. the composite. If you've tried this, do you have any gems to share? If you haven't, go do some digging for the sake of science.

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Ceridwen
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posted March 07, 2016 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Aunt Anomalia
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posted March 07, 2016 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's so funny?

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Ceridwen
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posted March 07, 2016 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The commando-style of your "suggestion" to go for some digging

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Aunt Anomalia
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posted March 07, 2016 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't mean to sound authorative. I guess it's hard to hide my inner alpha *shrug*
Now don't dare come back without astro

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Ceridwen
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posted March 07, 2016 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aunt Anomalia
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posted March 07, 2016 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm afraid I don't get that monkey thing.

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Ceridwen
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posted March 07, 2016 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me neither.


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Vajra
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posted March 07, 2016 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aunt Anomalia
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posted March 08, 2016 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, V. What about the day you became a couple?

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posted March 08, 2016 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooh, I'll play. The day my SO and I became a couple, (or rather, the beginning of the weekend when it just happened):

I think these are the most significant --
tMoon conjunct dNN (1˚ applying)
tNN-Psyche conjunct dSun (2˚ a)
tMercury conjunct dDSC (0˚ s)
tSun conjunct dJuno (1˚ a)
tUranus trine dVenus (0˚ a)
tMars trine dMars (1˚ a)
tVenus trine dVenus (2˚ s)


And others:
tNN trine dMoon (1˚ a)
tMercury square dVenus (0˚ s)
tUranus opposite dVertex (2˚ s)
tNeptune opposite dSun (1˚ a)
tPluto biquintile dVenus (0˚ s)
tSaturn trine dVenus (6˚ a)


There are so many more, it's hard to be discerning about this..

More:
tMoon conjunct MC (2˚ a)
tMars conjunct MC (4˚ a)
tSun square Venus (6˚ a)
tPluto conjunct Saturn (3˚ a)

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Aunt Anomalia
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posted March 08, 2016 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Selenite, conjunctions is what we should focus on here but if you insist on more aspects, I'd only accept squares and oppositions and I'd keep the orbs tight. I could only consider a trine or sextile if it's literally exact.

My suggestion: 30 minutes max for conjunctions unless it's the Sun, Moon, Mercury, an angle or the Vertex axis and applying, then I'd allow 60 minutes. When it's Saturn and above + separating - 15 minutes. Squares and oppositions - 15 minutes when applying, separation phase out.

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posted March 08, 2016 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:

My suggestion: 30 minutes max for conjunctions unless it's the Sun, Moon, Mercury, an angle or the Vertex axis and applying, then I'd allow 60 minutes. When it's Saturn and above + separating - 15 minutes. Squares and oppositions - 15 minutes when applying, separation phase out.


Wow! You are strict!

I have settled for conjunction and opposition (though I agree the square might be important too, but I already printed them out only with conj. and opp. lol).


But under one degree? Really?

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HOnestly though I agree with you, yes the ones under 1 degree, and especially when involving outer planets under 30 minutes (because they are so freaking slow) are my top priority ones.

But I do make a mental note when I see that the event chart has ASC conjunct Davison ASC at 2 degrees or so (after all this covers only a timespan of about 8-10 minutes, depnding if it is a fast rising sign or not of course: Mc is moving one degree very 4 minutes pretty reliably, so 2 degree orb definitely relates to 8 minutes, and I would think that is good enough, but obviously I am talking only for the angles in that case! Even the transiting Moon will take 2 hours for transiting one degree roughly, though that is still fine I think.)

But yeah okay, I hear you, you know I do.

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posted March 08, 2016 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, we can have 2 deg for angles and Vertex.

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posted March 08, 2016 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does that mean you demand of me to throw out the Vertex conjunct Davison Moon at 2°52? (which is also falling onto my natal Vertex and Sun/moon-mp? )

Yes I guess you do, and for a test I think you are right. The parameters must not be too wide. So okay, I stick to 2 degree orb.

