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SunAscendant
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posted May 02, 2016 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't get this guy I recently dated out of my head, and the synastry shows the reason(s) why I shouldn't push him out of my head

COMPOSITE

- I read in this old forum post that Sun/Venus conjunctions in the composite are important and one of the best composite aspects.

- Sun & Venus conjunct in the 12th (4.34 degree orb)

- North Node & Vertex in almost exact conjunction in the 5th house (0.01 degree orb)

- Moon conjunct the North Node & Vertex in the 5th (1.54 and 1.55 degree orb respectively)

- Sun sextile Mars (0.17 degree orb)

- Venus sextile Mars (4.17 degree orb)

- Venus sextile Jupiter (1.66 degree orb)

- North Node, Moon & Vertex trine MC

Obviously you can see the negative aspects like Chiron smack dab on the composite AC, & Saturn in the 7th conjunct the DC and opposite Chiron.

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SYNASTRY (I'm the outside chart)

- My Destinn exactly conjunct his Juno

- My Jupiter conjunct his AC

- My Angel conjunct his North Node

- My North Node and Moon close to his 5th house cusp

- My Moon conjunct his Devine

- My 8th house cusp conjunct his Vertex

- His Mercury trine my North Node

- His Sun sextile my AC

- My Sun & Moon trine his AC

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posted May 03, 2016 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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llewsacm
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posted May 03, 2016 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, it looks very fated and profound. I'm just curious, did you too break up just before the holidays? Say around mid-November last year?

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posted May 03, 2016 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by llewsacm:
Yes, it looks very fated and profound. I'm just curious, did you too break up just before the holidays? Say around mid-November last year?

No, it was on Valentine's Day. Also, I'm sadly starting to realize that this feeling of "meant to be" is only shared by me

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posted May 03, 2016 03:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how were the overlays (conjunctions and oppositions) of the composite to each natal chart?

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posted May 03, 2016 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
how were the overlays (conjunctions and oppositions) of the composite to each natal chart?

I think most of the benefic composite planet degrees were conjunct my natal planets and the malefics were conjunct his, but I'm not certain. I don't usually compare composites to natal. You can see the natals in the synastry chart which is the second posted (I'm the outside one and he's the insde).

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quote:
Originally posted by SunAscendant:
I don't usually compare composites to natal. .

More often than not it becomes very obvious how someone is affected by the relationship by doing this.

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todd
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posted May 03, 2016 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi Sun Ascendant

the reason you can't seem to get pat this is the exact node/vertex conjunction.this aspect, whatever the rest of the chart portrays, gives an intense sense of destiny/karma. when these two are conjunct, there are numerous similarities on your separate experiences. odd coincidences are the same,lifes tricks are the same. this conjunction just gives such a synchronistic similarity that one easily begins to think of soul mate concepts. this conjunction gives a very strong psychic connection and it seems that these intimate karmic and psychic similarities can only serve to bind you together.

initially this feeling was powerful enough for you to get with this guy even though he is not really your type. with mars square to Chiron on the ascendant, he was not what you usually arte drawn to to but his edginess some how entranced you in this case.

the power of the node and vertex overwhelmed you as the moon was conjunct to these also. the power of this conjunction can be seen in the fact that the composite even has a Saturn/lilth conjunction square to pluto and you still took the bait.
Saturn square to pluto is an extemely cold and manipulating aspect. it may be that with lilth /Saturn brought a sense of security to you.

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posted May 03, 2016 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your chart aspects his ascendant in kind of ridiculously positive ways, so you're always going to be seeing him through rose coloured glasses... while on the other hand his South Node is near your ascendant. I've found that to be a really tricky aspect. I have a double whammy with a friend of mine and sometimes i feel like she really is dragging me down...

quote:
Originally posted by SunAscendant:
I think most of the benefic composite planet degrees were conjunct my natal planets and the malefics were conjunct his, but I'm not certain.

Bingo... sounds hard, I'm sorry to hear about this.

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I don't usually compare composites to natal. You can see the natals in the synastry chart which is the second posted (I'm the outside one and he's the insde).[/b]

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posted May 03, 2016 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Your chart aspects his ascendant in kind of ridiculously positive ways, so you're always going to be seeing him through rose coloured glasses... while on the other hand his South Node is near your ascendant. I've found that to be a really tricky aspect. I have a double whammy with a friend of mine and sometimes i feel like she really is dragging me down...


