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Aunt Anomalia
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posted March 21, 2016 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think of the person you've had the strongest connection of this kind with and post your astro if you have their data please? If you don't have charts to contribute, feel free to share your theories on the indicators.

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posted March 21, 2016 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Think of the person you've had the strongest connection of this kind with and post your astro if you have their data please? If you don't have charts to contribute, feel free to share your theories on the indicators.


Hi Aunt!

By reading your post, I would have thought that Mercury connections should be strong in that case, but when I felt it, Mercury wasn't so strong after all.. Although, there is a Saturn-Mercury DW (trine and sextile), but I don't know if that's enough, neither I know which aspect caused this intellectual connection you mention. As you can see, I am clueless lol
But, since you asked to share our experience and charts, here is the synastry, if it helps!


ETA : But I have a theory in my mind that perhaps it is Mercury after all, since Mercury rules BOTH my 5th and 8th house. So, maybe with one aspect from saturn (his 8th house ruler btw) this could create my subjective feeling of mental/intellectual stimulation. But I don't know if this makes sense..

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posted March 21, 2016 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Think of the person you've had the strongest connection of this kind with and post your astro if you have their data please? If you don't have charts to contribute, feel free to share your theories on the indicators.


Great question and one I've actually been pondering myself lately. In vivid memory there is only one really standout encounter with a man (the boyfriend of a good friend) where I felt a very powerful mental connection. We were on a trip together and through no fault of our own, found ourselves sitting around at night together and wound up deep in conversation (even while my friend was sleeping). It was never flirtatious though and never led to anything inappropriate, he was just very interesting to talk to. Ultimately I think he did develop somewhat of a "crush" on me (that was quickly squashed) and admitted he was very taken by my "intellectual horsepower" whatever that means...lol.

My (Cancer) Mercury:
Mercury trine Sun
Mercury trine Mars
Mercury square Pluto

His (Aquarius) Mercury:
Mercury trine Sun
Mercury square Moon
Mercury trine Uranus

So besides the Mercury/Sun DW nothing else is really that standout, to be honest. Perhaps the other planet influence pushed it deeper but I've shared these aspects with other people and have never experienced it like that.

I actually just noticed we both have our Mercuries in each other's 5th houses...so maybe that helped make it sort of an "attraction" factor?

I am a Gemini, he is a Pisces (hence why he developed a fleeting crush on me lol).

Edit: Here is the chart (I am on the inside)

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posted March 21, 2016 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And this person was the first one with whom I experienced such intellectual connection in my life, although it was purely platonic.
I post this synastry, too, but you should know his TOB is unknown, so some data are missing..


Here there are some more obvious connections I think.

-Mercury trine Mercury
-His Merc trine my Sun
-His Sun on my Jupiter
-His Sun square my Sun and Mercury
-Maybe his Uranus and Venus on my MC have something to do with that, I don't know..
-Of course his stellium falling in my 9th house might also be relevant..
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posted March 21, 2016 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mar1982delta

Thanks. I see a couple of things worth attention in your 1st synastry. Your ASC in the 9th house. His Mercury in your 1st house. His 3HR Moon sextile your Jupiter. His 9HR Venus conjunct your 3HR. His 9HR sextile your Mercury. And his Uranus trine your Mercury if your Merc is in Cancer.

In the second one:
his planets in your 9th house
his Sun conjunct your Jupiter
his Mercury conjunct your Uranus and trine your Mercury-Sun

How about you post your composite and Davison with the 1st guy?

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posted March 21, 2016 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
mar1982delta

Thanks. I see a couple of things worth attention in your 1st synastry. Your ASC in the 9th house. His Mercury in your 1st house. His 3HR Moon sextile your Jupiter. His 9HR Venus conjunct your 3HR. His 9HR sextile your Mercury. And his Uranus trine your Mercury if your Merc is in Cancer.

In the second one:
his planets in your 9th house
his Sun conjunct your Jupiter
his Mercury conjunct your Uranus and trine your Mercury-Sun

How about you post your composite and Davison with the 1st guy?




