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Topic: Ruler of the DC and the Experience of Partnerships
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FmVenusWLove
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posted April 01, 2016 03:34 PM
  
Perhaps this topic is a bit elementary and repetitious for this board. For some reason I find I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around this though, so my thought is that discussing it with those who are more advanced than I will help me identify what's making this so confusing to me.I'm mostly curious about Pisces on the DC and its modern ruler Neptune. Neptune tends to get a bad rap in many interpretations in synastry/composites, particularly as it relates to romance (as does Uranus). I personally do not have such a negative view of the outter planets, but I'm curious how Neptune's mystical reputation would color a person with Pisces on the DC's romantic experience. For example, 9 of my planets aspect a friend of mine's Neptune - mix of hard and soft aspects. He has Pisces on the DC. I'm curious if this would bode well for our connection or if this could be troublesome given Neptune's reputation for unrealistic expectations and fantasy. Or is this less difficult because Pisces on the DC would be more attracted to that "fuzziness" with those they are close to? Thoughts? IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted April 01, 2016 03:51 PM
Hi! I am still learning, too, so I can't offer a professional/advanced opinion, but I definitely agree that discussion helps for these matters! So, I'll give it a try if you don't mind, lol 
I agree more with the second part of your thought, that "this is less difficult because Pisces on the DC would be more attracted to that "fuzziness" with those they are close to". I have read quite often that any aspect in a synastry depends on the natals. The natals are the context of the synastry. A hard neptune aspect in the synastry is not the same for somebody who is used to neptune's energy in their natal, compared to someone who is not. So, the Dsc in Pisces makes the Neptune aspects more charming and easy/familiar for him/her, but still a lot depend on other placements and the overall synastry, as well as the natals.
Why don't you post a chart? IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted April 01, 2016 04:05 PM
I am a Pisces Dsc and have dated many Pisces. We are like magnets!! My current husband is a Pisces Asc, Venus. What I've learned through experience is that I seem to "out Neptune" pure Pisces humans because my Asc, Mars is sq Neptune. I have also a 4 planet Stellium in 12H progressed chart (sq Neptune). I am very dreamy, very aloof and very "you're on a pedestal". When I wake up it ain't pretty. I mirror their mirror, they mirror their own mirror and it becomes delusional galore. In the end, no one knows who thinks what or which feelings came from whom. It's beautiful but very painful. IP: Logged |
FmVenusWLove
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posted April 01, 2016 09:43 PM
Thank you for the great explanation mar1982delta  I agree. I do believe that one's natal chart is really the most important thing to consider when it comes to aspects in synastry. If you're interested  Here's our synastry. Birth times are correct - I'm the Taurus Sun.  quote:
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In the end, no one knows who thinks what or which feelings came from whom. It's beautiful but very painful.
That's honestly what I'm worried about, lol. IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted April 01, 2016 09:55 PM
You're welcome FmVenusLove!
Wow, a lot of action in this synastry! 
I'll take a look tomorrow when I wake up, lol!
If it's not bothersome, post the charts from astro.com, no real reason, I am just used to them and my eyes see better 
If not, I'll look into the synastry anyway, hahaha  IP: Logged |
FmVenusWLove
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posted April 01, 2016 11:00 PM
No problem Mars I appreciate you taking the time to look it over so I don't mind posting the default astro.com chart.IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted April 02, 2016 05:00 AM
Don't forget that Pisces is also co-ruled by Jupiter.If you have a Pisces Dsc, I'd take note of the positions of both Neptune and Jupiter in the natal to judge relationship tendencies. IP: Logged |
FmVenusWLove
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posted April 02, 2016 12:19 PM
Thank you for the reminder Lotis! It's interesting, my friend has the following aspects natally:Jupiter square Venus (2)
Jupiter semi-square his AC (2)
Jupiter sesquisquare his MC (0) Neptune semi-square Venus (1)
Neptune square his AC (2)
Neptune opposite MC (3) Neptune and Jupiter also aspect his Pluto, though much more widely than the above. So, would these aspects bode well for more hard aspects to these planets in synastry? Or would it aggravate these squares natally and be more difficult for the person? IP: Logged |
mar1982delta
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posted April 03, 2016 07:14 AM
Hi FmVenusLove, sorry for the delay!
I am pointing out the most important factors in your synastry that I see :
- your Moon conj. his Asc (is his TOB accurate, right?)
-his Moon conj. your NN. AND his Mars conj. your SN
WOw, these alone can create very strong feelings! I wonder how you feel Mars on your SN, his masculinity or energy senses familiar to you?
- his Vertex on your IC!!!
- your Mars on his MC
- Neptune sq. Moon DW, this is important, since you initially asked about Neptune, as his Dsc-ruler and it's nice that it is a DW, at least even if it acts out as putting the other part on a pedestal, it is mutual!
- The other interesting thing with Neptune is that you have a PIsces IC and he has Neptune on his IC! This is a mirroring of your natals, which can create attraction, too! Plus, his Dsc falls in your 4th house this way! Sense of familiarity and soul connection..
- your Jupiter and NN on his Moon and your venus conjunct at least by sign (how wide is the orb?)Overall I think it's an impressive synastry, at least to me as a beginner lol, but really you have a lot of interasction going on there!
