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Topic: Quick question about 1st house planets and Dsc sign
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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 01, 2016 12:02 PM
  
I was going to post this in the already existing thread in the main forum 'Just a quick question about houses' but my question is quite specific so I decided to ask here.My Pluto is technically in the 1st house (by degree) but it's almost on the cusp of the 2nd. So I guess it can interpreted as Pluto in 1st and as Pluto in 2nd too. What I wanted to know is this. Would I still have an affinity with someone who has Scorpio Dsc or not? For example, If your Dsc is in Leo, then your 'ideal' partner might be Leo Asc, Leo Sun or have Sun in their 1st house. In my case it's Pluto in the 1st, hence Scorpio Dsc. Astro Pullen places Scorpio on top of all other signs, even though I don't have any Scorpio in my chart, apart from Saturn. It's probably because of 3 Pluto aspects AND maybe that Pluto in 1st. Any planet in that house is going to be very important. IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted April 01, 2016 12:10 PM
Is your Pluto in Taurus or Gemini?! Since you said you have a Scorpio Dsc, your Asc is in Taurus and your Pluto in the 1st would mean that it's either in Taurus or Gem.
Maybe I ve got it totally wrong, lol, is it possible that you post your chart, so that we could answer your question better? 
Maybe it's my bad english, I am totally confused! :/ETA : Sorry, now I got it, you are a Scorpio Asc and your question is whether you'll be drawn to those with a Scorpio Dsc (Tau Asc), right?
In that case, why would Pluto on the cusp of 1st/2nd would affect that? Since we are talking about angles, the conjunction of angles, even reversed, can create attraction in a lot of cases!! IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 01, 2016 12:13 PM
No not My Dsc, your potential match, his Dsc.I am Libra Asc, my Pluto is in Scorpio. IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted April 01, 2016 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
No not My Dsc, your potential match, his Dsc.I am Libra Asc, my Pluto is in Scorpio.
Hahahaha, I got it wrong for a second time, sorry!
Ok, so you are asking if although you are a Libra Asc (thus drawn to Aries Dsc), the fact that Pluto is on the cusp of your 1st/2nd house could draw you to Scorpio Dsc as well, right?
Hmmm, let me think about that a while, but if you deside to post your chart, maybe I have more to offer!
Be right back! IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 01, 2016 12:16 PM
mar1982delta,I can give another example, from my chart again. My Dsc is in Aries. So my 'ideal man' might have Mars in 1st house in his chart, because Aries is ruled by Mars. IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted April 01, 2016 12:18 PM
Ok, I think that since you have scorpio on the 2nd house cusp, those with a Scorpio Dsc would have their Dsc falling in your 2nd house, thus the house of your self-value, among other things.
Plus, their Asc would fall in your 8th house, the house of deep transformation and intimacy.
So I think this could create a strong attraction, depending on a lot of other things in the synastry, of course.
Hope I helped! IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 01, 2016 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Ok, so you are asking if although you are a Libra Asc (thus drawn to Aries Dsc), the fact that Pluto is on the cusp of your 1st/2nd house could draw you to Scorpio Dsc as well, right?
YES! But more like the other way round. Would They (Scorpio Dsc) be drawn to me still? Because my Pluto is almost like a 2nd house planet. IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted April 01, 2016 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
mar1982delta,I can give another example, from my chart again. My Dsc is in Aries. So my 'ideal man' might have Mars in 1st house in his chart, because Aries is ruled by Mars.
Yes, yes, I think I get what you mean finally, lol! 
Very interesting your thought!
I hope I offered another point of view as well with my post above!
The fact that Pluto is on the cusp of 1st/2nd house can create an attraction towards people with scorpio placements (Dsc among others, thus relationships) imo! IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted April 01, 2016 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
YES! But more like the other way round. Would They (Scorpio Dsc) be drawn to me still? Because my Pluto is almost like a 2nd house planet.
