posted April 09, 2016 05:20 AM            

I have been thinking through the last months in some info IQ posted (i wish i could find the thread) about soul changing within the body.. and then Auby mentioned the split sould theme when talking about the girlfriend of her husband.. then some ideas have been in my mind somehow(not elaborated at this point and I will like to bring examples later on)..

1. animus-anima.. people familiar with Jung theories knows about. for the man, the anima is the feminine side of his psyche which is mainly unconscious and tend to be projected in the women he falls in love with. Animus, the masculine side of the woman and projected onto the men she falls for. I was wondering if what Jung call Anima-animus can be also split souls. would be that we fall for different people that somehow share something that our souls recognize? could it be that the men I fall in love, rather than a projection of animus is a split soul in several men?

2. the other idea is about changing the soul in the same body. sort of a part of the split soul can emigrate to my body and my split soul goes to someone body (as an example). maybe one dies and the split soul exchange the role with the other? that would explain changes in taste, behavior and things like that can happen to a person for no apparent reason, although an important event (i.e accident, crisis, surgery) can trigger the change?

I would elaborate on these ideas (not well digested and just hunches without any research behind) just wanted to bring the topic as I am aware that some people in this forum knows a great deal about these things.. Auby if you read this and can suggest readings or links..

IQ? any other who would like to discuss this topic?

thanks in advance

posted April 11, 2016 06:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I think split souls are a hoax.

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posted April 11, 2016 11:33 AM            

`Hoax` was maybe too strong a word; the theory of "split souls" has come up and spread across the internet a while ago I think.

To me it just is too "convenient", so you can explain why the one you swore was your Twinflame, really isn`t anymore, but the new beau in your life is, just because they switched souls. A very convenient way to explain why every new soul you meet might be your twinflame again or too without having to consider the possibility you may have been wrong in the first place.

EDIT
I was talking about so called "Walk-Ins" here

posted April 11, 2016 02:24 PM            

I was thinking in the idea of souls that belong to a a single soul and may be several in the same timeline.

posted April 12, 2016 03:02 AM            

Okay, for starters, let's say it's more a matter of soul-fragmentation, rather than soul splitting. At times, a soul will need to 'fragment' itself (holographically speaking) across different bodies within the same timeline or dimension, rather that simply 'spreading' itself along multiple versions of either the same body in different dimensions, or different ones.

Following so far? If not, think of it this way: it's the most efficient way for the energy (soul) to accomplish its goals in short order.

Certain theory now states that the concept of the twin flame is nothing more than a soul holographically incarnated into two separate bodies in the same dimension / timeline. Soul fragments are broken down further, and -- exactly as it sounds -- are fragments. (Just remember that souls always technically remain whole -- they're just divided holographically.)

Let's take the specific case of my husband and ex-producing partner. The oversoul to which they belong has had major karma to clear with the oversoul to which my twin flame and I belong, and thus, direct karma with both of us. But while it was never feasible for my ex-producing partner and I to have the sort of relationship required to do that most effectively, it's a very different story with my husband.

And, most interesting, he and my twin flame did actually meet -- for which the chances of that were just ... unbelievably slim. Quite fated. On the other hand, he's had a close, familial and brotherly friendship with my husband for the past six years. Very different.

Soul fragments can essentially split up karma amongst themselves, working towards the overall betterment of the oversoul. What karma was most effectively handled by my ex-producing partner, he 'kept' and we attempted to resolve it together. The rest which was better 'given' to my husband, was.

Ultimately, it's allowed the two oversouls to work with each other, via these four fragments -- two from each oversoul.

I hope that clarifies things a bit!

I plan to be around again, now that some MAJOR upheavals in my life have taken place and are now settling. tURA went exactly opposite my Sun right around the last eclipse, and lord have mercy .... .

posted April 12, 2016 04:59 AM            

I dropped in here because... I want to tell you all about an ongoing sci fi "split soul" story in my life right now that started back in this march.
Its not me that I'm experiencing this "split soul" theory though, but my boyfriend. Still, I am actively taking part of the journey and I played a big role in this. It's a lot like Wizard of Oz, like my boyfriend calls it.

