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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25186 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 31, 2016 08:26 AM
I think I might not have posted this one before, or not in a long time. It`s such a strange composite. Always made me go like: "What`s it all about?" (I never really found out the answer to that question, but I guess it doesn`t even really matter. It`s just for fun I posted this today. But for a time, many many years ago in a different life as it feels, I was VERY VERY VERY affected by this man or my idea of him maybe. Without him I probably would not even be here on this forum today. So you can blame it on him. ) [/URL] (and when I say: many years ago, Im ean like over 25 years ago. How curious that after many years he shall make another - temporary- guest-performance in my life; I suspect though that in relation to my life he is not so much a "man" but an "archetypical symbol" as far as humans can become that; but it has been odd, in the path whenever he crossed my path, that usually heralded big changes in my life, not even connected to him at all, just major crossroads. and decision-time. ) IP: Logged |
Vixen Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted March 31, 2016 08:35 AM
Wow... this is incredible! No wonder you were so affacted by him! Eros opposite Psyche-Neptune, sextile Chiron (so beautiful!) Amor and Mars on ASC, Aphrodite on DSC (hot!) Venus-Jupiter conjunctionI'm jealous I wish I had composite like that with someone IP: Logged |
mar1982delta Knowflake Posts: 884 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted March 31, 2016 12:28 PM
Hi Ceri! You know I have little or even zero knowledge on interpreting a composite, but I thought I should share some thoughts just for fun, too! Just to see if I can possibly find here this strong effect you mentioned! Firstly, I think that jupiter conj. venus might be indicative of that.. Secondly, what I find impressive is the minor triangle with pluto-uranus/Neptune as the apex/and then Mars-Asc-Amor. I think the involvement of all the outer planets with Mars, Asc and Amor gives this unique flavor! Just a thought, not a knowledgable opinion about the interpretation, though! Then, I think the stellium in the 1st house is important, too. Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars and Jupiter all in the 1st house, I mean, this might have had a pivotal effect on your identity/sense of self..(?). A strong composite 1st house gives an ego-boost and strong confidence in the connection, but it is also so much more than that! It makes you feel more alive and strong..ugh, I don't know how to put it in words correctly lol.. Chiron conj. Moon placed in the 2nd house seems intriguing to me, too.. I don't know how you would describe that. Probably a healing effect would be stronger in that case and I say that from the combination of the 1st house stellium with the chiron-moon conj. in the 2nd house, the house of self-value - among others.. Moreover, there is a Yod with Pluto as the apex, Sun the one leg, Ceres the other leg! No clue how to interpret it, but I couldn't help but admire a yod with Ceres The strong effect of the connection probably is indicated by pluto (and uranus) plus NN in the 8th house, too. Lastly, I don't know if I am overreaching here, but this phrase of yours "Without him I probably would not even be here on this forum today. " made me think that maybe this is indicated by Uranus, as the symbol of astrology in the 8th house, the house of deep changes, opposing Chiron (an astrologer, too!), thus as a way of self-healing and transformation (2nd/8th house)..Maybe an over-simplification, I don't know, but I like to see patterns in astrology symbols! Curious about any feedback!!! IP: Logged |
Sunnya Knowflake Posts: 484 From: Sunnyland Registered: Jun 2014
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posted March 31, 2016 02:36 PM
Wow Mars + Amor on the ASC and Aphrodite on the DSC. This is super sexy and beautiful with Amor there! No wonder he affected you big time! Psyche + Neptune opposing Eros in the 4th, nice soulmate connection. There seems to be a connection maintained in the unseen realms too . Sun conjunct Valentine, Venus conjunct Jupiter in the 1st: potentially a really loving and happy relationship. I think it seems a great composite overall, though I wonder if Saturn square ASC/Mars/Amor conjunction could dampen things sometimes or it could just bring commitment and longevity to the relationship (if you started one with him). Edit: Thanks unknown guy for bringing Ceridwen to the forum! IP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 728 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted March 31, 2016 07:24 PM
this composite reminds me talyor swift’s song “bad blood” "we got bad blood,you know we used to be mad love"\as mentioned psyche opposed to eros ultimate idealistic love. venus/mars midpoint conjunct to mercury giving love ,laughter and joy. Mars conjunct the ascendant and amore opposed to aphordite. Another uber romantic and idealistic feeling of love with him.\ Venus/Jupiter conjunction square to lilth gave a joy and love that seemed to be preexistent to your union. But it seems that there was always an underlying emotional block or mental withholding as pluto is biquintile to mercury and their midpoint is square to the Jupiter/venus conjunction. Then with the sun conjunct the anti vertex, there was that unworldly feeling that you had met through destiny The other side of the coin starts with mars square to Saturn, in a composite this tends to show a dominating man, and is often emotionally cold. Here the mars/Saturn midpoint conjunct the moon/sun midpoint. This gives the dominating, cold demeanor a central position in the relationship in spite of all the affectional aspects. the Saturn/Uranus midpoint is square to the node which shows an inherent ambivalence about the relationship . this is a aspect of breakup . the most quixotic aspect is the pyramid pattern made up of the Uranus/Chiron opposition with mars and Neptune sextile/trine to the opposition. This shows there was a “spiritual/physical” healing aura to the relationship. This shows a innate sensitivity to each others emotional issues. todd