Thanks for pointing me out those things! I always love to learn new things in astrology, not to mention in my synastry with the 1st guy..lol..you know hahaha

Of course, my pleasure

Here is the davison


and here is the composite


Thank you!!!

ETA : I forgot to answer, yes, my Mercury is in 28 40' cancer.

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posted March 21, 2016 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
margym0o

Apart from the Mercury I'd pay attention to the 9th and 3rd house overlays, some of the aspect to the rulers and interaspects in particular. Mercury-Jupiter, Mercury-Uranus and Mercury-Pluto should be particularly stimulating when it comes to Merc aspects. Mercury-Neptune can be tricky but if an interest in metaphysics is present, you may be grateful for this aspect, at least a soft one.

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posted March 21, 2016 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Mercury in my 3rd house conjunct my IC (1°)
My Mercury trine his Moon (0°)
My Uranus conjunct his Moon (0°)
His Uranus opposite my Moon (0°)
His Uranus trine my Venus (0°) (ruler of my 9th)
My Neptune conjunct his Sun (3°)(with this configuration his Sun is now at the apex of my natal kite, activating it)
His Neptune opposite my Mercury (1°)
My Mercury trine his Pluto (3°)
My Mars in his 3rd house
His DSC in my 9th house
My ASC in his 9th house

Great, life affirming intellectual connection. When it came to ethics and emotional compatibility though, we just couldn't mesh in that way.

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posted March 21, 2016 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
margym0o

Apart from the Mercury I'd pay attention to the 9th and 3rd house overlays, some of the aspect to the rulers and interaspects in particular. Mercury-Jupiter, Mercury-Uranus and Mercury-Pluto should be particularly stimulating when it comes to Merc aspects. Mercury-Neptune can be tricky but if an interest in metaphysics is present, you may be grateful for this aspect, at least a soft one.


I added our chart if you want to see

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Aunt Anomalia
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posted March 21, 2016 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mar...

Sun conjunct Mercury in both charts and I'm not surprised. Neptune in the 3rd, Neptune in the 3rd. Did you talk about spiritual matters?

athenaia
Good to know any Uranus aspects can contrubute to it (unless we're looking in the wrong direction). Does any of the planets in the Uranus aspects rule the 3rd or 9th?

I see Venus does...

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posted March 21, 2016 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:

athenaia
Good to know any Uranus aspects can contrubute to it (unless we're looking in the wrong direction). Does any of the planets in the Uranus aspects rule the 3rd or 9th?


Uranus is considered the "higher octave" of Mercury so hopefully we're on the right track.. I also considered Neptune because outside of love it's considered an "imaginative" planet, so I felt it could also be useful for inspiration, etc, stuff of that nature.

His Uranus trine to my Venus would be the ruler of my 9th house
His Mercury is the ruler of his 9th
Apt since we met in academia

I imagine Jupiter might be useful too in this case, then?

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posted March 21, 2016 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and now that @athenaia mentioned natal configurations, I thought this might be relevant.
He has a natal yod involving his 9H Sun, his 3HR Moon and his Jupiter (natural 9h ruler). And my Moon gets caught up in it, conjuncting his Jupiter (2d orb). So, although my Moon is not a ruler of mental/communication houses in my natal, maybe since his yod involves directly and indirectly 9th and 3rd house, perhaps this adds to this mental connection I feel through my Moon. Does this make any sense?

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posted March 21, 2016 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
mar...

Sun conjunct Mercury in both charts and I'm not surprised. Neptune in the 3rd, Neptune in the 3rd. Did you talk about spiritual matters?



Yes, we did!!! In fact we talked about them even during our first meeting. He seemed like he asked all the weird or uncomfortable questions (for a First Meeting I mean.. Although they are not uncomfortable for me, quite the contrary, I find them inspiring, but I guess it is perceived as a bit weird anyway), for example "do you believe in God?" like this, out of the blue..lol

Again thank you for your observations! Nice topic! A lot of new info!


ETA : Now that I think about it more, I think Ceri, LeeLoo and Lotis White have talked about resonance between natals. Like someone has planets in Sag for example and the other one a 9th house stellium.
Maybe this is relevant in this case, too.
He has a natal Aqua Sun and Mercury in his 9th house plus Dsc in Sag and I have a 9th house stellium with Mars, Pluto and Saturn in Libra. So this might add an extra flavor regarding the mental connection. What do you think?

