posted April 13, 2016 11:26 AM            

i feel this was a very karmic relationship. wasn't healthy, i constantly felt rejected or blocked by her. or she 'tried to build me up' - which i never asked for just that to be simply a supportive friend. telling me who/what is good or not good for me. it was a rollercoaster friendship - the good was reaaly good, the bad was torturing

i would be very grateful if you could give me some input on this realtionship. thank you!

composite:

progressed composite:

posted April 13, 2016 11:40 AM            

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posted April 13, 2016 12:17 PM            

I see you a have Mercury square Mars double whammy and your Mars squares her sun and her Mars (widely) squares your Sun. That could explain the tortuous feelings when things were bad.

posted April 13, 2016 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
Her Saturn also squares your sun which might be why you felt rejected by her. The Saturn person has a way of pointing out things that we don't want to acknowledge. Were these people actually bad for you and you just didn't want to see it?

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some were obvious and she just reminded me which i agreed with. then i noticed there were more and more people who were supposed to be bad for me. even the ones who helped me out when she went m.i.a. suddenly when i moved back to another country where she lives too. one day 'see you tmr' the next nothing... this in and out of my life always takes a big toll on me i noticed and sets me back (1 step forward 2 steps back for sure), sabotaging me. i was still there, hoping, she was always welcomed in my home, my father is more a father to her then her real one etc.
i feel when i did something bad to her i always apologised, and made sure not to do again. she made sure i paid for it and reminded me too. when she did something i was just left own my own.

posted April 13, 2016 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by VirgoPILL:

some were obvious and she just reminded me which i agreed with. then i noticed there were more and more people who were supposed to be bad for me. even the ones who helped me out when she went m.i.a. suddenly when i moved back to another country where she lives too. one day 'see you tmr' the next nothing... this in and out of my life always takes a big toll on me i noticed and sets me back (1 step forward 2 steps back for sure), sabotaging me. i was still there, hoping, she was always welcomed in my home, my father is more a father to her then her real one etc.
i feel when i did something bad to her i always apologised, and made sure not to do again. she made sure i paid for it and reminded me too. when she did something i was just left own my own.

small fragments from 'when bipolar met borderline'...

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I'm sorry to hear that. It looks like she has Venus square Uranus and her Uranus squares your Sun which is probably why she seems so unreliable to you and more than likely, to everyone else, as well.

posted April 13, 2016 01:39 PM            

somebody said her mars on my sn is like 'groundhog day' i know now what this means too in our case. and her chiron in my 7th too i think i'm getting to understand.

i read the sun-mars thread, and yes we had this weird competition always. i thought it was to progress, elvolve together but in the back of my mind i knew something was not right... why the jealousy or why any of us feel the other wants to put down the other?? still confusing to me at least.

do you see anything else in the charts?
i don't wan to make the same mistakes again (and again)

posted April 13, 2016 06:46 PM            

I hope more people chime in here to help.

posted April 14, 2016 06:01 AM            

as for me, i feel positive despite all the obstacles but hey it's time to simply walk the talk, nothing more. i'm so get use to heaviness that this transit isn't making any difference imo

jupiter transits add more optimism too tho

posted April 14, 2016 09:36 AM            

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Originally posted by VirgoPILL:
how is this saturn-asc transit effecting you, lacey?

as for me, i feel positive despite all the obstacles but hey it's time to simply walk the talk, nothing more. i'm so get use to heaviness that this transit isn't making any difference imo

jupiter transits add more optimism too tho

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I feel the same way.

Nothing too drastic has happened (knock on wood), I am taking a bunch of science courses this semester which has led to a lot of work, but I'm handling it pretty well, for now.

posted April 15, 2016 06:03 AM            

i think chiron-venus is always bringing wounds. according to liz greene the relationship is wounded before you were born. ading that opposition to that stellium, which includes saturn.

to be honest a relationship with that chiron-venus in 4th is going to be painful. you can look where this chiron falls in your chart, then you can see how this energy of the relationship affects you personally. the jupiter aspect may be reason for the good feelings, but you cannot delete Chiron-venus in 4th conjunction oppose sun-mercury-saturn

my take we bring relationship that teach us something. i dont know what this teaching is about. from what i noticed with my all situaion -moon -chiron oppose saturn and square jupiter is that some compassion is strong. my feelings of compassion are very strong, but the other good aspects (moon in 5th, venus trine pluto-uranus exact) sun-mars conjunction did not compensate for the pain we have inflicted to each other. it is like it is so hard not to be hurt in such a relationship. of course how this affects each person depends how the placement fall into your own natal chart and how mature you are to accept the purpose of the relationship, this in turn impact how the chiron may feel in the relationship. it can become healing..

i hope you are feeling better. in my case, i feel better of without him to be honest. anytime he enter my life it makes me regret to let him enter it. I am glad this time i was careful to not let go to far, but still it hurts...

best wishes

posted April 18, 2016 03:10 AM            

i'm sorry i haven't replied for a couple of days. i was thinking, trying to sum up things about this friendship or whatever was this. the more i think about it the more i feel like a creep and also creeped out by her, physically sickening... i need to put this on hiatus and move on.

lacey, good luck with your studies!

posted April 18, 2016 04:52 AM            

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Originally posted by VirgoPILL:
thank you nordicsoul for your reply!

i'm sorry i haven't replied for a couple of days. i was thinking, trying to sum up things about this friendship or whatever was this. the more i think about it the more i feel like a creep and also creeped out by her, physically sickening... i need to put this on hiatus and move on.

lacey, good luck with your studies!

i wish i had the money to enroll in to uni but by the time i get it and graduate there's no point in starting a career on the field i'm interested in i going to buy lottery tickets

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I will look with more care into all the charts and will come back with more comments tonight. bare with me!

posted April 19, 2016 09:20 AM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
it is interesting i share a similar pattern with someone i just finished the relationship today. this morning.

of course how this affects each person depends how the placement fall into your own natal chart and how mature you are to accept the purpose of the relationship, this in turn impact how the chiron may feel in the relationship. it can become healing..

Nordic

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how are you feeling, nordic? have you get to any conclusion what this relationship has thaught you?

posted April 26, 2016 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by VirgoPILL:
how are you feeling, nordic? have you get to any conclusion what this relationship has thaught you?

to check where composite chiron falls in each charts by this do you mean in synastry and in which houses?

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posted April 26, 2016 12:06 PM            

your pluto conjunct widely composite mars. that mars in 8th become activated by your pluto bringing of the deepth and frustratiion of the 8th. it makes you very vulnerable and very angry...

follow the same with all the composite planets and see if it touch something else.. i would agree with Todd.. not worth having this relationship...

posted April 26, 2016 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
did you see that composite chiron conjunct your DC? say no more. this relationship brings so much pain to you.

your pluto conjunct widely composite mars. that mars in 8th become activated by your pluto bringing of the deepth and frustratiion of the 8th. it makes you very vulnerable and very angry...

follow the same with all the composite planets and see if it touch something else.. i would agree with Todd.. not worth having this relationship...

it is difficult to let go on the pain and anger this cause on you with this 8th mars activating your pluto... but look at it from a karmatic perspective. maybe trying to realease the pain first and then trying to understand why this relationship came to you at that moment in your life. what was that you needed to experience. what reminders brought chiron?

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