posted March 16, 2016 05:07 PM            

I'm relying on sources which give the date of 'commenced dating' which ofcourse means that the actual dating MIGHT have started a bit earlier. But let's assume it can never be that much earlier. We also flat out assume that the birth data/time of famous people are correct.

I'm *ONLY* looking at (tight) conjunctions in progressed Natal/Synastry between any of those; Sun/Moon + Asc/Desc + Venus/Mars + East/West-point (the latter to find using the Meridian house system on astro.com)
This all related to the secondary progressed realm.

Everyone can add their (personal) examples, ofcourse. But please keep it restricted to the ones I use here.
TIGHT Progressed-composite conjunctions/oppositions between any of the aforementioned are also allowed to share.

To start with the dating history of Roman Polanski.

Sharon Tate / Roman Polanski (together until her death in Aug '69)
Commenced Dating: February 1966;

Her prog Moon 22'05 Cancer
Her natal Asc 21'28 Cancer
His natal Moon 22'28 Cancer

His prog Sun 26'28 Virgo
His prog Moon 28'05 Virgo
His natal Venus 26'15 Virgo

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Emmanuelle Seigner / Roman Polanski (married until this day).
Commenced Dating: August 1988;

Her prog Sun 21'57 Cancer
His natal Moon 22'28 Cancer
His prog Moon 26'11 Cancer

His prog Venus 1'23 Sag
His prog Mars 2'04 Sag
Her natal Asc 2'53 Sag

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posted March 16, 2016 06:23 PM            

There was nothing else.

posted March 16, 2016 06:42 PM            

his pr. Sun 13 27' Pisces
my pr. Asc 13 35' Pisces

opp. his natal Mars 14 12 Virgo
opp. my natal Moon 10 56 (under 3 d)

I might add some other connections to the above later, depending on the allowed orb !

my pr. Sun 1 04 Virgo
his pr. Mars 2 48 Virgo
(my natal Vertex 0 28 Virgo : sorry I just saw you dont include vertex, but I thought this was really important and it has some sort of resonance with the East Point from my understanding)

his pr. Venus 26 42 Aries
opp. my natal Mars 24 04 Libra

I'll go and check the East Point now.

ETA : (his pr. East Point conj. my pr. IC)
my pr. EP 19 Pisces conj. his natal Venus 16 Pisces

posted March 16, 2016 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Orange, I think you're right..
I will never forget you had an exact Conversed progressed Sun/Moon conjunction at the start. Maybe at some point we have to add these too.

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posted March 16, 2016 07:30 PM            

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Ok Mar, you can find the exact progressed East/West-point degree on the additional tables. The Asc at the very bottom of that same row.

Ed@ ^ I see you already found it, so this for the ones having no clue how to find it.

^ 28'55 Cancer is the East point (28'55 Cap ofcourse then West point). The Asc shown at the bottom (using meridian house system).

Orbs.. hm, well it depends a bit on the speed of a point/planet. The prog Asc in your case moves 1 deg a year so the conj. to your natal Moon was more than 2 years ago. A bit wide then. But I get you mentioning it here because of the entire bunch.

posted March 16, 2016 08:21 PM            

Yes, I found it eventually! Thanks for the explanation anyway!

posted March 16, 2016 09:22 PM            

His prog Sun to your natal Moon is in fact the same story, it would have been exact 2 years ago. The Sun also moves 1 deg a year.

posted March 16, 2016 09:37 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
^ Okay, haven't read that thread but indeed I was confused about East and West suddenly. Without thinking the appearing degree on the additional tables has Always been EAST point (to me). But since there's also a West point and seeing the astro wheel you would assume the other way around. I think you're right.. but yea we have to be sure of this.

His prog Sun to your natal Moon is in fact the same story, it would have been exact 2 years ago. The Sun also moves 1 deg a year.

@ Ofcourse you ARE right ;D EAST = shown on the tables.

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LOL, not me, Lotis White who found the other way of tracking East Point!
I remembered because I was very fascinated by the concept of the East Point, just like I am fascinated with the vertex axis! There are some general similarities, but they are also distinctively different! Lotis has written quite a bunch about it, vertex is my little obsession in astrology!
Unfortunately, there are not so many written about the East Point, so your post got me interested anyway (without the EP in the title I mean), but when I saw the East Point inside your thread, there was absolutely NO WAY that I wouldn't participate in your research!
Thank you!

posted March 16, 2016 10:10 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Yea haha.. I see TOO many tight East/West point hits in (progressed) synastry lately to deny this axis. I have this meredian house system as default setting on astro.com for a while now to see it at a glance.

To take my own.. my progressed Venus within 1 deg applying conjunct to his East point when it all started.