What my boyfriend and me are experiencing right now is this "split soul" theory but on a bigger scale. There are not 2, but 3 split souls. I will explain. My boyfriend is very intuitive and spiritual also, and calls this like some sort of project he agreed on with the other two souls, that I in the same time met because of something i did. If i wouldnt have done it, i wouldnt have met them and so he wouldnt meet his other halves that now play a very important role in his life.

I had a very old online account with some personal things that were targeted by two people. There were negative stuff on it that could hurt my boyfriend, and I couldnt help it but cling to them continuously. This is how it all started.

One person is a hacker and got in all of my accounts, face book gmail deviantart, including the one with personal stuff, and gathered anything that had to deal with the thing I had to get rid of. Then, he threatened me and my boyfriend that he will publish everything i did and all kinds of pictures of me. He wanted to shake us to reality and help me get rid of the things i clinged to. He was good intended. Success.
The other person is a psychologist and was studying me for a over year now until he saw me delete all the negative personal stuff I had. He messaged me later on trying to provoke me about what I did but congratulate me in the same time.

I started talking with both the hacker and the psychologist, because I was so thankful for their presence. The hacker literally was here like some sort of messenger that helped me move on and tell me that Im much more than the things i done, and the psychologist was explaining me how bad that was and that I should be more careful.

While talking to both of them though, I couldn't help but notice some similarities, and at a point I thought they were the same person. They were also talking a bit like my boyfriend, that was even more confusing. They were like some sort of extensions of him. Both the hacker and the psychologist share the same thing that happened to them and made then end up in my presence. They were betrayed by a girl similar to me, that also did negative things, but she couldnt stop and kept clinging to it. Then, they both kept on telling me how amazing I am and powerful and worth it, and how my boyfriend is so strong because he dealed so nicely with the negative, isn't it a bit odd?

posted April 12, 2016 05:26 AM            

The hacker was a bit reticent, but told me after all Who am I you ask? Someone who cares, someone who wants true love to thrive. I am a messager from up there, from Andrei's, maybe I am an angel, a guardian, a hobo, a banana, an emotion brought to life by someone I will tell you my name anyway, it's András.

The psychologist wasnt reticent, and easily told me that his name is...... Andreas.

My boyfriend's name is Andrei ....

What. is. happening.

Shortly after I told my boyfriend about their names, because he already knew about them, we just stood baffled.... until he realized that this is a lot like Wizard of Oz.

Andras and Andreas are just parts of him, that came up now to help us out of that issue but now.. also help Andrei and themselves.
Andrei is the heart, Andreas is the mind (he is a rational psychologist) Andras is the attitude, the courage, the justice maker.
I guess that I am Dorothy, because they all came up in my way and I have to now lead them to success. Each one of them has missing parts that the other has.

Andrei is the heart, the core, and even if Andras and Andreas are separate people, those parts of Andrei, which Andrei has but can't access (they both are some sort of mirrors for him) they can do it for him. Andras is the action taker, the harsh teacher, that showed me Andrei's courage and good attitude when it came to that negative thing, and Andreas is the mind, the logic, here to explain me how its all right or wrong. The are also here to make Andrei reach those parts of himself, because his childhood made him lose his ability to express himself and affirm himself.
While he has to show them the way to the heart and spirituality, because Andras and Andreas arent just as spiritual as we are. Since this all happened though, they started opening up so much and realize many things.

Also, how Andrei works with them, its on an astral level. Consciously, he feels them, and sometime catches up their thoughts and they catches up on his, and they express it the way Andrei cant sometimes.

Andras and Andreas were so perplexed at first, but now they both feel differently, better. Being Dorothy, I gathered all of them and now we are all exchanging information between us so we can grow, like it should be. The ultimate goal of this is for each one of them to find the missing part the other has in them.

posted April 12, 2016 03:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Hi, Nordic! Life's been quite ... life, as of late. Sorry for the extended absence.