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posted March 08, 2016 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, stomp on it and throw it out of the window

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posted March 08, 2016 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have picked several dates (maybe a pattern coming up?).

Also used some asteroids:

mean BML: well not an asteroid and i know what I said about mean BML before, but recently I have noticed her quite consistently coming up (maybe because she is so close to natural Lilith).

Anyway at least what I noticed so far is that she seems to indeed relate to "the other woman" - either an actual rival, or simply an archetype of a bit of a "forbn idden fruit" or sometimes simply indicating to "climb some fences" and extend boundaries.

Juno speaks for herself I guess, Ceres, too.

I also used Astraea though, cause she was still in my solar fire pick, coincidentally, but when having a glance at the transits she gave me several eyebrow-raising-moments.

I interprete her as the "won´t let go" asteroid (could be both positive or negatively sticking around and trying to work out what cannot be worked out. Well I don`t think AStraea gets to decide if it is worth it, she just stays around and tries to figure things out, create a balance and so on.)

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posted March 08, 2016 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just throw the meat already

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posted March 08, 2016 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So let`s go.

I. First Meeting
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intensely bizarre surreal first meeting, you know about it I think. However despite its intensity I find it important to remind that after it I staged a disappearance act, cause I felt sort of paranoid and embarassed by myself; it just shook too much of my self-beliefs (he tends to do that a lot, but by now I somehow got more used to it), and I had to readjust my perspectives (on myself and things in general) but I preferred to hide my head in the sand and well, hide away. lol

Oh and transiting planets first

Composite
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DESC conjunct Jupiter 1°40

SN conjunct Saturn 0°00!!!

Avx conjunct Moon 0°47
Jupiter conjunct Moon 0°47

Neptune conjunct Avx 0.44

BML opposite BML 1°29

Juno conjunct Sun 0°00 !!!

Uranus conjunct Ceres 1°10


Chiron opposite Saturn 0.41


DAVISON

Jupiter oppopsite Moon 1.17

Neptune conjunct Avx 0.40

BML opposite BML 1.25

Juno opposite Sun 1.01

Astraea conjunct Pluto 0.50


I guess the Composite wins out here, though it is not easy to tell.


II. Re-connection
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I decided many years and after a lot of hu? moments that I wanted to bring that sort-of-connection onto a normal level, so this chat happened pretty much 5 years after the first meeting (I spare you the other weird events in between).


COMPOSITE
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Saturn conjunct MC 0°19
Saturn conjunct Astraea 0.08

Venus conjunct Venus 0.24 (funny enough our composite had its Venus-Return-this day)


Mercury conjunct Uranus 1.14
(a few days before there was a solar ecclipse hitting our Uranus, which is the chartruler, so somehow that seems very fitting, I mean we DID talk)

Mars opposite Ceres 0.42

DAVISON

SN conjunct Mars 1.57
NN conjunct URanus 0.32


Saturn conjunct Juno 0.49

Mercury ooposite Venus 1.50
Mercury conjunct Juno 1.52

Jupiter conjunct Moon 0.45

BML conjunct Moon 2.05

Juno opposite Saturn 1.15


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posted March 08, 2016 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 08, 2016 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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(Venus conjunct ASC 2.44 - really you force me to leave THAT out?)

That's not the only thing I'd leave out, lol. But thanks for sharing. That SN-Saturn smell like crap.

Vajra, no need to sweat but if you come up with something I'll be glad.

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posted March 08, 2016 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
III. The June-concert
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Well I THOUGHT my mission had been accomplished, somehow manoevered myself out of the weirdish corner, and established that normal performer-audience (yes we actually can admit we have seen each other before by giving small hints of recognition)- connection. Sure I had to also come to the conclusion that if I thought there had been *something* some kind of spark between us, it must have been my imagination, and after several weeks - okay, months- processing that, I was in balance again. I was actually okay with it, knowing I probably never even had left an impression and he was simply being a nice audience-oriented performer (even then it sounded hollow in my ears, but anyway).

