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yungang_grotto
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posted March 12, 2016 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm wondering if my perception of Juno--as exacting hyper critical militantly-yet-unsuccessfully monogamous model of relationship-as-edifice--might possibly be coloured at all by my natal Juno in Virgo in the 10th.

Ok obviously it is.

So I'm having a midlife Juno crisis and looking for what's true and real for other folks in terms of their Juno placements because my perception is seriously affectedby:

Progressed South Node conjunct progressed Juno right now, which will be set off my next solar return by transiting North Node and conjunct angles in that return chart. Big news next year for me. Anyway.

The point is.. do you see Juno in your chart as what you ACTUALLY want in relationships? Or what society tells you you should think you want? I guess I'm personally struggling with the weight of my Juno karma this time around and need some pithy insights and understanding.

The person I'm presently involved with has Juno karma big time too-draconic Juno conjunct natal ascendant and natal Juno conjunct draconic descendant--natal Juno square ascendant, square composite Chiron (!!! Magi says this makes a relationship nigh on impossible!), and conjunct my North Node...

So we're really hashing out the dark side of Juno together and for each of us it's part of our path and yet inimical to his basic nature--yet apparently squares to the asc/desc axis act like nodal squares in that they DEMAND to be dealt with--and integrated (??).

For me obsessive relating is second nature as it's conjunct my SN. I do see Juno as manifesting her shadow in the following ways:

Keeping a partnership as the highest priority even when it is not fulfilling or loyal

Acting out and lashing out in order to get needs met, selfishly and without regard for other parts of the psyche (because we need to remember myths aren't literal; when Juno attacks and transforms her competitors/the other women into animals etc this mirrors an aspect of our own psyche which is denigrating free love and relating spontaneously, as well as upholding patriarchal models which blame the victim of rape for their own harming... so internally we are propping up these stories and shutting down parts of ourselves which do not fit the rigid partnership script)

I guess I'm wondering since it's my South Node whether I'm most likely to manifest these base qualities and whether I'm moving away from or seeking to integrate Juno in healthy ways... or something completely different and a more esoteric reading of the meaning of the nodes which is that Juno is a basic psychic element of my make up and the end point of that which the NN had consumed and processed.

I see that my Juno acts somewhat unconsciously, like the dragons tail too...

Any thoughts or personal experiences most welcome.

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posted March 12, 2016 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really dont know how to answer this because i dont understand what youre trying to say.

There is no such thing as multiple truths when it comes to facts, only one truth. Either something is correct or it isnt, and if we all have a differnet idea of what that is we cant all be right. Do you mean opinions? Opinions arent the same thing as the truth or facts though.

Tha aside your post reads more like you trying to force yourself to go along with something you just dont want to do, and pathologizing your resistance to it. Like "if i dont want to do this then it means im selfish oe some other negative adjective"

Im going to be honest, when im bored and have time to kill ive seen your posts and honestly i think youre driving yourself nuts trying to hold onto someone thats obsessed with someone else and should just throw him over. I bet if the situation was reversed he wouldnt put up with this crap from you.

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posted March 12, 2016 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I'm pathologizing openly but I'm pathologizing the actual unhealthy behaviour not my resistance to it. I don't think I'm bad I'm talking about Juno's pathological tendencies broadly as well as how they apply in my chart.

I'm also perfectly aware of what I've been putting up with--lol... you have no idea!--and moving into a place where I'm standing up for myself not out of desire for approval but because I'm exhausted and tired of the games... as well as realizing I only want to be with someone who actually makes me happy/challenges me constructively. Which this person does. You may be bored and think you know what's going on with us but without truly close readings of my posts I can see how you should come to that conclusion--and honestly I just got off the phone with him and am shifting into release-mode... Beginning to look at the synastry in past tense even though he is still over every day... and though we do a good job of circumventing them i need to play my part actively in avoiding power plays of any kind.

