posted April 12, 2013 12:45 AM            

For instance I just checked out from curiosity my synastry with a very cute guy from work, I seem to get on well with and our synastry is super good!
But I really like my boyfriend and he has a girlfriend too.

posted April 12, 2013 01:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Snorkel:
Funnily enough I have damn good synastry with David Bowie...which will never happen for obvious reasons lmao.

The guy I have the best synastry with though is my Twinsoul and we did happen...are still happening? Not sure...he's confusing me lmao.

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posted April 12, 2013 02:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Moonfish:
Yesss
me and my ideal guy pretty much have every soulmate combo: Sun-Moon, Sun-Saturn, Midpoint-Venus, Venus-Jupiter, Venus-Mars, Venus-Pluto, Juno-Jupiter, Eros-Psyche, Osiris-Isis, and Hera-Zeus. All of these are either a trine/conjunction (except hera-zeus is a sextile) under 3 degs. When I see stuff like that and know that we'll never be, I ask myself ...what's the point? T.T lol

As far as why, I'm leaning towards the North Node. I read a few sites state that claim many couple's synastry charts have at least one conjunction, opposition, or square between the Node and Planets.

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Aww, Moonfish come on, it may happen in the future *keeps fingers crossed*

posted April 12, 2013 03:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Moonfish:
Yesss
me and my ideal guy pretty much have every soulmate combo: Sun-Moon, Sun-Saturn, Midpoint-Venus, Venus-Jupiter, Venus-Mars, Venus-Pluto, Juno-Jupiter, Eros-Psyche, Osiris-Isis, and Hera-Zeus. All of these are either a trine/conjunction (except hera-zeus is a sextile) under 3 degs. When I see stuff like that and know that we'll never be, I ask myself ...what's the point? T.T lol

As far as why, I'm leaning towards the North Node. I read on a few sites that claim many couple's synastry charts have at least one conjunction, opposition, or square between the Node and Planets.

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Aw, I hope it'll happen in the future and no north node contact doesn't mean that nothing will happen.
I've had several of those nodes aspects and yet nothing happened.

To answer the original post, I really don't think it's possible to tell whether a relationship will happen or not. I've met guys whose sun was right on my dsc and moon. My sun was on their venus and there were several other very favorable aspects with them, well let me tell you I never felt a thing for them, wasn't even their good friend or anything.
Synastry can show us how compatible two people are with each other. If you have birth time then you can have an idea of how attracted they might be by looking at their angles, axis, and moon aspects. (I am not sure about this one but I am really starting to think that no angle aspects, no angle rulers, 5th or 8th aspects? then no attraction)
But the trick is that even with such aspects, nothing is guaranteed. I guess that's because there are outside circumstances and timing which synastry doesn't take into account.

posted April 12, 2013 06:28 AM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
Aw, I hope it'll happen in the future and no north node contact doesn't mean that nothing will happen.
I've had several of those nodes aspects and yet nothing happened.

To answer the original post, I really don't think it's possible to tell whether a relationship will happen or not. I've met guys whose sun was right on my dsc and moon. My sun was on their venus and there were several other very favorable aspects with them, well let me tell you I never felt a thing for them, wasn't even their good friend or anything.
Synastry can show us how compatible two people are with each other. If you have birth time then you can have an idea of how attracted they might be by looking at their angles, axis, and moon aspects. (I am not sure about this one but I am really starting to think that no angle aspects, no angle rulers, 5th or 8th aspects? then no attraction)
But the trick is that even with such aspects, nothing is guaranteed. I guess that's because there are outside circumstances and timing which synastry doesn't take into account.

It's an interesting subject though, in the end it would be really awesome if we could tell from chart analysis "never gonna happen" so we can move on or "that's it, s/he's the one".

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I wonder what made THAT not happen with you guys. Cuz I have almost exactly that synastry with my dude and oh, it happened, all right. LMAO

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
^Yeah, it doesn't happen because the composite isn't good.

The composite is what shows whether the people will come together or not, and the synastry is the chemistry between them.
Since the Composite shows how well your energies blend together, if the composite isnt strong, you will not naturally blend well together. There may be differences of how one of you feels about the other, there will be differences in personality which are not conducive to there being harmony between you. Regardless, it'll be hard to imagine that this person has your back no matter what and you wouldn't automatically think of yourself as "buddies."

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posted April 12, 2013 06:33 AM            

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Originally posted by its_aqua:
Okay, so has it happened to you to simply like or have a crush on somebody, check out your hypothetical synastry, see that you have an awesome synastry, but still never get involved with him/her??

For instance I just checked out from curiosity my synastry with a very cute guy from work, I seem to get on well with and our synastry is super good!
But I really like my boyfriend and he has a girlfriend too.

[b]So what do you think of cases like this? Isnt a really good synastry "meant to happen too"? How it is explained that we may get involved with people with who wr have mediocre synastries, but not with those we have the best?? [/B]

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I have very good synastry with a guy friend of mine-- it has mostly trines and sextiles with a couple of oppositions and squares. It's too complacent of a synastry and I'm not the type who likes a complacent synastry but this was one of the exceptions. I liked him in the not so distant past. He would have been my idea of a perfect guy: witty, fun-loving, kind, tall, good-looking...... but gay XD We're super close now, he's the male Aries friend I mentioned in another thread. He says that I'm like the girl version of him. I feel the compatibility between us, which probably makes us very good friends.

posted April 12, 2013 08:57 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
^Yeah, it doesn't happen because the composite isn't good.