What I found interesting is that his Uranus and your Sun and Mercury are unaspected in the synastry. Do you think it plays out and if so, how? Maybe unaspected planets have a bad reputation like Neptune and things aren't so "bad" after all (I have an unaspected planet in synastry, too and I keep wondering lol).
His Chiron on your Sun and Mercury, this relationship brought up some wound from the past? Do you think you are healed by being with him?
That's all for now, sorry if I am not much of a help, but firstly I am still learning and more importantly I have no inspiration for interpreting today, I am a little tired from yesterday, hopefully someone else will offer as well. :/
ETA : As for your last question that I just saw above "So, would these aspects bode well for more hard aspects to these planets in synastry? Or would it aggravate these squares natally and be more difficult for the person?" I think the first answer is correct lol. I mean generally speaking when someone has hard aspects in their natal, they are more prepared to deal with hard aspects in the synastry, too. I think that it depends on the kind of the hard aspects, too, if we are talking about the same hard aspect, then yes, definitely! But I guess it helps with other kinds of hard aspects, too. Hope I didn't confuse you more, lol
Good luck!
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FmVenusWLove
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posted April 03, 2016 09:56 PM
Wow, thanks Mar :love: I really appreciate you taking the time to look and no worries - I understand not having the inspiration or the mindset to focus on something like this...it takes a lot of energy. I'm touched you still popped in to give your thoughts and the things you mentioned were helpful. quote:
Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Hi FmVenusLove, sorry for the delay! :)
I am pointing out the most important factors in your synastry that I see :
- your Moon conj. his Asc (is his TOB accurate, right?)
-his Moon conj. your NN. AND his Mars conj. your SN
WOw, these alone can create very strong feelings! :) I wonder how you feel Mars on your SN, his masculinity or energy senses familiar to you?
Yep, TOBs are correct for both of us. The connection is definitely very strong. His Sun conjuncts my anti-vertex - I believe that this coupled with my SN on his Mars makes it feel like he's sort of a "dream come true" in the sense that I feel like I've been seeking out his "energy" all my life...idk how to explain it. I've always been searching for particular qualities to balance and ground me and I feel I found those in him. His masculinity does feel very familiar and very comforting to me - like coming home after a long time away. I am curious how these aspects will change the longer we know each other because I've read both positive and negative interpretations of these conjunctions. Only time will tell I guess. quote:
Originally posted by mar1982delta:
- his Vertex on your IC!!!
- your Mars on his MC
- Neptune sq. Moon DW, this is important, since you initially asked about Neptune, as his Dsc-ruler and it's nice that it is a DW, at least even if it acts out as putting the other part on a pedestal, it is mutual! ;)
- The other interesting thing with Neptune is that you have a PIsces IC and he has Neptune on his IC! This is a mirroring of your natals, which can create attraction, too! Plus, his Dsc falls in your 4th house this way! Sense of familiarity and soul connection..
Yea, there is a strong sense of familiarity between us. We apparently have quite a few mirroring aspects in our natals, but this one is interesting. For some reason I completely missed that my IC ruler is Neptune and Jupiter. Hmmm...helps me put into perspective our Moon-Neptune, Mars-Neptune DW. Thanks for bringing that up! quote:
Originally posted by mar1982delta:
- your Jupiter and NN on his Moon and your venus conjunct at least by sign (how wide is the orb?)
Orb is a bit wide - 7 degrees. quote:
Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Overall I think it's an impressive synastry, at least to me as a beginner lol, but really you have a lot of interasction going on there!
What I found interesting is that his Uranus and your Sun and Mercury are unaspected in the synastry. Do you think it plays out and if so, how?
Hmmm, I guess the chart doesn't show it, but my sun is part of a loose grand trine with his Sun and AC (all at 5 degrees exact). It also makes a minor aspect with his Neptune (BQ 1 degree). My Mercury makes quite a few minor aspects with his Saturn, Neptune and angles. Maybe the orbs are too wide to count that though. His Uranus conjuncts my AC at 5 degrees. I don't really know if I feel either of these are unaspected or if they stand out to me in some way. When I was looking at the aspect chart I did notice that these two are sort of "lonelier" planets given all of the action going on for the others so maybe there is still something to this. quote:
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His Chiron on your Sun and Mercury, this relationship brought up some wound from the past? Do you think you are healed by being with him? :)
Absolutely :) I feel healing and peace right down in the deepest parts of my soul.
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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
ETA : As for your last question that I just saw above "So, would these aspects bode well for more hard aspects to these planets in synastry? Or would it aggravate these squares natally and be more difficult for the person?" I think the first answer is correct lol. I mean generally speaking when someone has hard aspects in their natal, they are more prepared to deal with hard aspects in the synastry, too. I think that it depends on the kind of the hard aspects, too, if we are talking about the same hard aspect, then yes, definitely! But I guess it helps with other kinds of hard aspects, too. Hope I didn't confuse you more, lol :D
Good luck! :)
Not confusing at all - I see what you're saying. Even if its a different hard aspect, it still may feel familiar, or at least it may be easier to recognize negative manifestations and steer clear. That's good to know. Anyone else around here have Pisces on the DC and want to share their experience? I'm still curious how it feels to have Neptune activated in Synastry for you....and I just like hearing all y'all's stories lol. IP: Logged | |
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