posted April 30, 2016 11:52 PM            

I thought maybe we could do a little experiment using an Astrodienst option that isn't very common, the progressed New Moon chart (available on astro.com by selecting natal and Progressed New Moon under chart type). I'm not sure from which New Moon chart it's progressed, but it has -- like any New Moon chart -- Sun and Moon conjunct, so a more powerful place, which is (I think) triggered in very loving relationships. It may concern only the very intense feelings of attachment, affection or admiration ; I could only try it out a few times, though, so it'd be perfect if you could all share your synastries to help learn more.

Also, I've noticed a few patterns in synastries :

- nm SUN-MOON of one person conjunct, opposite, or square the other's within 4°00 [eh, not valid anymore, unless there's a big age difference and you don't have a hard aspect between your natal Suns]
- nm SUN-MOON in hard aspect to nm ASC (single aspect or both ways)

Finally, don't forget to check all your charts, the main ones here being natals (n), progressed (pr), and progressed new moon (nm) ; it's also very good to check synastry and composite for all three ; that's where I usually find many strong connections. Add in the asteroids you like ; I usually put in 447,1221,433,16,42,1923,193,268,3645,1469 [or personal asteroids : names, birthdates, etc.], but I'd be especially looking out for Valentine (447) or Isis (42) and Osiris (1923) here.

I'll post some examples I've already gone through soon. Thanks all !

posted May 01, 2016 12:30 AM            

I just checked mine and my beau's progressed New Moons and I was surprised to discover several fated aspects between our New Moons.

Firs that I noticed was that the ASC in my Progressed New Moon was at 3' Taurus, and that is the exact degree of his progressed New Moon - @ 3' Taurus. That is such an amazing conjunction right there, my ASC to his Sun/Moon.

Second, I noticed that the ASC in his prog New Moon chart was at 17' Virgo and his PNM Venus was at 18' Pisces, and they both are conjunct my natal Vertex axis at 18' Virgo -Pisces. My PNM Mars is at 17' Virgo as well.

posted May 01, 2016 05:40 AM            

pnm Isis on 23 Cap, pnm Osiris on 19 Cap, so their midpoint falls onto the Sun-Moon-conjunction exact

NM ASC has NM Amor conjunct by 1 degree and both falling onto my natal Sun-Mercury-conunction (NM Mars is in orb as well)

NM Uranus conjunct NM MC exact and on my natal 11th house cusp

NM Venus conjunct NM AVX

and the pr- natal aspects that stand out
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pSun-Moon conjunct n Avx
pSun-Moon opposite n Eros exact

pVenus trine n Pluto (1)
- I find that interesting as it transforms my natal square into a trine-

pMars conjunct n Sun-Mercury (1-2)

pJupiter conjunct nJuno (1)

pCeres conjunct n Juno exact

pJuno trine n Valentine exact

pValentine conjunct n Mars (2)
pValentine conjunct n Neptune-NN (3)
pValentine conjunct n ASC exact

pAmor conjunct n Sun-Mercury exact

pIsis conjunct n Avx (2)

p Orisir conjunct n Avx (2)

pASC conjunct n Sun-Mercury (1)

posted May 01, 2016 06:51 AM            

His pNM is on 26°55 Cap, which happens to be conjunct his natal Venus with 1 degree orb.

Interestingly the week we met he had pSun conjunct n Venus with 0°00 orb. lol

Anyway it does not make the 4 degree orb, but our New Moons are closish to each other

his: 26°55 Cap
mine: 21°35 Cap

and there are declinational aspects

his NM-Sun: 20°46 S
his NM-Moon: 18°00 S
his natal Moon: 18°56 S

my NM-Sun: 21°42 S
my NM-Moon: 18°18 S

my NM-ASC conjunct his natal Sun: 0°03
my NM-ASC conjunct his natal Moon: 1°39
my NM-ASC conjunct his natal MC: 1°16

his NM-ASC trine my NM Sun-Moon: 3°15
his NM-MC conjunct my NM Sun-Moon: 3°33

(and hence his own NM Sun-Moon is conjunct NM MC and all of it falling onto his natal Venus)

posted May 01, 2016 07:02 AM            

Wow, those are amazing connections ! Another case of nm Sun-Moon conjunct nm ASC, and the ASC-Venus right on your Vertex.

Ceri,

21° Cap must be a hugely receptive point of yours ! And How about synastry between progressed and progressed New Moon ?

posted May 01, 2016 07:24 AM            

Most importantly, the reason why I never found any connection to my natal Sun/Moon midpoint whereas it was always present in other synastries :

his nm SUN-MOON : 13°49' Sag
my n SUN/MOON : 12°10' Sag

(Midpoints have the forward slash, planets on the same degree have the hyphen.)

His nm AMBROSIA is conjunct his nm SUN-MOON by 1°30 while my nm SUN-MOON is opposite my nm AMBROSIA by 1°23 (and conjunct my n AMBROSIA by 0°45).