Okay, for starters, let's say it's more a matter of soul-fragmentation, rather than soul splitting. At times, a soul will need to 'fragment' itself (holographically speaking) across different bodies within the same timeline or dimension, rather that simply 'spreading' itself along multiple versions of either the same body in different dimensions, or different ones.

Following so far? If not, think of it this way: it's the most efficient way for the energy (soul) to accomplish its goals in short order.

Certain theory now states that the concept of the twin flame is nothing more than a soul holographically incarnated into two separate bodies in the same dimension / timeline. Soul fragments are broken down further, and -- exactly as it sounds -- are fragments. (Just remember that souls always technically remain whole -- they're just divided holographically.)

Let's take the specific case of my husband and ex-producing partner. The oversoul to which they belong has had major karma to clear with the oversoul to which my twin flame and I belong, and thus, direct karma with both of us. But while it was never feasible for my ex-producing partner and I to have the sort of relationship required to do that most effectively, it's a very different story with my husband.

And, most interesting, he and my twin flame did actually meet -- for which the chances of that were just ... unbelievably slim. Quite fated. On the other hand, he's had a close, familial and brotherly friendship with my husband for the past six years. Very different.

Soul fragments can essentially split up karma amongst themselves, working towards the overall betterment of the oversoul. What karma was most effectively handled by my ex-producing partner, he 'kept' and we attempted to resolve it together. The rest which was better 'given' to my husband, was.

Ultimately, it's allowed the two oversouls to work with each other, via these four fragments -- two from each oversoul.

I hope that clarifies things a bit!

I plan to be around again, now that some MAJOR upheavals in my life have taken place and are now settling. tURA went exactly opposite my Sun right around the last eclipse, and lord have mercy .... .

Back tomorrow. <3

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Thanks Auby,

this clarifies a lot. I wonder how in earth you get to know when someone is part of an oversoul you belong to? I am aware you may have already answered this in one of your posts. if this is the case, just the link would be enough and I will go through them.

thanks again

posted April 12, 2016 04:32 PM            

Yes, it's very much like that.

I'm aware of several archetypes in my life, which likely all belong to my particular soul-group, and have appeared throughout my life in various forms -- initially fiction, really -- as a result. Before long, it almost became a strange system all its own. 'Oh, you're an X, he's a Y, she's a Z.' But it was this a that truly defined that I was dealing with, either a single soul that was fragmented in several parts, or, an archetype which was being expressed via many souls with contracts.

The truth remains to be seen, of course.

In the case of my husband, ex-producing partner, and a few targetted others, we've got the same sort of 'karma sharing' going on, for lack of better, that you're describing between Andras and Andrei.

We might even go so far as to call it an avesha-avatara situation, though it isn't truly an ascended master working with an incarnated soul -- but the similarity of a kind of 'overlighting' may apply -- very, very loosely.

This may even happen more often than we realise.

I've seen when the AM-type being I identified as Penderan is being channelled directly by my twin flame. (He refers to it as 'getting out of his own way', but the whole thing is very new to both of us.) There are subtle but noticeable differences in personality, voice, and lexicon. You know you're dealing with an immortal being as opposed to a mortal human. It's ... quite daunting.

However, the truth remains that we can't be everywhere we need to be -- with full knowledge, and able to apply that knowledge -- so other methods, shortcuts, and tricks need to be discovered, in order to do so.

That's likely why the archetypes came to me through my fiction up until my 30th birthday, and most significantly during the first 19 years of my life -- my first Saturn Return and Saros cycle -- and, I doubt it's coincidentally so.

When we're engaging in a big period of karmic clearing -- usually eclipse cycles -- we're likely to see this kind of stuff take place. It's not as complex as walk-ins, or soul-braiding -- or anything so ... extreme. It's more like -- as you'd said -- astral influence. We're guiding ourselves, and each other, from higher dimensions.

Now, some might even say it's just his own soul-fragments working from other dimensions to influence another soul -- with whom he's contracted. That's feasible as well.