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25186 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 01, 2016 04:40 AM
Thank you all for your input. I will give you feedback, but am a bit pressed for time right now. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25186 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 01, 2016 05:01 PM
Todd, pretty impressive, once again! Never was a relationship, in fact it was my first performer-crush, I had when I was 15 years old. Just it came with some weird side-effects. I even remember the moment I saw his picture (I had not even seen HIM on a stage, just his picture in a program) and heard his voice, something happened. Hard to describe. While I think it is perfectly normal for teenage-girls to develop crushes and maybe even live in daydreams for a time, most girls do NOT suddenly have past life recalls (unbidden), astral-travel-experiences, just "knowing" certain things and the weirdest thing was that actually he had disappeared from the face of the earth when I developed my crush on (someone I never even saw myself. lol) and then 3 years later, I was walking down a street and suddenly struck by a flash of lightening and knowledge where he was, which city, which part of the city, it was like a download of this information, and turned out later I was right, as I had been right about many many things (and delusional about others ). Funny thing is my friend even got his phone number back then, and no I would not have dreamed of annoy the crap out of him, I was not THAT delusional. But it always struck me weird how it was the same as my own telephone number just with one number different. Just like we were picking the same bed and the same sofa for our respective livingrooms, same style, just his was white, mine was black. (I know that because he was many years later doing some kind of home story, I can`t remember to well). It also made me laugh when you mentiond "quixotic". Cause that was the first time I ever saw him in real life, when he was playing Don Quixote in "Man of La Mancha" You know this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6KUR3iW6Aw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mfd4E7kpvc But that had been the first part of this non-story.
Dreaming had been fun, and as you said, enjoyable and whatelse. But it`s never wise to have unfounded expectations and letting dreams to become obsessions. He or whatever that was, was a catalyst to my spiritual development or re-awakening, yes, but well I was pretty much still a child really having a hard time telling spiritual reality from fantasy apart. The coldness had to be there because him not being present at all plus him being gay, oh I forgot to mention it? Well later it turned out he is bisexual, but when I learned this, I was way beyond caring about his orientation. But many years back then the reality-clash was unbearable for me, it nearly drove me over the edge, and pretty much had me lose my access to my spirituality for years (and I still don`t trust my own perceptions fully, but I am getting there ) . I can`t even begin to describe how painful this was (pure Chironic I guess). Yes, delusional might have been, but before shutting down I think I was having a nervous breakdown, but anyway, years later I actually met him after some show. Long long after my crush had passed of course (to be honest I have no clue how I ever could have one on him, that is why I mentioned I probably was more enarmoured with the "idea of him" ). And then many years after that I was having a very weird afternoon in the Netherlands, 15th july 2007. I was beyond daydreaming at that time, but the image of him was pushing hard against my skull, and to stop the headaches, I figured I could listen to what my subconsciousness apparently wanted to tell me, even though I had no clue why it would after all these years show up in images of him. This sounds crazy, right? But well for one afternoon I embraced crazy, and what he or my subconsciousness had to tell me was NOT flattering at all for me; it is really weird to have someone who exists only in your head (and should be NICE to you therefore) tell you: "What do you want? What do you really want? And when the heck are you going to start LIVING and DOING WHAT YOU WANT, without excuses?" Yeah, pretty important crazy daydream, but it actually made me think about that question a bit, and I realized that what I wanted, as profane that seemed at that time, seeing another musical performer`s concert (I had talked myself out of it for many reasons I cannot think of now and which were all stupid anyway), and so I went there. The weirdest thing however was that when I was sitting there waiting for the show to start and reading in an astro-book (by Robert Blashke. lol) I felt like someone was looking at me (cause my skin was crawling extremely, more extreme than usually whne someone looks at me). And when I looked up, he was standing just a metre away