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posted March 13, 2016 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which synastry aspects would indicate powerful romantic attraction? Please include gender with placement if that's important.

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posted March 14, 2016 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Reposting from here for our Romantic Comdoc
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000398-2.html

"My view on this:

Rule number 1 (for me): personal love planets (Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars) have to be aspected at some extent (although there are exceptions - synastries that defy this and go directly to rule number 2)

Rule number 2: everyone has their personalized love planets (feeling planets and bunga bunga planets) and these MUST be aspected by general love planets and/or the other's personalized love planets.


General romantic aspects:

Sun/Moon - Yin/Yang archetype, all-inclusive

Venus/Mars - Yin/Yang archetype, romantic and bunga bunga

Sun/Venus - in practice, it is not a romantic aspect per se, it shows mutual appreciation/beauty/friendship/unconditional love, but it can be very romantic

Moon/Venus - very romantic

Moon/Mars - bunga bunga hot attraction lot of babies Yin/Yang can be romantic babymaking love quarrels ending in bed etc.

Moon/Pluto - deep compulsive love, an archetype, bunga bunga and romantic, can become deep hatred or unrequited

Venus/Pluto - similar with the above, but not quite: a love archetype, can be an unrequited aspect as well

Venus/Neptune - classic and very romantic aspect

Venus/Uranus - can be very romantic and bunga bunga, read the myth, also a possible unrequited/separative aspect

Mars/Pluto - very hot bunga bunga

Mars/Neptune - hot bunga bunga with lots of fantasies, can be romantic

Moon/Saturn - a marital archetype


All the other combinations between these planets can become romantic/bunga if they are personal love planets.

Any of the above aspects, in isolation, can be part of a good friendship.

Sun/Sun and Moon/Moon aspects are also very important for mutual attraction, no matter the aspect. Venus/Venus Mars/Mars etc. are a bonus in a good romantic synastry."

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posted March 14, 2016 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From my romantic heart, thanks for the link and repost, LeeLoo.

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Lol @ bunga bunga

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posted March 14, 2016 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I delight in the erotic and exotic! Powerful Uranus co-ruler of 7H.

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Lol @ bunga bunga

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posted March 14, 2016 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For a truly powerful romantic attraction there are two main factors which need to be present in the synastry...

1. The first factor needed for a truly powerful romantic attraction is synastry aspects which provide a basis for basic physical attraction. Physical attraction is a pretty important part of romantic attraction, but not the only factor needed.

Yin/Yang aspects allow the couple to experience basic physical attraction, as well as male/female polarity. Male/female polarity increases the pull on an emotional/psychological level, where one partner initiates and one receives. These aspects tend to deepen the bond between men and women, even if the women has the masculine planet, and the guy has the feminine planet. There’s still the energy of polarity there between them. Although the courtship might be a bit non-traditional with her chasing a bit more, and him being on the receiving end a bit more. The Yin/Yang attraction aspects are Sun/Moon, Sun/Venus, Mars/Venus, and Mars/Moon.

Some other non-yin/yang aspects can also indicate basic physical attraction (but not necessarily polarity)... These are Sun/Mars aspects (raw energy), Pluto in aspect to Sun, Moon, Venus, or Mars (intimate, haunting effect). And sometimes Uranus in aspect to Venus or Mars (adds fascination with the other's attractive qualities). There is some argument that Venus/Uranus can also be considered a Yin/Yang aspect because Uranus is masculine, and Venus is feminine. Pluto, on the other hand, seems to be about the union between male/female itself rather then either male or female energy. The 8th house is symbolically about union after marriage where consummation takes place, and resources are combined. Pluto aspects are about intimacy in partnerships.

2. The second factor needed for a truly powerful romantic attraction is that the person is our 'type'. Liking the way someone looks, and having yin/yang polarity with them is all very well and good. But to really fall in love more is needed. The person has to press certain buttons in our psyche to switch on those falling in love type feelings. They need to match some profile we have inside our minds as to what constitutes our 'ideal mate'. This can be done in several ways…

2A. The person puts planets in our 5th (romantic sparks), 7th (affection), or 8th houses (intimacy). Or they aspect the rulers of these houses strongly. Or Both.

Aspects that create physical attraction in synastry only do half the job. Falling in love also requires psychological/ideological chemistry. Synastry aspects to the 5th, 7th, and 8th, house rulers in our chart, or planets in these houses, switch on the areas in our psyche that pertain to romantic sparks, partnership/affection, and intimacy. This enables us to view the other person as a potential match for us, rather then just another person out there that looks good. The person can become 'special' in our minds when these buttons are hit. In fact, 5th, 7th, and 8th house ruler synastry, and overlays, are what I think activates romantic attraction if the potential for it already exists in regular interplanetary synastry.