If you were actually doing a close read of our relationship you would likely notice that the karmic ties between us preclude merely "throwing him over"--it's not that simple although I am erecting more healthy boundaries. I truly care about him as a person. Not just as a potential spouse; I think pigeon holing people into "with me or against me" is also part of Juno's shadow..

I'm only truly deeply interested in loving relationships so I'm exploring my own attachments to monogamous relationships which don't emphasize true respect and love and equality. I can see that my post is nuanced and difficult to understand. I'm not asking for absolute truths but rather seeking people's subjective opinions and personal truths/perceptions of truth about Juno to help clarify my own stance on her overall energy and meaning.

I realize too that ascribing all of this to Juno is a gross over simplification but we must start somewhere and exploring certain Astral bodies helps me with that.

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posted March 12, 2016 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you know I'm coming to realize you're probably right in that last paragraph though.

Even though I'm able to distinguish between his pain fueled semi-delusional/partly beautiful and understandable script and what has to do with me personally (he has a pattern of wanting thatwhich he cannot have and ttormenting himself, this goes back maaaany years)-- the fact remains that as his friend I amto some extent enabling a lot of behaviour that us destructive to him--and seriously why would I beg for someone who doesn't want me?

He apologizes profusely for every implying that he actually wants to end it--classic Saturn conjunct Ascendant synastry according to Arroyo; Saturn seems to be the boss and makes the ascendant run around but turns into a whimpering needy child as soon as the ascendant is fed up and tries to leave.

However I need to take him at his word when he aays he doesn't want it and have a frank conversation with him about things like gratitude and following your heart.

If you're here every night it should be because you want to--100%. Anything else is dishonest and a waste of your precious warrior spirit. Don't settle for me! I'm not going to settle for someone who is half way out the door!

He knows this stuff though. He is torn. He is tormented. He is a complex being with Venus c. CHIRON

I'm not taking the relationship lightly or looking at it as one sided. It is multi dimensional and deeply important to both of us.

All that said there is a growing faction of my being saying

"No fear. Do not beg. Stand up for what you need. Say the truth as you see it. There's nothing to lose!"

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posted March 12, 2016 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aaand yeah maybe I'm unnecessarily pathologizing Juno. I mean she's great.. there are great things about her. Admittedly feeling a little jaded today.

She is trine Saturn in my chart after all, and complements my ascendant/descendant. I have it in me to have a proper Juno Thang. But... it's not all roses... yanno...

Ok breakthrough:

My Juno needs to express itself responsibly and be a fighter for justice and equality rather than raging against forces which seem insurmountable, and act like the Queen that she is, not some sidelined b throwing hissy fits.

If i want a proper relationship with this guy or anyone I need to step up my Juno and demand nothing other than complete worship... lol... i mean equality.

My Juno completes a Kite for him; his Mars completes the same kite for my chart. His incomplete Kite involves Neptune, Saturn-Pluto and Mars. My Kite involves Vesta-Asc, my Saturn-Uranus, my Juno and my descendant--which technically maybe can't complete a kite so his Mars is there to complete it. Pretty cute Mars-Juno stuff going on there I guess.

But I need to fill big shoes with my Juno here. And he needs to step up his Mars (conjunct our composite North Node, no less).

If it can't work I will let it go though, guaranteed. I've fought for justice in the past and lost--I cut my losses then and I will do so again if necessary.

I'm a warrior too! meow.

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posted March 13, 2016 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LullabyGal3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
The point is.. do you see Juno in your chart as what you ACTUALLY want in relationships? Or what society tells you you should think you want?

Hi yungang_grotto

From my own experience, Juno is in my 5th in Leo which means that I should like/need a partner who is very playful and encourages/inspires me creatively. In my case, this is true of my current partner. As I am intense and work in the art industry, I do indeed benefit these characteristics of his.