And well I was in balance (he obviously was engaged, and I was -almost-okay with it, at least I could accept things as they were), and then he has to go and mess up this whole concert, resulting in him blurting out he was messing up his songs and couldn`t quite focus because I was driving him crazy.

He could have dropped a bomb into the audience, at least that`s how it felt to me, and judging from the expression of his soon-to-be-wife-and-mother-of-his-child(ren) as well.

I think her loathing of me must have started then.
And me? Most of all I was angry and mad with him for daring to say this. I mean it`s true. I very rarely throw a tantrum, but I did so when I came home. The whole program, my poor brothers.

Oh and above it all so he once again managed to shake my balance, and once again I had to question my perspective, my perception of how things are or were. Damn it! And it made the connection once again weird, because of course we never spoke about that.
Well he probably was joking anyway (I guess it was also a joke when he approached me that occasion 2 months later, but anyway, have not used that event in my list here)


COMPOSITE
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MC conjunct MC 1.21
MC conjunct Astraea 1.48

Vertex conjunct Vertex 0.43

Saturn conjunct MC 1.03
Saturn conjunct AStraea 1.30

Venus conjunct IC 1.55

Jupiter conjunct Moon 0.05

Uranus oposite Pluto 0.41


DAVISON

ASC conjunct ASC 0.54
MC conjunct MC 0.49
Vertex conjunct Vertex 0.39

Saturn conjunct MC 1.07

Venus conjunct IC 0.14

Mars conjunct Pluto 1.11

Jupiter conjunct MOon 2.09

Pluto conjunct ASC 0.53

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posted March 08, 2016 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
That SN-Saturn smell like crap.

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Nah, not crap. My parents have that in their synastry.

It makes me laugh though as Tr Saturn was conjunct his n NN exact the day he met me.
Well maybe crap for him, he`s got something to learn I guess.

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posted March 08, 2016 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IV. The Gathering last august
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Well I probably wouldn`t even have attended (because I am shy I thought) if he had not "ordered" me to come.
I was curious.

And well I guess I told a lot about that one, it was fun. Great communication actually. Maybe I was a little too much on display and him a little too focused on whatever I was doing or didn`t do. But yeah, it was fun.


COMPOSITE

ASC conjunct Venus 0.05

IC conjunct Juno 1.31

Vertex conjunct Vertex 1.31

Mercury opposite Ceres 0.08
(yeah talking about food)

Uranus conjunct SN 0.33

Astraea oposite Venus 1.33


DAVISON

ASC conjunct ASC 2.14

MC conjunct MC 1.58

NN conjunct Ceres 0.41

Vertex conjunct Vertex 1.35

Uranus conjunct SN 1.44
Uranus conjunct Astraea 1.01

Pluto conjunct ASC 0.26

Astraea conjunct DESC 0.46


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posted March 08, 2016 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And just because it is fun loooking these up, the transits for the concert 2 weeks ago


COMPOSITE

DESC conjunct Vertex 2.00

MC conjunct Mercury 0.36
IC conjunct Neptune 1.24

SN conjunct Ceres 1.32

Saturn conjunct Mercury 1.25
Saturn conjunct NEptune 0.35

BML conjunct NN 0.09

Juno conjunct MC 1.30
Juno conjunct Astraea 1.03

Pluto conjunct Venus 0.49

Astraea conjunct Avx 1.23
Astraea conjunct Saturn 1.46


DAVISON

DESC conjunct Vertex 2.00

IC conjunct Mercury 2.01
IC conjunct Jupiter 0.23
MC conjunct Neptune 2.11

Saturn opposite Merucry 1.19
Saturn opposite Jupiter 1.12
Saturn conjunct Neptune 1.22

Venus opposite Saturn 1.20

BML conjunct NN 1.19
BML opposite Astraea 1.26

Juno conjunct Juno 0.22

Uranus conjunct Astraea 1.01

Astraea conjunct Vertex 1.19


Hmm what is more fitting? Davison or composite transits? I can`t decide, I think both are very telling and fitting.

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