For instance, while it’s true that yin/yang aspects indicate physical attraction, it’s also true that sometimes we can share a yin/yang aspect with someone and not be attracted to them romantically at all. What’s the difference? If the person has a yin/yang aspect with us but their natal chart overall does not resonate with our romantic taste (shown by the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, and sometimes a few other factors to be mentioned latter), then the yin/yang aspect we share with them may remain inactivated. This means the yin/yang aspect will only be expressed in a platonic way as is sometimes seen between friends and co-workers who share these aspects. What activates physical attraction aspects, and turns them romantic in nature, is when the person in question is our type in some way or another. One of the things that activates physical attraction aspects in a romantic way (in my observation) is 5th, 7th, and 8th house ruler aspects, and overlays. Keeping in mind, overlays to the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses work best if they also aspect something else in our chart from their position. Interaspects to our chart from overlaying planets are important because they allow us the feel the energy of that planet in our relationship house in a very real sense. If the overlaying planet does not aspect our chart there’s a chance we won’t notice or respond to it.

2B. The symbolism of our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses is also important because this show the personality traits we tend to be most attracted to. We often attract partners who have charts that reflect this symbolism. I call this symbolism matching. For instance, if you have Taurus on the 5th ruled by Venus in Aries. Cancer on the 7th with Moon in Virgo, and Mars in Leo in the 7th, and Leo on the 8th ruled by Sun Taurus.... Don't be surprised if you fall for an Aries Sun/Venus, with Taurus Moon, Virgo rising, and Mars in Cancer, where that Taurus Moon falls into the 5th house (the Leo house). And those Aries planets fall onto the 4th house (the Cancer house). Symbolism matches like these to the 5th, 7th, and 8th house symbolism in our chart makes the person act in a way that attracts us. When someone acts like our type this increases the power of our attraction to them. Strong symbolism matches like this are one of the factors that can activate romantic attraction, if we already have physical attraction aspects present in the synastry.

An important thing to remember about the 5th, 7th, and 8th house attraction pattern is that matches need to be mutual between partners in order for the attraction to be mutual. This goes for house ruler synastry, overlays, and symbolism with the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses. If partner A shows in partner B’s chart, but partner B does not show in partner A’s chart, then the attraction may be unrequited from partner A’s side. The physical attraction synastry aspects may remain inactivated for partner A, but be activated for partner B resulting in lop-sided attraction. If both partners show in each other’s relationship houses then we have a happy ending.

2C. The secondary 7th house. Okay, so the theory goes that if we look at the sign on the 7th house, and then look at the house the Dsc sign traditionally rules, this tells us more detail about what we look for in partnerships. If you have an Aquarius Dsc the 11th house shows more about the type of partner you'll chooses (added to what we already know based on the 7th house). If you have a Taurus Dsc, then the 2nd house will tell you more about your partner, and so on. This house called the secondary 7th house, because it adds extra info to what we already know based on the original 7th house. If your partner puts planets in this house, or aspects the ruler of this house, or has a chart that matches the symbolism of this house, it will help increase your attraction to them.

2D. This is similar to the secondary 7th house. Venus in the chart represents the beautiful young maiden, while Mars represents the dashing young man. These are the key plants involved in what is beginning part of the relationship where we court and fall in love. These planets detail how we look at gender, and what courting behavior we like from the opposite sex. The signs and houses of these planets are important, but like with the 7th house, we can glean more details about this using secondary houses.

If the partner is a man, the house ruled by his Venus sign will show extra details about the sort of behavior he likes on women (added to what we already know about his preferences based on the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses). If his Venus is in Gemini, not only will he like Gemini/Mercurial energy, but his 3rd house will also reveal some more qualities that make up his 'type'. Women with planets in his 3rd house or who match the symbolism of his 3rd house will attract him like Venus. If his Sun is in the 3rd, he may be attracted to women with Leo planets for instance.

If the partner is a women, the house ruled by her Mars sign shows the type of behavior she likes on men (added to what we already know about her preferences based on the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses). If her Mars is in Virgo, not only will she like sharp, hardworking, intelligent guys, but she'll also be attracted to the qualities of her 6th house. If she has Scorpio on the 6th house cusp, she may be attracted to men with Scorpio planets or a strong Pluto in his chart.

2F. The Vertex Axis. If a partner puts planets on your Vertex or Antivertex this gives the relationship a vibe to it like it was meant to happen. There’s an exciting synchronicity between you. Conjunctions to the Vertex mean the partner surprises you in some way with what they bring into your life, and it rocks your world. Conjunctions to the Antivertex mean the partner brings you what you’ve been yearning for all along, and you get what you were looking for. Both experiences can feel profound. When you add Vertex Axis aspects to an already existing attraction it adds something extra meaningful to the relationship. The most impactful romances you’ll have will typically involve Vertex Axis aspects for this reason… However, keep an eye on the rulers of the Vertex and Anitvertex too. If conjunctions to the Axis itself are missing maybe the partner is connecting with the rulers. Conjunctions are the strongest again. Although, I’ve noticed that all aspect to the Vertex Axis and it’s rulers have an effect, it’s just that the conjunctions are strongest.