His Juno is in his 7th in Scorpio which means he wants/needs someone who is emotionally intense. Someone he can rely on to be there for him. However, the 7th house placement can also indicate being dependent on the partner and this a rough one for us as he is scared to death of commitment and needing someone emotionally etc.

In both cases,he matches the type of person Juno chooses for me and I match the one chosen for him - which is not to say it is an easy ride by any means. It's not for us. there much more to consider in a chart.

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posted March 13, 2016 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sag Juno in the 4th house. I can only imagine myself with a foreigner and ideally he'd be somewhat Sagittarian. I don't want marriage, children and the white fence so I'm not sure what the house position stands for here. Maybe it's about the deep connection that is the only thing I could go for. Maybe it's the privacy I'd want to keep. Maybe it's about me wanting to live in a bubble with my hypothetical boyfriend. Maybe it's about wanting someone similar to me.

Ignore the thumb down, I don't know how it got there.

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posted March 13, 2016 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I'm wondering if my perception of Juno--as exacting hyper critical militantly-yet-unsuccessfully monogamous model of relationship-as-edifice--might possibly be coloured at all by my natal Juno in Virgo in the 10th.

Ok obviously it is.


I think Juno shows who we commit to and what we need in order to feel happy and fulfilled doing so (other aspects in our charts might show where we are willing to be a little more experimental, or philosophical about relating). Some people bring out extremes in us, but that doesn't change that we need what we need.

10th house Juno here, and my partner has to share mt commitment to our partnership and advancement as a team. Together we share a sense of purpose, a goal, a project, even if the project is cultivating love. It's a focused partnership. No room for distraction. 10th house Juno may love someone who is distracted, but she really needs a partner who is all in, obsessed with progress and growth in the same way she is. The 10th house is Saturn's house.

The negative manifestation of Juno isn't in recognizing your needs, it's in denying them.

My Juno is in Gemini (western). The sign seems to point to the type of men I commit to- brilliant in one way or another. Successful relationships always involve strong positive Mercury connections. And I read once that Gem Juno points to multiple marriages. Here.

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posted March 13, 2016 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, Yungang,

Those are very valid questions you have..
I was wondering something along similar lines - how did Juno even come to be associated with the "spouse" or "the one you commit to" archetype? Her connotation in Roman mythology is quite different. At the very least, tangential. Also, was wondering if Hera might not be a better choice for the whole *spouse* thing..

Re: Your OP, I'm not sure what you mean by the dark side of Juno. Well, to be honest I'm not sure about the meaning of Juno to begin with. But maybe those Karmic struggles have to do with other factors? I don't know any except the one talked about here - pr Juno conjunct pr South Node. IMO, that's the thing dredging up your spouse/mate/partner issues that need to be worked through.

P.S. I do *identify* with my Juno, in so far as it does describe the qualities I'd look for in a spouse.

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posted March 13, 2016 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
how did Juno even come to be associated with the "spouse" or "the one you commit to" archetype? Her connotation in Roman mythology is quite different.

Not really, no. Queen of the gods. Wife of Jupiter; and even though he cheated on her left and right (after 300 years of honeymoon), she never left him but upheld the institution of marriage (except for some "time-outs" when she temporarily left and then he went after her to make her come back.


What Roman myths do you hint at here?
Something that predates the Olympic Gods?
I am really curious, cause I have never come across any other mentioning of her as the oftentimes vindicative, yet powerful and protective wife of Jupiter, who was hounouring their commitment, even if he did not. And of course their legendary fights and her taking revenge on his affairs. And apart from that being protector of women, marriage and childbirth.

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posted March 13, 2016 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
I think Juno shows who we commit to and what we need in order to feel happy and fulfilled doing so (other aspects in our charts might show where we are willing to be a little more experimental, or philosophical about relating). Some people bring out extremes in us, but that doesn't change that we need what we need.