Maybe that would be affected by where your Pluto falls in their chart. For example, your Pluto in Scorpio could draw people with a Scorpio Dsc to you, but if your Pluto is let's say in 10 Scorpio and their Dsc in 20 Scorpio, that would make your Pluto fall in their 6th house! In another case, with their Dsc in 5 Scorpio, your Pluto would fall in their 7th house! I think this would cause a difference between the two cases ! ETA : In any case, if your Pluto falls in their 7th house, this could create an irresistible pull, but pluto in this house can cause some power struggles in the relationship, too! So, it's like a bit of a two-sided coin! Passion and intense feelings/strong bond, which can lead even to obsession or/and power struggles! IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 01, 2016 12:27 PM
mar1982delta,house overlays is another way to go about it, yes. Now you got me thinking from that perspective and I probably found my answer )) If I keep to 1st house/Asc/Dsc thread then logically even with house overlays it should be a similar picture. So my Pluto whatever house it's in my natal chart, as long as it falls into guy's 1st house, the rule of affinity is supported. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 01, 2016 12:31 PM
Lol yes yes yes! I meant 7th of course. Funny how we just figured it all out at the same time IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted April 01, 2016 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
mar1982delta,house overlays is another way to go about it, yes. Now you got me thinking from that perspective and I probably found my answer )) If I keep to 1st house/Asc/Dsc thread then logically even with house overlays it should be a similar picture. So my Pluto whatever house it's in my natal chart, as long as it falls into guy's 1st house, the rule of affinity is supported.
Glad if I helped!
Yes, that's exactly what I mean! So, you see I think there are really a lot of angles to look into it! I think the specific synastry/comparison to natals would offer more specific answers!
Good luck
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mar1982delta
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posted April 01, 2016 12:33 PM
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Lol yes yes yes! I meant 7th of course. Funny how we just figured it all out at the same time
LOL, cool synchronicity, huh?
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mar1982delta
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posted April 01, 2016 12:35 PM
Needless to say that having someone's Sco Dsc falling in your 2nd (taurus) house and their Tau Asc falling in your 8th (Scorpio) house is like a double taurus-scorpio polarity effect, but in a reversed way (Sco/Tau in the Tau/Sco houses)! I think that's cool! IP: Logged |
llewsacm
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posted April 01, 2016 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
mar1982delta,I can give another example, from my chart again. My Dsc is in Aries. So my 'ideal man' might have Mars in 1st house in his chart, because Aries is ruled by Mars.
CC- I have a Capricorn DSC. My boyfriend has Saturn on his MC in the 10th. He is my ideal (most of the time anyway). Is that what you mean? IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 01, 2016 02:12 PM
llewsacm,No, because you're Capricorn Dsc, he should have any of these: Capricorn Sun
Capricorn Asc
Saturn in 1st house
Sun conjunct Saturn There are other things you can check too but you need to look up the planets you have in your 7th and he in his 1st. IP: Logged |
llewsacm
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posted April 01, 2016 02:44 PM
He has none of these. My sun falls in my 10th and his sun overlays to that house in my chart.He has Uranus and psyche in his first house. My 7th is empty. I guess I'm missing the discussion somehow. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 01, 2016 08:24 PM
llewsacm,Then he doesn't fit your idea of perfect husband material. Astrologically speaking! And it's ok because it's quite rare for both partners to match each other's Dsc signs. And then you have Synastry! But I like to do this excercise. I feel it definitely works. Only I believe you should go beyond the Dsc sign analysis alone. Use other things too: 1st and 7th house (planets, aspects) + their rulers and corulers too. There was a post I made about this with detailed description of how to do it but I can't find it  1) You check your Dsc and its ruler. You check if his Sun or Asc is in that sign. Then you check if the planet that rules your Dsc is in his 1st house and if he has Sun conjunct that planet in his own chart. So following that you get:
Capricorn Sun
Capricorn Asc
Saturn in 1st house
Sun conjunct Saturn 2) Check planets in your 7th house. Again looking for mirror effect. Whatever planet you have in your 7th he might have in his 1st. Or his Sun could be conjunct that planet in his natal chart. Or he could be of the Sun sign that is ruled by that planet. What's your boyfriend's Asc, Sun sign and planets in his 7th? We can check if you fit His ideal if you want..