2G. Juno. This asteroid is said to behave similar to the 7th house and to describe what we are looking for in a relationship, as well as some qualities that we are looking for in the partner. Juno tends to be more hard core then the 7th house and Venus, in that there’s very practical attitude involved here. Juno describes our deal breakers for what we need, rather then just our preferences for what we like. We seem to require the partner to fulfill our Juno symbolism rather then just want them to. If the partner aspects your Juno, or matches the symbolism of your Juno, this describes how they fit your no-nonsense, bottom line, relationship needs. Juno describes the type of person that you find reassuring because they make you feel safe in the relationship. You sense they’re able to offer what you need, and you’re attracted by that. Juno is also associated with adornment. So connections with Juno can also show that the partner attracts your eye, or meets your approval, with how they present themselves.

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In conclusion, the most powerful romantic attractions involve a combination of the person sharing physical attraction synastry with us, and them also matching ‘our type’ as is shown in our natal chart (5th, 7th, and 8th houses, secondary 7th house, Venus and Mars by sign/house and secondary houses, Juno, and to some extent the Vertex Axis conjunctions) . A fated (Vertex Axis) vibe to the relationship also can make the connection feel extra significant to us.

I also feel that I’ve left something out by not including the Sun and Moon when it comes to gender based attraction. Venus and Mars symbolism is associated with the courtship/falling in love phase of the relationship, but Sun and Moon symbolism seems to be more associated with husband/father and wife/mother roles. These planets are connected with the deeper emotional connection that happens later in the relationship rather then wild romantic attraction. Still, to some extent all women admire the qualities of her Sun on a man (Not just her Sun sign, but also the house and aspects of her Sun), and all men are drawn to the vulnerability of their Moon qualities on a women (Not just his Moon sign, but also the house and aspects of his Moon). Symbolism matches to a man’s Moon, or a women’s Sun can also help increase attraction.

The major players in romantic attraction though, apart form physical attraction aspects, are the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, then the gender planets, then the Vertex Axis, and then Juno and perhaps some other relevant love asteroids. In that order in terms of priority. The relationship houses tend to be most crucial in determining our type, and then everything else kind of follows along with that.

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posted March 15, 2016 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Lotus White,

What a stunning post! Thanks for sharing your wisdom; it's already set mental wheels in motion. I'll use those points to refine my Vortex Point of Attraction--and share what I discover.

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Wonderful post, Lotis and great emphasis of the importance of Sun and Moon in long-term attraction, especially the aspects to a man's Moon (anima) and a woman's Sun (animus) coming from the partner and being a core hit to the "inner male/female".

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posted March 16, 2016 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by comdoc:
Dear Lotus White,

What a stunning post! Thanks for sharing your wisdom; it's already set mental wheels in motion. I'll use those points to refine my Vortex of Attraction--and share what I discover.


Thanks and you're welcome!


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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Wonderful post, Lotis and great emphasis of the importance of Sun and Moon in long-term attraction, especially the aspects to a man's Moon (anima) and a woman's Sun (animus) coming from the partner and being a core hit to the "inner male/female".

Yeah, I think all Sun/Moon connections are great though. It works well with the female's Moon aspecting the male's Sun also, because then the guy gets to act out his masculine initiating role, while the women gets to act out her receptive feminine role.

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posted March 16, 2016 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Wonderful post, Lotis and great emphasis of the importance of Sun and Moon in long-term attraction, especially the aspects to a man's Moon (anima) and a woman's Sun (animus) coming from the partner and being a core hit to the "inner male/female".

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Yeah, I think all Sun/Moon connections are great though. It works well with the female's Moon aspecting the male's Sun also, because then the guy gets to act out his masculine initiating role, while the women gets to act out her receptive feminine role.

Absolutely. Here I wasn't referring to Sun/Moon contacts, which are the first best, but to the importance of having aspects of all kinds, several, to a man's Moon and a woman's Sun as a way to trigger the other's anima/animus archetype.

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posted March 16, 2016 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Moon/Asc conjunction seems to work consistently for me.

There are many people who have their Moon conjunct my Asc- even by 10 degrees- that I just "like" from the 1st meeting. And they often feel the same.

The other one is Moon/Mercury conjunct. Its not spoken about much about. But I find it potent.

Either of these two IME add an attraction that could either be platonic or romantic. But never indifference.

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posted March 16, 2016 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotis White wrote: "Yeah, I think all Sun/Moon connections are great though. It works well with the female's Moon aspecting the male's Sun also, because then the guy gets to act out his masculine initiating role, while the women gets to act out her receptive feminine role."

For me this resonates with 1st wife, one of my fave longterm romantic partners.

Her Moon 24Libra43 opp my Sun 24Aries50
trine my Moon 29Gemini51.

We were together 7 glorious years!

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posted July 20, 2022 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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