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my nm ASC : 12°34' Vir
my n EP : 14°22' Vir

my nm SUN/MOON : 15°43' Lib
his nm IC : 14°01' Lib

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his nm MARS : 13°15' Sco
his nm VENUS : 13°56' Sco
our c nm SUN-MOON : 14°46' Sco

my pr VE/MA midpoint : 18°38' Sco
his pr VE/MA midpoint :18°50' Sco

my n MERCURY : 17°32' Sco
my n SATURN : 15°13' Tau

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his nm ASC : 01°38' Leo
his n MOON : 00°52' Leo

posted May 01, 2016 07:39 AM            

yes, 21 Cap-Cancer is really big, actually all cardinal degrees around 20-21 (my Chiron on 20 ARies, I also have DNA on 20 Libra, Eros on 21 Cancer).

Funny enough my Arthur-Gawain-conjunction is on 21 Cap and synastrically Mr Sag`s Arthur-Casanova is conjunct my Guinevere-Adelaide on 10-11 Cap.

That made me giggle a little cause he performed both roles on stage, King Artus and Casanova. lol

Anyway will do synastry later.

But I did make a short check of my parents charts when they got married.
Interestingly my Dad had just started his new New Moon 2 years before, about a year after he first met my mom.

my mom`s New Moon is or was on 6 Scorpio
Dad`s New Moon on 27 Aquarius

So there was no aspect between them. however my Mom`s New Moon was conjunct her natal Sun on 3 Scorpio, square my Dad`s Sun on 5 Aqua and opposite his Moon on 1 Taurus, albeit widely. but it was activating their sparkly T-square of the luminaries (adding Dad`s BML)

they also had some parallels going on between their luminaries and p luminaries

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my brother and his gf are going to be parents for th efirst time this year, so I check this timeframe, not when they got together (10 years ago)

my brother`s New Moon: 23 Pisces
(conjunct his natal ASC on 25 Pisces)

his gf New Moon: 11-12 Aries

so there is no interaspect there.

however my brother`s New Moon conjuncts her natal Sun by 3 degrees and opposes her natal Moon by 1 degree (which overlays his relationship axis anyway)

Interestingly his pVenus also had reached the conjunction to her natal ASC, while her p New Moon was conjunct his natal Venus

and her p Venus on his p New Moon.
and her p New Moon seems to be on his p ASC and some more stuff like this, just not an aspect between the New Moons

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My best friend and her hsuband

her p New Moon 00 Libra
(she will have another one in 2 years though)

Funny enough HIS New Moon happend just 1-2 years after they got together, it is funny that I found this changing New Moon in male charts about 3 times already and I only checked four cases. lol

his New Moon 10 Aquarius

so not an aspect between them either

his New Moon opposes her Saturn exactly, which rules her DESC natally

posted May 01, 2016 07:49 AM            

my nm ASC : 12°34' Vir
my n EP : 14°22' Vir
his n ASC : 11°46' Vir
his nm SUN-MOON : 12°37' Pis
his nm URANUS : 12°48' Vir (roughly the same for n URA)
his nm PLUTO : 15°05' Vir (idem)

his n SU/MO midpoint : 13°27' Ari
his pr SU/MO midpoint : 15°54' Ari
his nm ASC : 16°39' Lib
my nm SUN-MOON : 15°43' Lib
my nm AMBROSIA : 17°06' Ari

(nm ASC conjunct nm SUN-MOON both ways)

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our c nm SUN-MOON : 29°10' Sag
our c nm IC : 29°31' Sag
my pr IC : 01°45' Cap
his n MOON : 01°22' Can
his n MERCURY : 03°24' Cap
his n VENUS : 04°25' Cap
my n MARS : 00°46' Cap

our c nm ASC : 29°37' Vir
my pr VALENTINE : 00°37' Lib
my pr ASC : 01°27' Lib
my pr VERTEX : 03°41' Ari

posted May 01, 2016 07:53 AM            

Yes, I think the New Moons aspecting each other is just one the many aspects we can have ; some of the important ones involve checking the composites and natals.

There was a thread some time ago here about famous couples, maybe we could use those charts for testing ? Edit : found it !

posted May 01, 2016 10:41 AM            

the progressed New Moon chart is the chart of the day you have a New Moon in your progressions!

So it is your natal chart that is being progressed to th date when your pMoon will be conjunct your pSun which happens roughly every 28 years I think.

posted May 01, 2016 12:25 PM            

With my current interest we don't have a hard aspect but our nm.Sun-Moon's are trine at 0°.

Ceri, that is interesting that the males you checked all had recently had their New Moon a couple years before. My interest had his in May 2013. *raises eyebrows* We met in May of 2015. *raises eyebrows further* Good catch!