10th house Juno here, and my partner has to share mt commitment to our partnership and advancement as a team. Together we share a sense of purpose, a goal, a project, even if the project is cultivating love. It's a focused partnership. No room for distraction. 10th house Juno may love someone who is distracted, but she really needs a partner who is all in, obsessed with progress and growth in the same way she is. The 10th house is Saturn's house.

The negative manifestation of Juno isn't in recognizing your needs, it's in denying them.

My Juno is in Gemini (western). The sign seems to point to the type of men I commit to- brilliant in one way or another. Successful relationships always involve strong positive Mercury connections. And I read once that Gem Juno points to multiple marriages. Here.


Thank you. I really needed to hear this.

Sometimes I'm clearer on Juno's meaning than others. Of course you're right that denying my needs is a negative manifestation of Juno.

I also feel very strong drive to have a project together and to make things happen and our relationship took a real turn the day of the Eclipse because he said he didn't have the energy to come out and start helping me with this land project... I need to own the fact that I want a partner who will walk this path with me of really accomplishing things in the world. Thank you so much for your insights and sharing your placement and El experiences. Really helps me clarify my own needs and validate them.

It's true what was said though, this is a South Node issue for me I'm just having trouble discerning how to navigate it's power in my life. I do feel better in the 4th house in Pisces, doing deep inner spiritual work on my own (Diana and Hekate are there on my NN to support me :love . So yeah... but his Juno conjunct my North Node is just another confusion at this moment but I'm working it out.

I really appreciate this forum. I really needed clarity and I deeply appreciate the sharing and astrological understanding folks have. Thanks for listening to my struggles to understand. I don't have it all together but you really help me figure it out

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posted March 13, 2016 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I definitely think Juno says a lot about the type of partner I need. I have it in my 4th in Aqua.
I get a little nauseaus when I think about 2.5 kids, living in the suburbs and having a conventional mundane life. It's weird though because at the same time I do need a certain amount of stability. I find myself needing lots of space in my partnerships and keeping things exciting. I don't want to succumb to an ordinary life. I need my partner to get me intellectually too and to understand my quirkiness.
Hope this helps x

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posted March 14, 2016 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Not really, no. Queen of the gods. Wife of Jupiter; and even though he cheated on her left and right (after 300 years of honeymoon), she never left him but upheld the institution of marriage (except for some "time-outs" when she temporarily left and then he went after her to make her come back.


What Roman myths do you hint at here?
Something that predates the Olympic Gods?
I am really curious, cause I have never come across any other mentioning of her as the oftentimes vindicative, yet powerful and protective wife of Jupiter, who was hounouring their commitment, even if he did not. And of course their legendary fights and her taking revenge on his affairs. And apart from that being protector of women, marriage and childbirth.


Yes, that *standing by him* surely does support the theory - thanks! I'm not contesting it, just trying to understand. More data is more welcome always.

What I meant was, that in Roman mythology, she is more of a military goddess and fertility goddess who protected her people. Associated with the spirit of youthfulness and vigour. The fertility goddess role might play into the spouse thing, in a way.
Doesn't her Greek counterpart Hera, seems more suited to be symbolism of marriage? Well, she was after all, the goddess of women and marriage..

Yeah, Juno was Jupiter's wife. But also his sister, while Hera was not. Not to discriminate between types of spouses - but if we are to pick an ideal, wouldn't it be the non-related spouse?

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posted March 14, 2016 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe juno describes the type of person you look for in a husband/wife. Your ideal wife/husband. Consider the sign, house, ruler of the sign, and ANY aspects it is making to any of the planets in your natal horoscope AS this WILL tell you AND describe you the TYPE of partner you tend to always attract in committed relationships.

In my experience juno says quite a lot about what I want in a life partner for instance the guy I like right now he matches my JUNO 100%. Even though he is not making aspects to my juno, his natal chart RESEMBLES OR MIRRORS MY JUNO plus it's overlaying his first house

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posted March 14, 2016 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have never really heard about Juno being a fertility goddess (there are others for that); she IS the patroness of childbirth, but that is the actual process of birthing not procreation. I think she herself had only 2 kids on her own, too, which was few for mythological stories. But I Am not completely sure about that.
She is however a powerful figure who tries to empower women (well unless they sleep with her husband or are being raped by him, they were not all very consenting) and was mingling into the Trojan war of course, and her on is Mars, so go figure.

