posted April 30, 2016 06:32 PM              

I'm throwing my hands in the air here. The charts are bad, with a little bit of good to get you hooked and fall in love and I'm so tired of starting over. He seems decent and normal enough but heck, we all have skeletons in our closet and he's a Saturn sq Venus person. I wonder what will go wrong this time. I rely too much on astrology? Not enough? Too crazy? Too desperate? All of the above?

I profoundly dislike not aspecting his Venus enough, or his DC ruler..

I feel doomed. I feel like all my efforts are in vain, I just can't have a successful relationship. I'm that f*cked up, it seems. And I'm going through a Neptune transit, I need to hear the truth. Astrology doesn't lie, does it?

posted May 01, 2016 04:29 PM            

I'm so sorry you feel like it's never going to end...

Please don't lose hope.

Whatever happens with that man, just don't lose hope.

posted May 01, 2016 11:14 PM            

But then, I'm still searching too... and getting pretty impatient to tell the truth. Neptune opposite nPluto and a bunch of heavy second house transits... Astro calls it "please wait". Grrr...

posted May 02, 2016 02:24 AM              

Doux,

That is probably the hardest thing for me to do, not lose hope. I'm just very frustrated and disappointed in myself because I feel I've tried hard yet failed every time. I've done therapy, hypnosis, currently working with a shaman and my progress is so slow it's almost negligible. One girl in my therapy group attended 3 sessions and bam, turned her life around just like that. Me? Still struggling in the dark. *sigh* I guess I really suck at this self work thing big time. Just love yourself and the rest will follow. Hahahaha. Right. As if you have an on/off switch. I'm at my wits end here.

Vajra,

Thank you dearly for your comments! Always very soothing. Yes, his Venus is square my Sun, by 5 degrees. I would have counted it, but astro.com does not. I make some aspects by declination to his Venus and Uranus, so maybe there is some slight hope. My Moon is parallel his Venus and my Venus is cp to his Uranus (not sure I should be happy about that one).

I understand what you're saying about self prophecy and checking the charts before the relationship is settled. I tried it that way too, not checking astrology for as long as I could contain myself and I'm not sure it's the best route for me. I have no idea what route works anymore, actually. I'm not relying on charts too much, nor am I postponing the first meeting because of Mercury Rx. We talked about Thursday, so that's when we'll meet. I guess right now my biggest concern is that he might not see me as relationship potential because of the scarcity of aspects to his Venus and Uranus. But we shall see.

I do like him a lot, more so each day, especially after I heard his voice on the phone. I appreciate he's taking it slowly and not coming on too strong. There's many things I like about him, actually there's not much to dislike, except maybe the fact that he seems domineering and we'll most likely butt heads. Also I don't think I mentioned, but if this works out, it would be my first interracial relationship (he's half black). I don't have any issue with that, but there was a time when he was making jokes about that and I simply didn't know how to react. We've cleared that part now, though. I like his staying power, he seems very solid and reliable. We're both social climbers (it's the Cap in us, I guess) so we'd probably appreciate the other one more due to that. My main issue with Cap Suns so far has been the fact that they don't communicate much - not an issue with him. There are some misunderstandings but we've talked about those and cleared some of them. His Gemini Moon is really helpful with this. My other issue with Caps is that they're workacholics, as am I, and we rarely see each other. They'd be more fitted with a more domestic partner, or one that has a more flexible schedule. But they seem to appreciate professional women and here we are.

We'll see, I guess. I'll update after the meeting, should clear the air about the direction this will take. I'll try not to have negative expectations, but I probably won't get overly enthusiastic about it either.

GB,

I definitely feel you on the whole waiting issue! Haven't I waited long enough?! *waves fist at the Universe*

posted May 02, 2016 02:34 AM              

Even t-Valentine is on his DC ruler lol. Speaking of his DC ruler, I've encountered several romantic interests lately with an important planet at 28-29 Scorpio but I can't figure out why, since my chart doesn't aspect that degree. Maybe I'll find out.

posted May 02, 2016 05:19 AM              

Those are our synastric aspects. I'm Sun in 2nd (horizontal).

EDIT:

Sorry it came out so big, I uploaded from my phone. :/

That's a very good, sound advice. To be honest, that's more or less what I was doing previously. I was quite relaxed about the whole thing. Things started to change after we talked on the phone and he told me he wants to be taken seriously by his romantic potential partners and dislikes it when there are other "competitors" lol. I think that's a Venus sq Saturn way of putting it lol. He said I'm his only interest right now.

