posted April 19, 2016 03:27 PM            

1) There's a theory that it's possible to determine who in the relationship is a leader and dominates. We look at the rulers of 1st and 7th houses, which one is stronger. 1st - you. 7th - your partner. Can you please check and let me know if this is true for you.

Other questions:

2) If you have Mars, Saturn, Uranus or Pluto in your 1st house, has your relationship gone through painful transformations and are you the one in relationship who provokes stressful situations?

3) If you have Mars, Saturn, Uranus or Pluto in 7th house, is it true that you attract problematic partners? And again, has your relationship gone through painful transformations?

4) Does the planet in your 1st house describe you or your partner? Also the same for planet in your 7th?

5) If your 7th house ruler squares or opposes your 1st house ruler, have you been divorced? Do you find it difficult to form relationships?

posted April 19, 2016 03:34 PM            

My husband has sun conjunct Uranus.

posted April 19, 2016 04:45 PM            

Thank you! You don't have planets in 1st or 7th, simple me neither so I'm curious if the whole marriage/relationships big picture is better read in the charts of people who have some planets in their 1st and 7th houses. Hope somebody here has that!

So what about your Asc/Dsc? Would you say Uranus/Aquarius better describes you or your husband? You can also take into account your Uranus aspects (in your natal I mean).

I have Aries on my Dsc. I'm not married but Mars/Aries definitely describes the kind of person I need. So for me my Dsc shows what I need in relationships and who I need. Asc/its ruler/aspects better describes me and what I bring into relationships.

posted April 19, 2016 05:24 PM            

If he's projecting those planets/seeking that energy, in my own chart I have a Scorpio (Pluto) Moon and Venus sq. Pluto so there's the Pluto representation. Jupiter aspects nearly all of my planets (as part of a grand trine forming a kite) so there's that. I also have Capricorn (Saturn) Mars and Venus trine Saturn so there's the Saturn representation. As a bonus, my Gemini Sun conjuncts his Gemini Venus (DSC ruler).

What I am missing is the true expression of his Mars (Aries) projection unless you count my Mercury opp. Mars aspect.

So...on some level I meet most of his requirements but not all. I think he would be hard pressed to find someone who has ALL of those qualities...so which ones take precedence is hard to say.

posted April 19, 2016 07:27 PM            

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So what about your Asc/Dsc? Would you say Uranus/Aquarius better describes you or your husband? You can also take into account your Uranus aspects (in your natal I mean).

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Both, equally.

My Uranus squares his sun-Uranus (I know, sounds very stable doesn't it??? ).

The moon rules his ASC; Saturn rules his DSC. His moon and Saturn are sextile.

My ASC, Mercury, Venus, and Uranus all aspect his moon and Saturn.

His DSC ruler semisextile my DSC ruler. His DSC sextile my DSC ruler.

His DSC in Capricorn & I'm a Capricorn.

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Does the dominant, leader theory work for you then?What's stronger in your chart, Sun or Uranus? What about your husband? Let's see if it works.

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I'm not clear on that theory.

The sun is strongest in my chart.

I never ran a Walter Pullen dominant planets check on him. But he's quadruple Leo so I assume the sun is also his dominant planet.

posted April 19, 2016 08:45 PM            

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Let's see...

I'm not clear on that theory.

The sun is strongest in my chart.

I never ran a Walter Pullen dominant planets check on him. But he's quadruple Leo so I assume the sun is also his dominant planet.

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Well, you look at your Sun and Uranus as your 1st and 7th house rulers respectively. Check element and modality of rulers, aspects to them, house placement. Which house is stronger, 1st (you) or 7th (him)? check planets there too. I wouldn't rely on Pullen alone. It's fine, yeah..but it won't provide a complete picture.

For example, just like you I also don't have any planets in 1st and 7th houses. So I look at their rulers only: Venus and Mars. My Mars is definitely stronger. Venus is in Aquarius (not the best placement for Venus plus afflicted by square from Saturn), Mars is stronger because it is better aspected and although in Pisces (weak sign for Mars), it's in fiery 5th house (great placement for Mars). SO Mars wins. And because Mars is my 7th house ruler, it means that my husband material should be more dominant in relationship, this is something I will enjoy.

posted April 19, 2016 11:05 PM            

7th house ruler moon in aries, in the 3rd house. Square venus/asc/saturn/neptune/uranus. Trine 7th house jupiter.

No I don't lead, nor dominate. Neither does my husband (ugh it feels weird calling him that lol I don't think I'd ever get used to it).

I have respect and admiration for him. In some areas, such as financial matters, he lets me make the final decisions. What can I say, I'm good with money. But it's not like we don't discuss. He cares more about the ethical stuff. I don't do anything he opposes. And vice versa.

2. Saturn in the 1st house.

Yeah went through a lot of sht together. No I'm not the one that provokes stressful situations. Just circumstances, external factors..etc... His saturn return was a hellish time. But also a good time.

At the very beginning of the relationship we did lash out because the pressure was too much. But then we changed tactics and dealt with it well. It took me a short time to grow into my "rock solid" traits. Heh pressure makes diamonds. He also changed for the better.