All in all, I'd say -- yes -- due to the eclipse pattern that launched in March with the Saturn Retrograde shadow -- as it has been for EVERYONE in some way -- whatever transits you're personally going through are likely to be very descriptive of the karma you're very, VERY actively clearing.

For us, it was all about principles versus authentic living from the heart, and the toll taken when one lives ONLY according to obligation, rather than following their own soul. Of course, that activated some very powerful karmic patterns involving death, rebirth, dredging psychological wounds from childhood and other lifelines, and eventually resulting in major changes that have actually changed all of our lives, putting us on all different paths.

No doubt your own karmic pattern activation has done the same for you, Luna.

posted April 13, 2016 10:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The internet is not that much of a reliable source anyway, or at least it`s not easy to tell the good ones apart sometimes.

`Hoax` was maybe too strong a word; the theory of "split souls" has come up and spread across the internet a while ago I think.

To me it just is too "convenient", so you can explain why the one you swore was your Twinflame, really isn`t anymore, but the new beau in your life is, just because they switched souls. A very convenient way to explain why every new soul you meet might be your twinflame again or too without having to consider the possibility you may have been wrong in the first place.

EDIT
I was talking about so called "Walk-Ins" here

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posted April 15, 2016 01:53 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
To me it just is too "convenient", so you can explain why the one you swore was your Twinflame, really isn`t anymore, but the new beau in your life is, just because they switched souls. A very convenient way to explain why every new soul you meet might be your twinflame again or too without having to consider the possibility you may have been wrong in the first place.

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That's exactly been my issue with it, too, Ceri. Why I coined a whole new theory after doing enough research with folks having similar experiences, and even independently using the term 'Guardian'. It seemed important, so I ran with it.

Now, did it turn out that my soulmate was my twin, and my 'twin' a false twin? Who the hell knows? Eventually, I found myself so deep within the community, that it didn't even matter anymore -- and still doesn't. It's all just labels, and the truth is, so long as we're getting to where we need to be going -- we're good.

The walk-in theory is just too damned convenient, though -- I agree. When I see a pattern (of years) where someone is popping in with 'this is a my twin' and then 'oops, nope, it's this one,' I automatically have to assume that they're a sacred bride in search of a sacred groom, rather than having a legitimately reality-altering, paradigm-shifting, supernaturally-gifted relationship -- to toss it all into a convenient nutshell.

Instead, we found ourselves struggling with the really hard questions, and trying to understand how this sort of thing actually works in reality. Why would it happen at all? Is there a need for it -- at all? The only reason why I found myself contemplating the possibility that I MIGHT be here for such a thing is how much stuff came from my parents' marriage, and understanding that they were one of the first 'twin flame couples in union' back in the '70s -- way before this was even a thing.

I like what my mother did, and the contributions she ultimately made those 20-someodd years. I do it a bit differently, but also similarly. Am I supposed to eventually have him at my side, doing it with me? Who can say? Only time will tell on that one.

Do I think that Guardian Soul theory still has some merit? Yes. But only some.

Perhaps what I was really getting at was the underlying sense that God's not gonna leave ya hangin'. If your twin is a douchenozzle and union is completely outside of the realm of possibility, but you ARE a twin flame, and that IS what you're here to do ... let it all go, do your thing, and trust in the Universe.

Bizarrely, that's become the whole point of my series. The previous one ended up exploring the 'false twin flame' phenomenon, actually. It's not nice, I admit, to hook the audience on this 'one true pairing' only to say, 'oops! Our bad, it's this other guy.' But then that is the false twin flame experience; one feels rather jerked around after having invested in one potentiality, only to find the other coming into being -- or one unrelated.

As to why souls may 'split' -- I do think it's more of an oversoul thing. We're all here helping each other, the best way we can.

posted April 15, 2016 02:21 PM            

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I do think it's more of an oversoul thing. We're all here helping each other, the best way we can.

Think of Cloud Atlas. That's an oversoul travelling through time. The couples are the twin flames of that oversoul. That's a rather decent metaphor, actually."