Other aspects:

His nm.Anti-Vertex conjunct my n.Sun 1°
His nm.Sun-Moon trine my n.Moon 0°
His nm.Sun-Moon square my n.Venus 0°
His nm.Venus opposite my n.Eros 0°
His nm.Vertex conjunct my n.Psyche 1°
His nm.MC conjunct my n.Eros 0°

posted May 01, 2016 12:43 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by KoreAbyss:
My interest had his in May 2013. *raises eyebrows* We met in May of 2015. *raises eyebrows further* Good catch!

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posted May 01, 2016 12:53 PM            

I only had a peek at the progressed-progressed synastry but these I thought were interesting

my Sun-Moon square his Pluto-Vertex
exact
my Sun-Moon opposite his Juno exact
his Sun-Moon sextile my Juno exact
his Sun-Moon opp my Eros widely (3)

my BML conjunct his Priapus exact

my Juno opposite his Saturn exact

my Juno conjunct his Eros exact
his Juno conjunct my Eros (2)

my Pholus conjunct his Psyche exact
his Pholus trine my Eros (1)

my Eros sesisquare his Psyche exact
my Eros square his Pluto-VX (1)

my Amor quintile his Psyche exact

my nat Lilith conjunct his Venus exact
my nat Lilith conjunct his SN (2)

my DESC quink. his Sun-Moon exact
my ASC square his Saturn exact
my ASC square his Eros exact

posted May 01, 2016 01:41 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Since I'm not really getting any answers in Astrology 2.0, and I'm asking for an IA purpose, does anyone know how draconic declinations are calculated ? (Please...) Thanks !

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Your draco planets' declination = sun's tropical declination when it hits that degree?

For instance I have my husband's chart handy.

His draconic sun @ 22 Sag, 23°12' S.

That corresponds to Dec 15th the year he was born.

Using the same birth time and location, on Dec 15th the sun's tropical declination was 23°15' S.

I'm checking more now...

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ETA: Nope, doesn't work. You probably already know that!

His draco moon 20 Aqua, 17°32' S

That corresponds to Feb 9th the year he was born, when the sun's declination was at 14°S.

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posted May 01, 2016 01:47 PM            

my pMars conjunct his n Sun (3)

my pJuno opposite his n Saturn exact
my pJuno conjunct his n Avx exact
my pJuno trine his n Juno exact
my pJuno conjunct his n ASC (2)

my pEros opposite his n Venus (2)
my pEros square his n Pluto (1)

my pPsyche conj. his n SN (2)

my pAmor conjunct his n Sun (1)
my pAmor conjunct his n Moon (2)
my pAmor conjunct his n MC (2)
my pAmor square his n SAturn-VX-DESC (0)

my pLilith conjunct his n SN (1)
my pLilith conjunct his n Priapus (1)

my pASC conjunct his n Sun exact
my pASC conjunct his n Moon (1)
my pASC conjunct his n MC (1)

my pIC conjunct his n Vesta (1)

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his pSun-Moon opposite my n Priapus (3)

his pMars opposite my n Juno (1)

his pJupiter oppospite my n Ceres exact

his pSN conjunct my n Lilith (1)

his pAvx conjunct my n Chiron (1)
his pVX square my n Vertex-Eros exact

his p Juno conjunct my n Vertex exact
his pJuno conjunct my nEros exact

his pPsyche conjunct my nPholus exact

his pValentine conjunct my nAmor (2)
his pValentine conjunct my n Valentine (1)

his pPriapus conjunct my n Lilith exact

his pDESC conjunct my n Valentine (2)

his pIC conjunct my n Vertex (3)
his pIC conjunct my nEros (4)
his pIC conjunct my nPriapus (4)
- must fall onto the midpoint of my Eros/Priapus

interestingly our composite also shows an exact ERos-Priapus-conjunction on the IC.

posted May 01, 2016 07:38 PM            

quote:

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Firs that I noticed was that the ASC in my Progressed New Moon was at 3' Taurus, and that is the exact degree of his progressed New Moon - @ 3' Taurus. That is such an amazing conjunction right there, my ASC to his Sun/Moon.

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Interesting yes. I have this with my NEXT New Moon (nov. '21) to his natal Asc;

my prog New Moon: 26'00 Virgo
his natal Asc: 26'47 Virgo
my natal Sun/Moon midpoint: 26'59 Virgo
his conversed prog Sun: 26'53 Pisces

Also: MY conversed prog Sun 19'23 Gem on our composite Sun at 19'12 Gem at this time.

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So, now the thing we're looking at here.. our LAST prog New Moon, .. this is most outstanding;

Our natal-Compo Sun/Moon midpoint: 23'49 Virgo
Our natal-Compo POF (part of fortune): 24'33 Virgo

(we all know prob. that during a new moon the part of fortune is always exact conjunct the Asc).

So in our New-Moon Compo our Asc-POF;
24'37 Virgo.

His natal EP (east point);
24'56 Virgo

My prog Venus (when we met);
24'35 Virgo

wow haha

The big three I guess have muchhhh to tell ;D