and looking at me, which WAS weird, because technically realistically I was just a stranger to him, but he still stood there and kept looking at me. And then the thing got even weirder because while looking at him I simultaneously felt like I saw time itself running back, like zapped backwards through different times, I do remember stonecircles, the sky above the desert in Egypt, right up to where there were just stars, then a bright flash and then nothing, well probably not nothing, but I don`t know. And the thing is whatever I had been going through because of him or anything connected to that weirdness, it was healed. Just one moment - snap- and it was done. And me having that feeling of : "This is it. The moment of my life. Now everything begins." (don`t even ask me why I thought that. lol) I did see him after that on stage, and sometimes wanted to see him, but he was sick and Mr Sag was actually taking over for him (always suspected this guy to be some kind of, well catalyst, pulling me where I am meant to go, even though I so do not want to. lol) But then a few years ago, I just figured his role in my life was done with, and did not want to see him again (not because of bad blood, but just because), and curiously enough even when I later checked on him, he had pulled out of the public pretty much completely. So I was pretty surprised and amused to see he is going to be part of the musical program of an event I am going to go to this month (and I had no clue when deciding to go there, though I should have known. AFter 6 years or so I suddenly started dreaming of him again, and he was trying to tell me something important, but I did not want to listen. lol) I know how crazy this sounds, but by now I just accept the craziness; though judging by previous crossings usually seeing him somewhere precedes really major turns in my life. Not a clue why that is, maybe it`s just coincidence.
But you see how apt your interpretation was. Not a relationship by any means, the man is emotionally cold and distant, because 1. not present and 2. well gay. He is also fun to watch on stage, at least if I remember it right. It`s been so long ago, it feels like a past life already. lol And there is more than a bit of those weird crazy intuitive and dream-stuff going on on my side. EDIT Please don`t quote.
You know I usually don`t say this, but in this instance I probably should erase what I wrote soon enough, so noone is going to have me in a straightjacket.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25186 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 01, 2016 05:08 PM
Vixen, Mar, Sunnya, thank you for your interpretations. I think just looking at the composite I would have interpreted it similiarly as you did (you could not know the totally zany back-story ) I always found it hilarious too, okay roaringly funny and ironical, how strong Eros and Aphrodite are. There is even a Mars-Aphrodite-aspect aong the ASC-DESC-axis. What a waste of astrological symbols! IP: Logged |
mar1982delta Knowflake Posts: 884 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted April 01, 2016 05:18 PM
LOL, Ceri, I will erase that "You know I usually don`t say this, but in this instance I probably should erase what I wrote soon enough, so noone is going to have me in a straightjacket" but I want to tell you that you don't need to feel like that. Since todd mentioned sun-antivertex that I totally missed, I absolutely believe what you are saying and it's a really beautiful story! I don't mean that this is the only aspect that creates that, but I respect the vertex and it can totally create otherwordly experience, so I have an open mind after I experienced it myself! This is its charm, after all! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25186 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 01, 2016 05:53 PM
You are right about that Vertex-thing. Well in Mr Sag`s and my composite we have SAturn conjunct Vertex (probably not the easiest, but we have it both natally so it had to come up as result in composite), but what I even found more interesting is that our composite Psyche is opposite c-Vertex. In fact when we met (yes it is that long ago. lol)
Vertex 24°59 Leo Psyche 24°38 Aquarius pc Venus 24°29 Aquarius
Tr Neptune 24°15 Aquarius plus there was also c-Saturn 21°50 Leo Tr NN 21°59 Leo Tr Chiron 21°09 Aquarius Sorry for that detour, but I just think this is too much concentratred on a degree to not be noticed. lol
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mar1982delta Knowflake Posts: 884 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted April 01, 2016 06:15 PM
Ohhh, these are a lot to figure out! Progressions, transits and composite hits? That is strong! (..trying to decipher them lol)IP: Logged |
Sunnya Knowflake Posts: 484 From: Sunnyland Registered: Jun 2014
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posted April 03, 2016 02:02 PM
Edit: Posted in wrong thread hahaYou are always welcome Ceridwen. I am trying to amp up my knowledge and practicing more reading charts. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 16638 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 04, 2016 08:16 AM
This time when I looked at it my eye went directly to the Pythagorean triangle of Mars-Saturn-Uranus. Lasting, unusual, maybe compulsive (?) attraction since Mars is on the ASC, quincunx 8H Pluto. Then the yod with Saturn at the apex. I'm starting to wonder if a highly aspected Saturn in composite could give a romantic feeling? Like a "we were meant to be together forever" feeling? I say that because of my own chart history. IP: Logged | |