The other thing that makes me a bit anxious was a reading I got 2 months ago from my go-to Tarot reader, who said I will meet a fire sign man in May, who's going to be my stable, committed partner. I didn't think it was this guy, because he's a Capricorn. I started to suspect he might be who my reader saw when I found out his Asc is in Leo (he does come off as a Leo, I asked if he was a Leo when we started talking lol) and reread the transcripts because it sounds a lot like him (owns his own business, domineering etc).

posted May 02, 2016 05:29 AM              

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Originally posted by Vajra:
You have a Sun-Venus DW.

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posted May 02, 2016 12:37 PM            

That grid certainly looks better than what I saw on the wheel.
Them orbs...

Also, Sun/Mars dw! That can be... interesting. Haha.

Yes, do let us know!

posted May 02, 2016 03:08 PM            

I'm not going to speak to your current feeling of 'doom' or to any of the self-fulfilling prophecies your astrological notions are feeding.

Your Venus is 165° Quindecile Saturn, a minor, but important aspect to note, since it is there (orb 1°36'). In addition, if your MC is around Scorpio, then Venus at 18N50 declination can be contra-parallel it.

posted May 02, 2016 05:40 PM            

1. Structural:

(a) Declinations were left out when defining it. Declinations are the essential second axis showing the north-south wave of planetary motion. Astrologers not using declinations have no business carving out such terms and concepts. A 2-dimensional flat wheel chart cannot portray the fullness of the 4+ dimensional sky or the dynamics of real astrology.

(b) Minor aspects are still aspects, so the use of the term 'unaspected' when there are minor aspects in involved is inaccurate at least and dishonest at worst. This is a result of the corruptions that occur with the popularization of astrology which has tended to seek quick-n-easy interpretations from a glance or cursory look at the flat wheel chart. I do in-depth study of every chart I take on because you are worth the time.

2. Subjective interpretation:

After many decades modern astrologers still have been unable to agree on how to interpret such so-called unaspected planets. So it becomes a convenient device, especially for the student or layperson to read into it
whatever they are inclined to see/feel. Some say the the planet considered 'unaspected' gets exaggerated into full-blown mode. Others insist such a planet is weakened, implying such energies are somehow handicapping the
person into bad outcomes or not having their desires fulfilled. You can't have it both ways.

This concept is one of the most useless in modern astrology, like an uninvited house guest who keeps overstaying a welcome they never got in the first place. Its structural definition is atrociously flawed, and no clear consensus has been achieved for what direction to go with interpretation.

It is important to understand that for astrology to be real not every concept used by humans performing astrology has to be true.

posted May 03, 2016 08:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
There are two substantial problems with the 'unaspected' planet theory.
(You can see how I dismantle it with real chart examples here: http://wp.me/p1UxSX-jKw )

1. Structural:

(a) Declinations were left out when defining it. Declinations are the essential second axis showing the north-south wave of planetary motion. Astrologers not using declinations have no business carving out such terms and concepts. A 2-dimensional flat wheel chart cannot portray the fullness of the 4+ dimensional sky or the dynamics of real astrology.

(b) Minor aspects are still aspects, so the use of the term 'unaspected' when there are minor aspects in involved is inaccurate at least and dishonest at worst. This is a result of the corruptions that occur with the popularization of astrology which has tended to seek quick-n-easy interpretations from a glance or cursory look at the flat wheel chart. [b]I do in-depth study of every chart I take on because you are worth the time.

2. Subjective interpretation:

After many decades modern astrologers still have been unable to agree on how to interpret such so-called unaspected planets. So it becomes a convenient device, especially for the student or layperson to read into it
whatever they are inclined to see/feel. Some say the the planet considered 'unaspected' gets exaggerated into full-blown mode. Others insist such a planet is weakened, implying such energies are somehow handicapping the
person into bad outcomes or not having their desires fulfilled. You can't have it both ways.

This concept is one of the most useless in modern astrology, like an uninvited house guest who keeps overstaying a welcome they never got in the first place. Its structural definition is atrociously flawed, and no clear consensus has been achieved for what direction to go with interpretation.

It is important to understand that for astrology to be real not every concept used by humans performing astrology has to be true.

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