As for the sister-spouse, I actually think it makes more sense as it is yet another bond that ties Jupiter and Juno together, for better or worse. You might be able to get a divorce, but you cannot un-be a sibling. Ever.
It also just shows that there is something they have in common, as myths are to be taken symbolic of course, and it shows that she is his equal, even though she has to constantly fight about that and assert herself in relation to him.
I think what we see in the myth is the transition into a patriarchic society (as compared to the matriarchy that preceded that one) and it is symbolized in their marriage-fights.

What is also rarely mentioned is that Jupiter was completely besotted with Juno, but she wouldn`t sleep with him until he agreed to marry her, which he did, so he could have intercourse with her. And then they had a honeymoon that lasted 300 years. Their real problems started when they had to return to society and deal with the demands of everyday life and other people, which is when Jupiter started his philandering ways and she became the epitome of a jealous vindicative wife.

However even then WHEN she has had it and left him, he was running after her to get her back and actually did so by a trick, they got back together, had another nice honeymoon period and then the whole cycle started again.
The typical "I can`t live with you and can`t live without yuo" type of marriage I guess. lol

I sort of have a soft spot for them, though.

Also Hera might be interesting but she is paired with Zeus not Jupiter, I wouldn`t mix them up.


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Juno is the archetype of "wife" in Roman mythology and she is the Roman equivalent of Hera. Just like Hera, she is the goddess of marriage and marital love, and even love and marriage in general. And everything Ceri says.

She has several facets (attributes, roles): Juno Sospita, Caprotina, Curitis, Moneta, Regina, but this is her primary role.

"Juno and Jupiter


The divine couple received from Greece its matrimonial implications, thence bestowing on Juno the role of tutelary goddess of marriage (Iuno Pronuba).

The couple itself though cannot be reduced to a Greek apport. The association of Juno and Jupiter is of the most ancient Latin theology.[133] Praeneste offers a glimpse into original Latin mythology: the local goddess Fortuna is represented as nursing two infants, one male and one female, namely Jove (Jupiter) and Juno.[134] It seems fairly safe to assume that from the earliest times they were identified by their own proper names and since they got them they were never changed through the course of history: they were called Jupiter and Juno. These gods were the most ancient deities of every Latin town."


In astrology, Juno represents the wife and Jupiter the husband, on this level. Nowadays, the wife and husband archetype applies to any long-term, marital-type relationship. Traditionally, in a woman's chart, we can look at Jupiter to get a glimpse of the husband (most important partner) and for a man to see what kind of husband/long-term partner he makes. The same for Juno, in reverse. But we also look at Juno now to see the marital partner archetype for both genders.
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posted March 20, 2016 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Yeah, Lee. I read that exact thing on Wikipedia.

I may not be entirely convinced about the background, but do like how it all ties together, in the meaning of Juno.
And, TBH, I do identify with my natal Juno.

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posted March 20, 2016 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for this, LeeLoo! It helps a great deal in calming my errant mind to read things like this.

I observe Juno's influence in transits, chart comparisons, and in my own chart frequently... I'm interested in her transiting behavior right now because i started dating my guy when she was where she will be when she stations direct again in the summer I believe. And it's interesting to see her going over the same ground we've traveled already, squaring Venus, approaching Pluto and the Nodes, etc., a second time, as if to say: "ok you thought it was like this the first time around but here are the deeper implications and let's work on that again"...

as I said, sometimes I view Juno with greater or less clarity. Posted this at a low point!

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posted March 26, 2016 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sccs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Juno conjuct lilith in H4 in scorpio.
I guess it very much sum up what I need and want in a guy/relationship and my behavior towards it!