3. I have jupiter in the 7th house. And chiron.

4. Yes to both questions. My s.o has cap asc, and 10th house saturn sextile it. He also has 1st house jupiter. I can see both influences in him.

5. There's a square. It's wide though.

posted April 19, 2016 11:26 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
margym0o,

Thanks! Pretty impressive how you represent what his 7th house wants, especially Scorp/Plutonian stuff. What degree of Libra is his Dsc in? Pluto is probably a co-ruler of his 7th (intercepted Scorpio), right? YOU are the dominant in the relationship, yes? Pluto is all about power after all ))

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I'd say it's pretty well even actually. We keep it balanced in typical Libra fashion. It's a very growth oriented relationship and we definitely have our share of heated moments, but it's deeply caring and loving as well.

His DSC is 5 degree Libra and his Jupiter just barely squeaks in at 0.56 Scorpio if that still counts as an interception. I'm not familiar with what that means. His Mars Saturn and Pluto are in Libra.

As for him with me, my DSC is at 26 degree Pisces so ruler is Neptune I guess (or Jupiter?). It could go both ways depending on which planet you count. Neptune natally falls in my 4th and he is a Cancer Sun (maybe stretching it a bit) and he has Venus/Neptune and Mars/Neptune in his chart so some Piscean flair there. If Jupiter, his Jupiter aspects his Sun and Venus in wideish orbs so not terribly strong but my Jupiter (in 6th) aspects his Sun, Moon and Venus if that can be included. I have no planets in my 7th or 1st (Virgo ASC) so it's more straightforward.

posted April 20, 2016 06:08 AM            

Who dominates?

Let's see...

My 6H sun rules the first house, it squares Jupiter and Pluto, is sextile the moon, novile Venus, quincunx Mars, in mutual reception with Saturn, sextile NN.

4H Uranus rules my 7H, it squares Saturn and Mercury, is semisextile Venus.

My sun is more powerful. My husband thinks I have all the power, and I think he has all the power.

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And because Mars is my 7th house ruler, it means that my husband material should be more dominant in relationship, this is something I will enjoy.

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posted April 20, 2016 06:30 AM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
The question that interests me most is this:

1) There's a theory that it's possible to determine who in the relationship is a leader and dominates. We look at the rulers of 1st and 7th houses, which one is stronger. 1st - you. 7th - your partner. Can you please check and let me know if this is true for you.

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My 1st House ruler is Mars. My 2nd House ruler is Venus. All throughout my relationships I had the control, from flings to marriage.

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Other questions:

2) If you have Mars, Saturn, Uranus or Pluto in your 1st house, has your relationship gone through painful transformations and are you the one in relationship who provokes stressful situations?

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
3) If you have Mars, Saturn, Uranus or Pluto in 7th house, is it true that you attract problematic partners? And again, has your relationship gone through painful transformations?

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I have Pluto in my 7th House. I am the one that pushes for painful transformations in the other person and they cause painful transformations in me. My relationships with others are always about how they have challenged themselves to see their true character or how they have not. It is not that they are the problem, it's that we both have problems and we have to work them out by being together. It's a process of burning each other down to nothing and being reborn again. Constant transformation. Pain is love sort of thing.

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
4) Does the planet in your 1st house describe you or your partner? Also the same for planet in your 7th?

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Yes to both. The planets ruling my 1st/7th houses and the planets in my 1st/7th houses.

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
5) If your 7th house ruler squares or opposes your 1st house ruler, have you been divorced? Do you find it difficult to form relationships?

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My 7th ruler doesn't square or oppose my 1st ruler. Pluto in my 7th opposes my 1st House planets though. Yes, divorce. Yes, it is difficult to find the right person but at the same time it's very easy to attract people. I'm just picky though. It's my choosing that makes it difficult.

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Thank you.

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You're welcome!

posted April 20, 2016 08:02 AM            

me- mercury, neptune/jupiter
husband- neptune/jupiter, mercury

2- no

3- yes!! My husband has Pluto conj Dsc and I have NEVER met a human that has had weirder/odd/disturbing things happen to him thanks to women!!! It's like a bloody movie :-/

4- Husband has Sun, Mercury in 1H and I am very Mercurial

posted April 20, 2016 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:

His DSC is 5 degree Libra and his Jupiter just barely squeaks in at 0.56 Scorpio if that still counts as an interception. I'm not familiar with what that means.

As for him with me, my DSC is at 26 degree Pisces so ruler is Neptune I guess (or Jupiter?).

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Ah no, then Venus is a solid ruler. Pluto is still important because it's in his 7th but it's not a co-ruler.

For you, 7th ruler is Neptune and co-ruler Mars (Aries). Dsc at 26 degrees Pisces so that only gives you 4 degrees of Pisces in 7th - not the strongest ruler. Look to Mars as well.

posted April 20, 2016 09:59 AM            

Thank you for answering my questions. I have more for you, if you don;t mind

First of all a small comment on Pluto in 7th, you being the one pushing for transformations rather than your partner. I think had it been a different Asc we'd see the opposite but Aries Asc is the initiator. Which house is your Mars in? And where is your Venus?

posted April 20, 2016 10:19 AM            

Right, your husband is my ASTROLOGICAL subject of interest because he has planets in both houses.