But you know, one of the astrologers I use, when I asked her about this (what does Dsc show), she said that Dsc sign and the above technique most often just show who you end up marrying, not who you find to be your ideal match. Like fate. Because when you think think about it..what about cultures where people don't date, they arrange the marriage and that's it. Then when you check their charts, you see this husband/wife perfectly described by their chart.
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llewsacm
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posted April 01, 2016 11:24 PM
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But you know, one of the astrologers I use, when I asked her about this (what does Dsc show), she said that Dsc sign and the above technique most often just show who you end up marrying, not who you find to be your ideal match. Like fate. Because when you think think about it..what about cultures where people don't date, they arrange the marriage and that's it. Then when you check their charts, you see this husband/wife perfectly described by their chart. [/B][/QUOTE]This makes sense since my ex husband of 15 years had Capricorn asc. He was not my ideal. It was a marriage contract and that's it. Unfortunately. His asc was exactly conjunct my dsc. IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted April 02, 2016 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by llewsacm:
He has none of these. My sun falls in my 10th and his sun overlays to that house in my chart.He has Uranus and psyche in his first house. My 7th is empty. I guess I'm missing the discussion somehow.
Yes he can fit your ideal husband profile. This is because his Sun is in your secondary 7th house. You have a Capricorn Dsc, Capricorn rules the 10th house traditionally. That means that those with a Capricorn Dsc can be attracted to partners with planets in their 10th house, as well as those with planets in Capricorn. His Sun in your 10th house attracts you because you are a Capricorn Dsc. IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted April 02, 2016 02:28 AM
A person with a Capricorn Dsc (this goes for any Dsc sign really) could be attracted to...1. Those with planets in Capricorn. 2. Those a strong Saturn in their chart (this can include a variety of things... like Saturn conjunct Sun or Moon, Saturn on the Asc, or even just a very strongly aspected Saturn in the natal chart). 3. Those with planets in the same sign as the Dsc person's Saturn. Saturn rules the Dsc, and the sign of the Dsc ruler always shows qualities we are attracted to. 4. Those who put planets in the Capricorn Dsc person's 10th house. Those with a Capricorn Dsc look for people who can give them 10th house energy, either by being Capricorn-like or by activating that life area for them. People with planets in Capricorn Dsc's 10th house activate that area of life for them, putting them into a relationship mood. Capricorn Dsc's often admire and are attracted to the energy of their 10th house (If the Dsc had been Scorpio then the attraction would be to the 8th house. If the Dsc had been Aquarius then the attraction would be to the 11th house, and so on though the Dsc signs and the houses they traditionally rule). IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 02, 2016 07:20 AM
Yeah, there's a lot you can factor in, even beyond Asc/Dsc axis as you see.IP: Logged |
llewsacm
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posted April 02, 2016 01:30 PM
Yes I do. I was trying to point out by way of your theory that perhaps Mars in the first linking to your dsc ruler may have more significance because Aries rules the first house! With my example and Saturn, the link would be to his 10th, and with Saturn there on his end, also significant. I dont know if I'm making sense with all that...lol. To go along with what LW pointed out,
The overlays to my 10th are heavy. His sun, mercury, moon, and Eros all light up that house in my chart. It's no wonder he has a strong impact on my life. 😊 IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 02, 2016 05:17 PM
llewsacm,yes yes of course you are making sense! I agree with pretty much everything said on this thread. Thank you all. Asc/Dsc/1st/7th/planets there are most important to me. But after that I myself always look for similarities in planet placements and signs. My ex has Moon in 10th and I'm a Capricorn it works huh? IP: Logged |
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