The composite is what shows whether the people will come together or not, and the synastry is the chemistry between them.
Since the Composite shows how well your energies blend together, if the composite isnt strong, you will not naturally blend well together. There may be differences of how one of you feels about the other, there will be differences in personality which are not conducive to there being harmony between you. Regardless, it'll be hard to imagine that this person has your back no matter what and you wouldn't automatically think of yourself as "buddies."

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My understanding of the composite is like a natal chart of the relationship itself and is only valid if a relationship actually exists. As to having an "awesome" synastry, doesn't that have to do with what a person's definition of a great synastry happens to be? And it all comes down to an individual's birthchart. If one person has a lot of hard aspects in their natal, they won't want a synastry with a lot of flow and if the other has a lot of flow in their natal, they won't want a synastry with a lot of hard aspects. For the synastry to be truely "awesome", the two individuals would have to have a similar balance of tension to flow in each of their natals AND the synastry would have to match those. Personally, I think most synastries with a lot of flow will NEVER get off the ground because there's no SPARK to start the fire!

posted April 12, 2013 11:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
My understanding of the composite is like a natal chart of the relationship itself and is only valid if a relationship actually exists. As to having an "awesome" synastry, doesn't that have to do with what a person's definition of a great synastry happens to be? And it all comes down to an individual's birthchart. If one person has a lot of hard aspects in their natal, they won't want a synastry with a lot of flow and if the other has a lot of flow in their natal, they won't want a synastry with a lot of hard aspects. For the synastry to be truely "awesome", the two individuals would have to have a similar balance of tension to flow in each of their natals AND the synastry would have to match those. Personally, I think most synastries with a lot of flow will NEVER get off the ground because there's no SPARK to start the fire!

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You don't need hard aspects for sparks, you just need any kind of contacts involving Venus Mars and the Moons of the two people involved. Plus, honestly a lot of people like flow, and want a mellow pleasant relationship. Not everybody wants a big dramatic roller coaster ride.

posted April 12, 2013 11:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Snorkel:
Plus, honestly a lot of people like flow, and want a mellow pleasant relationship. Not everybody wants a big dramatic roller coaster ride.

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That was exactly my point - what someone wants all goes back to their natal chart and if one person in the synastry wants a rollercoaster ride and the other wants a mellow pleasant relationship, well! SOMEONE is going to be dissatisfied!

And I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU about the free choice.

posted April 13, 2013 02:49 AM            

A relationship starts when progressed charts point to it. You can even add transits in there but it's more subtle.

posted April 13, 2013 05:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
The answer is probably: progressions.

A relationship starts when progressed charts point to it.

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I second that.

As to the composite question.
I definitely have noticed it having impact, even if two people are not in a relationship (well we always relate to others in some way, relations are not limited to romantic partnerships).

This was especially true when the two people have "shared a physical space". Everytime that happened to me, something shifted, like the "connection" was anchored more in the physical.
Also usually this moment will show up strongly in the synastry, composite and progressed charts.

In my case the composite Sun was conjuncted by an outer planet, most of the time Pluto.

The composite is actually not an independent thing, having nothing to do with the synastry.
As in both cases the natal charts are the base of the composite.

If two people have the same natal aspect/ angle in the same phase (waning or waxing), it will occur in the composite again.

If two people have the complimentary phasal angle between two planets natally (one has it waxing, the other waning), then these two planets will be conjunct (or opposite maybe) in the composite.

If there is the same angle between the same planets in synastry, one being waxing, the other waning, it resutls in a conjunction in composite.

It does not even have to be a traditional aspect, it suffices if the angle is the same.

In an composite of mine there is an exact Moon-Mercury-conjunction.

his Moon to my Mercury: 57° - waxing sextile
my Moon to his MErcury: 303° - waning sextile

Since both angles are exact, of course the conjunction in composite is exact, too.

The composite may (or may not) be quintessential in determining the materialization potential of a relationship, but it is NOT independent of the natal charts and consequently synastry. Without the angular distances between natal planets there would be no composite.

posted April 13, 2013 09:31 AM            

Here's a another perspective - that makes this easier to understand - "just look at your natal chart" - it's like a "basic user manual (it shows a personal physiological profile and potential that can lead to all kind of outcomes)" of your life, yet it's so complex - that even experienced astrologers with years of experience - are still learning how to use it and even stumble upon the basics, as - it's ever changing and "there are so many options/choices" to take in consideration.

Personally (both theory and experience wise) - I find Basil Fearrington's (he's an experienced astrologer) point of view on synastry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eONh9WgWvLo - quite accurate. Just check it out - you might find it useful and learn something from it.

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posted April 13, 2013 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
I think most synastries with a lot of flow will NEVER get off the ground because there's no SPARK to start the fire!

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posted April 13, 2013 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Personally, I think most synastries with a lot of flow will NEVER get off the ground because there's no SPARK to start the fire!

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Yes, I agree with that. Have seen this over and over again.
The sparks are needed to start the fire, though the flowing aspects are also needed for enjoying it when it`s underway.

posted April 13, 2013 03:47 PM            

I had a Eros-Pluto, Nessus-Mars, Sun-Venus, BML-Mars/Venus and other spicy aspects with someone but they thought I was ugly.

posted April 13, 2013 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by its_aqua:
Okay, so has it happened to you to simply like or have a crush on somebody, check out your hypothetical synastry, see that you have an awesome synastry, but still never get involved with him/her??

For instance I just checked out from curiosity my synastry with a very cute guy from work, I seem to get on well with and our synastry is super good!
But I really like my boyfriend and he has a girlfriend too.

[b]So what do you think of cases like this? Isnt a really good synastry "meant to happen too"? How it is explained that we may get involved with people with who wr have mediocre synastries, but not with those we have the best?? [/B]

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