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posted March 21, 2016 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I imagine Jupiter might be useful too in this case, then?

I think so.

marygym0o

his Moon in your 9H
your Uranus in his 9H (square his Sun, this could matter)
his Uranus in your 3H trine your 9HR
your 9HR sextile his Jupiter
if his Mercury really rule his 3rd then it makes that Sun-Mercury trine even more imporant

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Does this make any sense?

It does! When it comes to natal resonance, I can agree.

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I'm thinking that maybe some aspect to 3H planets other than conjunctions could be helpful. Btw, I'd rather not see Saturn in the 3rd or in a hard aspect to Mercury or 3HR.


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posted March 21, 2016 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:


It does! When it comes to natal resonance, I can agree.

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Happy that you agree! This might sound pretty 1.0.1 to you, but I am really glad that I thought about it lol! Enthusiastic novice observations I guess


quote:
Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:


I'm thinking that maybe some aspect to 3H planets other than conjunctions could be helpful. Btw, I'd rather not see Saturn in the 3rd or in a hard aspect to Mercury or 3HR.

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Is this observation...
a. a general observation or..
b. http://38.media.tumblr.com/f207d0c846f4846826c0a19b5ccadb10/tumblr_inline_nok71rXFtl1rgl8gu_500.gif

lol

If a is the answer, why do you exclude conjunctions? I know that they are considered hard aspects, but do you believe they might cause problems in communication in any case? Thanks!

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posted March 21, 2016 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Conjunctions AND other aspects could be helpful It would be a heresy to exclude the former.

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posted March 21, 2016 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Conjunctions AND other aspects could be helpful It would be a heresy to exclude the former.



Never mind, I am useless with gifs, lol
Oh, I see, I got it wrong then, I read "other than" and I thought they are excluded..poor english, sorry!

LOL, I loved the "heresy" expression there..

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posted March 21, 2016 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's ok. My observation isn't completely general. For example, someone's Saturn is in my 3rd and while we're both inquisitive, I don't find it too pleasant to talk him even though we have some indicators. Hm, in fact it's Saturn in the 3rd DW

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posted March 21, 2016 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
It's ok. My observation isn't completely general. For example, someone's Saturn is in my 3rd and while we're both inquisitive, I don't find it too pleasant to talk him even though we have some indicators. Hm, in fact it's Saturn in the 3rd DW



Hmmm, I see..So Saturn makes you feel somewhat restrained in terms of your communication? Is it so irritating that you think that you have NO mental connection (other than both of you being inquisitive) or is it an obstacle in communication exchange between you?
Are there any other soft or positive aspects to balance this saturn "doom"? lol

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posted March 21, 2016 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For factors I'd say...

* Mercury aspects (General interest in other, as well as flow in conversation).

* Uranus aspects (Fascinating, bizarre and strange factoids. Social commentary).

* Sometimes Jupiter aspects (Intellectual exploration, and discussion of morel issues).

* 3rd house overlays, & 3rd house ruler aspects (General intellectual stimulation).

* 9th house overlays, and 9th house ruler aspects (The 9th house is learning and expanding our horizons).

* 11th house overlays, and 11th house ruler aspects (The 11th house rules our vision of how society aught to be, or our concerns about what needs to be improved within society. These topics often inspire interesting conversation).

My Dad had Pluto in my 9th house trine my Mercury, and Neptune in my 11th house sextile my Mercury. We shared an interest in metaphysical things, and could freely talk about such things together. We also had Mercury sq Mercury which can be stimulating, although sometimes there was a bit of bickering.

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posted March 21, 2016 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
For factors I'd say...

* Mercury aspects (General interest in other, as well as flow in conversation).

* Uranus aspects (Fascinating, bizarre and strange factoids. Social commentary).

* Sometimes Jupiter aspects (Intellectual exploration, and discussion of morel issues).

* 3rd house overlays, & 3rd house ruler aspects (General intellectual stimulation).

* 9th house overlays, and 9th house ruler aspects (The 9th house is learning and expanding our horizons).