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I have Juno in Sag in my 5H. It is conjunct my Vertex. She makes only two other aspects, an EXACT opposition to Psche and sesisquare my NN.

I feel like I was meant to be a wife. I've felt that way since I was very young.

As for representing my ideal partner: yes, I need someone who is playful and creative. A man that loves children, music, and art as much as I do. A man that wants to explore and travel and learn everything there is to know.

He also needs to be able to answer the question "What's wong, love?" Able to express his emotions and verbalize his feelings. I can't deal with pent-up frustrations and hidden hurts. My Pisces Sun picks up on everything that isn't said and it hurts my heart to not know what is going on in the mind and heart of my SO. I think this need is expressed by the opposition to Psyche.

I'm having a very hard time with my infant marriage because of these needs not being met.. I feel like I made a mistake. A terrible, terrible mistake that I should have fled from. *sigh*

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posted March 28, 2016 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LionFish That makes me so sad to read.

And yungang, I'm sorry for your troubles too.

Why can't love be easy?

Oh I remember that song lyric I heard today in the grocery store...

Happily ever after fails and we've been poisoned by these fairy tales....

Pardon the cynicism, it's just a mood I get into...not permanent.

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The point is.. do you see Juno in your chart as what you ACTUALLY want in relationships?

I have Juno in Virgo and historically I am just a total sucker for Virgo energy. Every major relationship I've been in was with a guy with Virgo planets.

This sign does something to me that no other sign can do. *head in hands despair* because anything that conjuncts my Juno forms a t-square with my moon and Mars. It's never been easy. It never even works, except with my husband, but even that is hard. His Jupiter in Virgo, by the way..with Mercury and Venus.

Edit - Got off track

It's not the characteristics of Virgo that I could even list, it's not like I just need someone who is organized and clean and service-oriented...there is a soulful quality that just feels like it belongs in my life, but supplied from the outside.

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posted March 29, 2016 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LionFish That makes me so sad to read.

Don't be sad for me, Faith! It hurts and it makes me feel like maybe if I just tried harder it would be better... But I don't know how much harder I can try. At the same time, though, I'm proud of myself being able to recognize that I'm not being loved in a way that resonates with my wants and needs and instead of just putting up with it, I'm gathering the strength to deal with it. Properly. Instead of running to someone else to protect me from the hurt. I plan to face it head on because it will make me stronger.

I know it will be heart-wrenching, but I can't not feel anything from the person who is supposed to love me and place me above all else.. since we have no children. He doesn't speak my love language.

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Oh I remember that song lyric I heard today in the grocery store...

Happily ever after fails and we've been poisoned by these fairy tales....

Pardon the cynicism, it's just a mood I get into...not permanent.

I have Juno in Virgo and historically I am just a total sucker for Virgo energy. Every major relationship I've been in was with a guy with Virgo planets.

This sign does something to me that no other sign can do. *head in hands despair* because anything that conjuncts my Juno forms a t-square with my moon and Mars. It's never been easy. It never even works, except with my husband, but even that is hard. His Jupiter in Virgo, by the way..with Mercury and Venus.

Edit - Got off track

It's not the characteristics of Virgo that I could even list, it's not like I just need someone who is organized and clean and service-oriented...there is a soulful quality that just feels like it belongs in my life, but supplied from the outside.


It's your Pisces Moon, along with your Virgo Juno! I adore Virgo Venus and Moons with all my heart

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^ Yeah I love those placements, too. Though I resent them sometimes as well, as in, How dare you have this power over me???

But that's just my icy Capricorn heart talking.

Best wishes with your husband...any chance it's just a transit though? I see you are sparking with a new colleague...does that just make your chemistry with your husband pale in comparison a bit?

Marriage can be such a kill-joy.

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Originally posted by Faith:

Marriage can be such a kill-joy.


Non-marriage, too.

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