I knew that we definitely had a karmic aspect. I'm positive we were married in a past life or like bitter exes

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posted May 03, 2016 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
hi Sun Ascendant

the reason you can't seem to get pat this is the exact node/vertex conjunction.this aspect, whatever the rest of the chart portrays, gives an intense sense of destiny/karma. when these two are conjunct, there are numerous similarities on your separate experiences. odd coincidences are the same,lifes tricks are the same. this conjunction just gives such a synchronistic similarity that one easily begins to think of soul mate concepts. this conjunction gives a very strong psychic connection and it seems that these intimate karmic and psychic similarities can only serve to bind you together.

initially this feeling was powerful enough for you to get with this guy even though he is not really your type. with mars square to Chiron on the ascendant, he was not what you usually arte drawn to to but his edginess some how entranced you in this case.

the power of the node and vertex overwhelmed you as the moon was conjunct to these also. the power of this conjunction can be seen in the fact that the composite even has a Saturn/lilth conjunction square to pluto and you still took the bait.
Saturn square to pluto is an extemely cold and manipulating aspect. it may be that with lilth /Saturn brought a sense of security to you.

todd


I feel like the node/vertex aspect has to count for something! I mean sure we have bad aspects, but the positives are far more abundant. I don't get how this karmic bond can only entrance and ensnare me and do absolutely nothing to him. Numerous synchrknicities are definitely present. If I do an anagram of my whole name I am able to come up with his last name as one of the anagrams. His last name is an uncommon Japanese last name. His first name is Kurt and like when I met him I suddenly began hearing Nirvana songs all over the radio (it's started again this past month) and on the Netflix suggestions I was constantly given Kurt Cobain's documentary in the suggestions for what to watch.

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posted May 03, 2016 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Your chart aspects his ascendant in kind of ridiculously positive ways, so you're always going to be seeing him through rose coloured glasses... while on the other hand his South Node is near your ascendant. I've found that to be a really tricky aspect. I have a double whammy with a friend of mine and sometimes i feel like she really is dragging me down...


South Node could also denote us being together in a past life and needing to come together for a short time in this life and settle a score that I'm not even sure we did or what that "score" could be.

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posted May 03, 2016 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
hi Sun Ascendant

the reason you can't seem to get pat this is the exact node/vertex conjunction.there are numerous similarities on your separate experiences. odd coincidences are the same,lifes tricks are the same. this conjunction just gives such a synchronistic similarity that one easily begins to think of soul mate concepts. this conjunction gives a very strong psychic connection

initially this feeling was powerful enough for you to get with this guy even though he is not really your type. with mars square to Chiron on the ascendant, he was not what you usually arte drawn to to but his edginess some how entranced you in this case.

the power of the node and vertex overwhelmed you as the moon was conjunct to these also. the power of this conjunction can be seen in the fact that the composite even has a Saturn/lilth conjunction square to pluto and you still took the bait.
Saturn square to pluto is an extemely cold and manipulating aspect. it may be that with lilth /Saturn brought a sense of security to you.

todd


We did have similar life experiences (he is more outgoing though because of his Sag moon; I think it's actually pretty odd that I have a Cap moon and he has a moon right next door in Sag... idk out of all the signs it was a sign next to my moon sign). I am probably going to sound like one of those crazy chicks, but man I feel like he eventually has to come around. How do you have such karmic synastry and a similar composite without being in a committed relationship? Even the bad aspects are karmically bad aspects that COULD be found with twinflames and soulmates. He was very obsessed with me at first and I held off because I felt he was too outgoing and different as you said, but I obviously came to my senses... and he changed his mind which was the worst decision for him.

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posted May 04, 2016 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[b] Has anyone heard of the Davison chart ? You calculate the midpoint in time between the two birth dates and birth times and the midpoint in space between the latitudes and longitudes of the two birthplaces. The end result is a chart that has a date, time, and location, just like a natal chart.

I did our Davison chart below and I'm even MORE confused as to how we weren't able to have a committed relationship.

DAVISON RELATIONSHIP CHART

[i]- This chart shows an arrow literally pointing towards the 7th house

- There's also an Earth trine

- A ton of positive aspects like North Node trine the MC, Sun exactly conjunct the DC and Venus in the 7th close to the DC as well.

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posted May 04, 2016 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
while on the other hand his South Node is near your ascendant. I've found that to be a really tricky aspect. I have a double whammy with a friend of mine and sometimes i feel like she really is dragging me down...


Wait, do you mean his 10th house South Node? I think his SN is close to my 12th house SN but not super close to my AC. My SN in my 12th is close to my AC though.

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posted May 04, 2016 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
hi Sun Ascendant

The composite even has a Saturn/lilth conjunction square to pluto and you still took the bait.
Saturn square to pluto is an extemely cold and manipulating aspect. it may be that with lilth /Saturn brought a sense of security to you.

todd


Even though it's the composite which means that both of us should experience the energy of the aspects, do you think he experiences the negative aspects of Saturn conjunct Lillith and square Pluto while I did not experience those? I feel he has some resentment towards me that I don't feel towards him.

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posted May 04, 2016 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
hi

initially this feeling was powerful enough for you to get with this guy [b] even though he is not really your type. with mars square to Chiron on the ascendant, he was not what you usually arte drawn to to but his edginess some how entranced you in this case.

todd[/B]


I just realized that this paragraph reminded me of a horary I did a few months back asking who my next bf would be. My delineation concluded it would be someone different than my usual type as you said about this guy. Also, in the horary he is represented as Mercury ruler of the 7th House Gemini, and his natal sun and asc also happen to be ruled by Mercury (Virgo and not Gemini). Just another synchronicity...