Pluto conjunct Virgo Dsc. That means the ruler of 7th is Mercury AND more importantly Venus (co-ruler because his Dsc is probably in the last degrees of Virgo, correct?). Where is his Venus and what are the aspects?

His Asc is in Pisces, with Sun and Mercury in 1st. Sun and Mercury in Aries? What aspects does his Mercury make?

posted April 20, 2016 11:23 AM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
charlie,

Right, your husband is my ASTROLOGICAL subject of interest because he has planets in both houses.

Pluto conjunct Virgo Dsc. That means the ruler of 7th is Mercury AND more importantly Venus (co-ruler because his Dsc is probably in the last degrees of Virgo, correct?). Where is his Venus and what are the aspects?

His Asc is in Pisces, with Sun and Mercury in 1st. Sun and Mercury in Aries? What aspects does his Mercury make?

Nice to see Asc/Dsc reversal. It's not common in synastries of couples but oh, so desirable.

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posted April 20, 2016 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
charlie,

Right, your husband is my ASTROLOGICAL subject of interest because he has planets in both houses.

Pluto conjunct Virgo Dsc. That means the ruler of 7th is Mercury AND more importantly Venus (co-ruler because his Dsc is probably in the last degrees of Virgo, correct?). Where is his Venus and what are the aspects?

His Asc is in Pisces, with Sun and Mercury in 1st. Sun and Mercury in Aries? What aspects does his Mercury make?

Nice to see Asc/Dsc reversal. It's not common in synastries of couples but oh, so desirable.

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His Pisces Venus is conj Asc. Sun, Mercury in Aries ( won't be going down THAT road again 0.0......kidding) Mercury is inconjunct Pluto and that is the only aspect it makes apart from being conjunct Sun.

I do like the reversal had it not been for the fact that I have Mars conj Asc opposite his Venus. It's as if we flip/flop being man and woman and it gets confusing at times.

posted April 20, 2016 01:14 PM            

so he has Venus-Pluto opposition too?? )) what a mix. He has Sun conjunct Mercury in Aries (1st house) in opposition to Pluto (7th). Plus Venus (12th) in opposition to Pluto. Did I understand it right? I'm trying to visualise his chart.

In your relationship, do you feel that he's the dominant and must get exactly what he wants from you?

Is he very vocal and outspoken about what he wants and needs in the relationship?

posted April 20, 2016 08:39 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
KoreAbyss,

Thank you for answering my questions. I have more for you, if you don;t mind

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You're welcome!

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
First of all a small comment on Pluto in 7th, you being the one pushing for transformations rather than your partner. I think had it been a different Asc we'd see the opposite but Aries Asc is the initiator. Which house is your Mars in? And where is your Venus?

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My Mars is in Aquarius 11th and my Venus is in Gemini 3rd conjunct Chiron.

I think the fact that Pluto is sitting in my 7th in Scorpio and the traditional ruler of Scorpio is Mars also plays a part. But my Venus in 3rd House, discussing, conversations, etc ruling the house Pluto is in. Venus/Pluto (Venus sesquisquare Pluto 0°), using discussion to transform. Digging up past hurts with words. Whether I realize it or not I'm using Pluto directly as a tool to connect.

Dating someone with Pluto in the 7th House? Beware! Here are 8 traits you should know about.

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Most important now, which planets do you have in your 1st house? I finally found someone with planets in both 1st and 7th happy happy

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I have Sun/Jupiter in my first house. Jupiter rules my 8th/9th, Sun rules my 5th. So again the 8th influence in my 1st with Pluto opposing my 5th/8th ruler. Look like I can't escape Scorpio energy! xD

posted April 21, 2016 10:50 AM            

Thanks for attaching the chart, that helps. You know, because you have been divorced, I had a feeling that apart from 1-7 opposition, you might have Venus in the 1st because it has a bearing on everything to do with relationships for you (Venus beiing co-ruler of your 1st and ruler of 7th house). But no, it sits in your 3rd house So I looked at aspects and yes, it's afflicted by opposition to Uranus and Saturn.

So I found 4 divorce markers now:
1) 1-7 opposition
2) Afflicted Venus
3) Cardinal signs on Asc/Dsc
4) Pluto square Mars (Pluto as co-ruler of 7th)

Are you a guy or a girl? Sun Taurus in 1st with Aries Asc - must be soooo stubborn, with Pluto in the 7th and oppositions to it you must be having it your way in relationships all the time.

I must ask about Mars in Aquarius in Aquarian 11th house! Wow.. And it squares your Pluto. Can you describe yourself? How Aquarian are you then? Cold, detached, promiscuous, likely to cheat, member of some groups, social circles etc? What's your Mars like? This is off-topic but I have to ask, not often you will see Aqua Mars in 11th, that's double Aquarius. I know someone with Aqua Mars but can't ask him anything, we're not in touch.