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posted March 17, 2016 02:26 AM            

On first glance I did not see too much in my parent`s charts when they started seeing each other, but I think there was an equatorial ASC - ASC conjunction in their progressed composite.

posted March 17, 2016 04:08 AM            

their individual progressions:

My Mom
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pIC conjunct nMoon 0.24s
pVenus opposite nJupiter 1.02a
pVertex conjunct nWestpoint 0.08a

(pVenus solstice pMars 0.49s)
(pMars solstice pJupiter 0.24a)

my Dad
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pASC conjunct pEastPoint 1.13
pMoon conjunct nSun 2.24s
pVenus conjunct nSun 1.26a

progressed synastry
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they didn`t have any of the aspects you were looking for, instead they had (her planets first):

pMoon conjunct nIC 0.42s
pVenus conjunct pAvx 0.54s
pSaturn conjunct pMars 0.00 (!)
pPoF conjunct pIC 0.51
nJupiter conjunct pVx 1.10a
nPoF opposite pJupiter 0.08s

Additionally they had a lot of exact solstice-point-connections, I mean REALLY a lot!

posted March 17, 2016 01:04 PM            

I had

pr Venus 21 Scorpio
pr Asc 21 Scorpio
natal sun 21 Scorpio

He had

pr Sun 23 Taurus
pr Mars 28 Taurus
((pr Chiron 28 Taurus))
natal Venus 28 Taurus (too far off to be related to the Sun, but the converse progression matches up Sun and Venus for him also, closer orb (2')--but separating

((my pr. Jupiter 29 Taurus^^^))

His pr Moon 12 Gemini
natal ascendant 14 Gemini

my progressed Sun 19 Sag
his desc 14 Sag

his progressed Sun/Moon midpoint was conjunct my Jupiter
my progressed Sun/Moon midpoint conjunct his North Node

posted March 17, 2016 02:25 PM            

Reading that Lotis thread a bit.. so it would make sense to assume with my pVenus on his natal East point that I am the personification of Paradise he has in mind. At least for the time on it (now separating by minutes).

I can say YES. I got that feeling too many times (obstacles are everywhere so I'm not adding those now). More than once he expressed that in fact *I* have all the things in a woman he's looking for. But indeed, those are not exactly in line with the stereotypical paradise notion. Well yea.. and what about me? Well I chased him straight to the point and I knew I had to have him. I was SURE he was the personification of MY paradise lol. I left him no choice and he surrendered pretty fast. It might at least have something to do with this prog aspect ;D

We don't have any synastry conjunctions with this axis btw. So it can't be that. Unless you count my Juno by 2,5 conj my East Point and his Juno conj my West point by 2,5 deg (makes the composite juno exact square my axis).

It's btw interesting what Lotis has to say;

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Okay, so I’ve been paying attention to transits to this Axis over the past couple of years and here’s what I’ve noticed. Often when the Moon (which is fast moving and pretty easy to distinguish energy-wise) transits over either end of this Axis I experience a feeling that could be described as joyful contentment… As if everything is alright with the world, and I’m comfortable with the mood of the day and wish it would continue. To me, transits to either end of this Axis are like a sigh of relief and a feeling of happiness with the way things are. I’ve noticed that this feeling of contentment/‘everything being alright’ can occur during this transit even when situations pop up that usually annoy me. Somehow I’m able to put on a smile, listen to some music, and just go with the flow.

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^ I'll keep an eye on that.

posted March 17, 2016 02:57 PM            

His pMoon was in 24.21 Libra when we first started dating, now it's at 29.29 Libra; My natal moon is at 26 Aries.

My east Point is in 3 Leo 13, His Progressed Venus is in 2.41 Leo, our composite MC is also 3.00 Leo.My pMoon was at 2.52 Aqua when we started going out.

His progressed DSC is 10.43 Leo; my natal ASC is 16 Leo.

His pSun is 26.33 Gemini, his natal Venus at 27.11 Gem.

My progressed Venus is 26.01 Scorpio, IC at 28.43 Scorpio, Pluto at 29.36 Scorpio, His natal sun is 27.58 Taurus. His progressed IC is at 27.47 Taurus, so our progressed MC/IC axes are flipped.

My progressed Mercury is at 24.13 Cap, Uranus 25.36 Cap, and Neptune 22.39 Cap, His natal East Point is at 24.12 Cap, natal moon is 24.56 Virgo, natal Mercury at 23.20 Taurus.

posted March 17, 2016 04:03 PM            

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My east Point is in 3 Leo 13, His Progressed Venus is in 2.41 Leo

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Wow! ^
Another personification of paradise (during the start) ~! (we even started dating at the exact same time ;D)

Looking at the exact deg of ours then;
- my pVenus 24'35 Virgo
- his natal east point 24'57 Virgo

And in your case it's even more promising with pVenus applying to his natal Sun. That's what we expect to find during-the-start according to Westran's research ey ;D
Including both axis.. amai~!

Although it wasn't that bad either with us with his pSun sextile both our natal Venuses (minor grand trine). Tightly applying.

posted March 17, 2016 06:07 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I'm not sure how to figure out the East point myself from having read this. I'm on the trail though..

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Me too

posted March 17, 2016 06:56 PM            

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Tadaaaaa

The most beautiful artistic couple ever lived~~!

Federico Fellini and Giulietta Masina

(50 years of marriage / till death did them part)

My FAVO movie of them and all times;

*LA STRADA* (oow I'm sooo in with that movie).

Not ONE conjunction progressed synastry wise when it all started between them.

On wiki I read this;

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After dating for nine months, the couple were married on 30 October 1943.

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So, I took ofcourse 30 januari 1943.

Guess what..

Progressed Compo Sun 8'58 Pisces
Progressed Compo Moon 8'24 Virgo

Sometimes I think that the luminaries are the only thing we can be really sure of in astrology.

She's born under an almost exact full Moon.
He's born under an almost exact New Moon.

posted March 17, 2016 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Wow I thought I couldn't be more clear about that ^ ;D

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Lol ye, I read a bit further and there it is! Thanks!