Here's the horary chart.

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posted May 04, 2016 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KoreAbyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're going to have to let it go. You can't force it. The way you talk about him is disrepectful as well.

He is doing what he needs to do. Respect that.

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posted May 04, 2016 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KoreAbyss:
You're going to have to let it go. You can't force it. The way you talk about him is disrepectful as well.

He is doing what he needs to do. Respect that.


What are you talking about? I've never said anything negative about him. Maybe you shouldn't really talk since you've only been a member for a month. Provide some actual chart delineation before you criticize like an ignorant fool or don't bother commenting.

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posted May 04, 2016 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KoreAbyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SunAscendant:
and he changed his mind which was the worst decision for him.

This is disrespectful. I find your problem with letting this go and your "I am right, astrology agrees, he is wrong" attitude dangerous and I will not refrain from expressing that opinion no matter my post count.

You said you think you might sound crazy. Accept that you said that and the fact that others might agree with you on it.

My goal here is to protect the boundary that he has set. And to let you know that you sound very close to justifying crossing it.

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posted May 04, 2016 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KoreAbyss:
This is disrespectful. I find your problem with letting this go and your "I am right, astrology agrees, he is wrong" attitude dangerous and I will not refrain from expressing that opinion no matter my post count.

You said you think you might sound crazy. Accept that you said that and the fact that others might agree with you on it.

My goal here is to protect the boundary that he has set. And to let you know that you sound very close to justifying crossing it.


Who the hell are you to tell me that I think I'm right? It's MY chart and HIS chart and how I see it. If you knew anything about astrology or bothered to read the commebts you would see people saying that we have aspects in our synastry and composites that DO indicate a karmic partnership. I am justified to say that I do believe astrology tells me thaf him and I are a good match. Don't you tell me I'm crossing any line when it's my chart and his chart and I know our situation. Clearly you don't know astrology so don't bother posting on my post. I only accept comments from people who provide information on the charts and who understands astrology, not people who have only been on this site since April and don't provide anything. Buh bye and don't come back.

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posted May 04, 2016 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SunAscendant:
We did have similar life experiences (he is more outgoing though because of his Sag moon; I think it's actually pretty odd that I have a Cap moon and he has a moon right next door in Sag... idk out of all the signs it was a sign next to my moon sign). I am probably going to sound like one of those crazy chicks, but man I feel like he eventually has to come around. How do you have such karmic synastry and a similar composite without being in a committed relationship? Even the bad aspects are karmically bad aspects that COULD be found with twinflames and soulmates. He was very obsessed with me at first and I held off because I felt he was too outgoing and different as you said, but I obviously came to my senses... and he changed his mind which was the worst decision for him.

but man I feel like he eventually has to come around. How do you have such karmic synastry and a similar composite without being in a committed relationship?

karma is both good and bad. many relationships that existed in a past life are destructive then and again now. one must learn from destiny/karma or one can repeat the problems.

in my experiences the Saturn/Pluto square is extremely bad and dooms a relationship no matter how much you want the"good" aspects to prevail. in my experience bad squares such as this are not offset by trines and sextiles.

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posted May 04, 2016 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
but man I feel like he eventually has to come around. How do you have such karmic synastry and a similar composite without being in a committed relationship?

karma is both good and bad. many relationships that existed in a past life are destructive then and again now. one must learn from destiny/karma or one can repeat the problems.

in my experiences the Saturn/Pluto square is extremely bad and dooms a relationship no matter how much you want the"good" aspects to prevail. in my experience bad squares such as this are not offset by trines and sextiles.

todd


My parents and grandparents have this Saturn/Pluto square and have been together for almost 30 years which is surprising for having such a terrible aspect in synastry.

In my situation I think perhaps if he really thought about it he would want to reconcile. I think this whole situation could POSSIBLY be turned around for the better if he just remembered the numerous times he said we were so similar and a "once in a lifetime match". If he was able to really think deeply about those words he uttered many times, then I think the Saturn square Pluto aspect could possibly be handled like how my parents are grandparents have handled theirs...

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posted May 04, 2016 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SunAscendant:
My parents and grandparents have this Saturn/Pluto square and have been together for almost 30 years which is surprising for having such a terrible aspect in synastry.

In my situation I think perhaps if he really thought about it he would want to reconcile. I think this whole situation could POSSIBLY be turned around for the better if he just remembered the numerous times he said we were so similar and a "once in a lifetime match". If he was able to really think deeply about those words he uttered many times, then I think the Saturn square Pluto aspect could possibly be handled like how my parents are grandparents have handled theirs...


do you paernts and grandparents each have a Saturn/pluto square in their respective natal charts?
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posted May 04, 2016 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
do you paernts and grandparents each have a Saturn/pluto square in their respective natal charts?
todd


Just my mom. They're in a separating 1 degree square.

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