* 11th house overlays, and 11th house ruler aspects (The 11th house rules our vision of how society aught to be, or our concerns about what needs to be improved within society. These topics often inspire interesting conversation).

My Dad had Pluto in my 9th house trine my Mercury, and Neptune in my 11th house sextile my Mercury. We shared an interest in metaphysical things, and could freely talk about such things together. We also had Mercury sq Mercury which can be stimulating, although sometimes there was a bit of bickering.



@LotisWhite,
thanks for this categorization!
Do you also include in the above list interconnections between i.e. 3rd house rulers-9th house rulers, Uranus-mercury, jupiter-mercury etc.?

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posted March 21, 2016 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mar1982delta:

Hmmm, I see..So Saturn makes you feel somewhat restrained in terms of your communication? Is it so irritating that you think that you have NO mental connection (other than both of you being inquisitive) or is it an obstacle in communication exchange between you?
Are there any other soft or positive aspects to balance this saturn "doom"? lol


Our relationship is poor in general so it's hard to be objective here. I think it's the way he talks to me that's the main problem. He seems to enjoy explaining things to me but I'm not too receptive to it. Sometimes I'm simply not interested in the subject. Btw, his Saturn actually rules his 3rd house. And it only makes ****** aspects to my chart.


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We also had Mercury sq Mercury which can be stimulating

I'd rather avoid this one.

It seems to me hard Mercury-Mars could make it difficult to enjoy talking, it has potential for frequent clashes.

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posted March 21, 2016 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mar1982delta:

@LotisWhite,
thanks for this categorization!
Do you also include in the above list interconnections between i.e. 3rd house rulers-9th house rulers, Uranus-mercury, jupiter-mercury etc.?


Yes.

Also house ruler synastry is really interesting here. If you look at what aspects Mercury makes & what aspects the 3rd house ruler makes, it can reveal some interesting details. If Mercury aspects Pluto there may be a shared interest in Plutonic topics... But then you'd check what house Pluto rules in the chart to see what part of the other person's life you are tuning into. If Pluto rules the 4th house, talk about the Pluto person's home and family will be common in the relationship as well. Same method can be applied to synastry aspects to the 3rd house ruler.

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posted March 21, 2016 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mar1982delta:
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Hmmm, I see..So Saturn makes you feel somewhat restrained in terms of your communication? Is it so irritating that you think that you have NO mental connection (other than both of you being inquisitive) or is it an obstacle in communication exchange between you?
Are there any other soft or positive aspects to balance this saturn "doom"? lol


Our relationship is poor in general so it's hard to be objective here. I think it's the way he talks to me that's the main problem. He seems to enjoy explaining things to me but I'm not too receptive to it. Sometimes I'm simply not interested in the subject. Btw, his Saturn actually rules his 3rd house. And it only makes ****** aspects to my chart.


quote:
We also had Mercury sq Mercury which can be stimulating

I'd rather avoid this one.

It seems to me hard Mercury-Mars could make it difficult to enjoy talking, it has potential for frequent clashes.

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Maybe the fact that Saturn is his 3rd house ruler is more important than saturn falling in your 3rd alone. I only think that after we discussed all these above, of course. So, maybe I am wrong. But to my understanding, the fact that Saturn is his 3HR maybe translates into his way of expressing himself being boring or not so appealing to you..Just a thought

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posted March 21, 2016 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Yes.

Also house ruler synastry is really interesting here. If you look at what aspects Mercury makes & what aspects the 3rd house ruler makes, it can reveal some interesting details. If Mercury aspects Pluto there may be a shared interest in Plutonic topics... But then you'd check what house Pluto rules in the chart to see what part of the other person's life you are tuning into. If Pluto rules the 4th house, talk about the Pluto person's home and family will be common in the relationship as well. Same method can be applied to synastry aspects to the 3rd house ruler.



Yes, rulers are a true revelation in synastry (and in natals I suppose lol)..I just started to grasp this, I don't know much yet. But they got me interested!
I am now tempted to ask you if you are a professional astrologer or do readings in general (via email for instance), but if you don't want to answer me, that's ok. Thanks!

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