posted May 03, 2016 09:48 PM            

Recently I’ve been thinking about anther factor which might pull people together….

When a person influences our relationship houses, and Vertex Axis, along with sharing traditional physical attraction aspects with us, we are attracted to them as an individual.

But what if the composite of a particular relationship (rather then the individual themselves) impacted our chart in this way. Would that mean we’d fall in love with the dynamic we have with this person (how we work together with them, and the chemistry we have with them), rather then the individual themselves. Like when we’re around each other we’d get a certain feeling that would just be exciting to us because of how the relationship feels.

I’ve noticed that when the composites of a couple impact my Vertex Axis I find their ’story’ of how they came together and such very interesting. The Vertex Axis does describe the fateful events and turning points we have in life so this makes sense.

How about everybody else out there…

Do planets in your composite with a love interest aspect your 5th, 7th, and 8th house rulers?

Do planets in your composite fall into your 5th, 7th, and 8th houses?

Do planets in your composite aspect or fall into your secondary 7th house? (for example, if you have a Gemini Dsc the 3rd house is your secondary 7th house, and if you have a Taurus Dsc then the 2nd house is your secondary 7th house)

Do planets in your composite aspect your Venus or Mars, or make other ‘attraction aspects’ with your chart? A good examples are your Venus trine the composite Mars, your Sun conjunct composite Moon, and so on.

Do planets in your composite fall into the secondary houses of Venus for men, or Mars for women? A man with Venus in Scorpio would be extra attracted to his 8th house symbolism and women with planets there, a women with Mars in Gemini would be attracted to her 3rd house symbolism and men with planets there. If the composite were to put planets there instead there may be the feeling that the relationship allows the partner to act like an ideal mate?

Another thing to consider is if the composite has planets sitting on our important natal mid-points. Like Sun/Moon, or Venus/Mars mid-points. Or even 7th house/5th house ruler mid-points, and so on. Any mid-point that might be significant to liking/attraction with another.

posted May 04, 2016 03:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:

But what if the composite of a particular relationship (rather then the individual themselves) impacted our chart in this way. Would that mean we’d fall in love with the dynamic we have with this person (how we work together with them, and the chemistry we have with them), rather then the individual themselves. Like when we’re around each other we’d get a certain feeling that would just be exciting to us because of how the relationship feels.

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I`ve been thinking that for some years, too. But recently my perception of this shifted a little.

Well I still think it is true, however I think we should not undervalue or downplay that scenario, for several reasons.

1. it IS just as individual as the individual synastry, because each composite contains both individual people of course.

2. The experience of the relationship dynamic might have a very strong effect on our attraction, but maybe even more so the compatibility in terms of relationship-reality. Hope that is not too much of a warped sentence. lol

What I mean is, I`ve noticed that sometimes we can be very attracted to another individual and really like them and their personality, but whenever we get close or are with them, it somehow doesn`t work. We like them, but we seem to not work as a pair.

I also noticed that sometimes we might share a lovely composite with someone, but we are simply not motivated to "go there", which usually coincides with there not being any relevant hooks into our natal chart. the composite being like a beautifully wrapped gift, but noone really wants to unwrap it.

So yes I DO think that the relationship dynamis can be a very impactful thing on us being attracted, feeling compatibile and maybe even just feeling motivated to BE with them in the first place (in what way ever).

And it can also be some sort of hook when we can`t really grasp what it is that makes us going back for more everytime, or that makes us feeling pulled in despite maybe the other person not being "our type" (at least not as much as we are aware of. of course there is something that resonates, but we do not ALWAYS know what or how).

posted May 04, 2016 12:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Okay, so I’ve rambled on and on about the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, their rulers, the Vertex Axis, and secondary houses, in interpersonal romantic attraction.

Recently I’ve been thinking about anther factor which might pull people together….

When a person influences our relationship houses, and Vertex Axis, along with sharing traditional physical attraction aspects with us, we are attracted to them as an individual.

But what if the composite of a particular relationship (rather then the individual themselves) impacted our chart in this way. Would that mean we’d fall in love with the dynamic we have with this person (how we work together with them, and the chemistry we have with them), rather then the individual themselves. Like when we’re around each other we’d get a certain feeling that would just be exciting to us because of how the relationship feels.

I’ve noticed that when the composites of a couple impact my Vertex Axis I find their ’story’ of how they came together and such very interesting. The Vertex Axis does describe the fateful events and turning points we have in life so this makes sense.

How about everybody else out there…

Do planets in your composite with a love interest aspect your 5th, 7th, and 8th house rulers?

Do planets in your composite fall into your 5th, 7th, and 8th houses?

Do planets in your composite aspect or fall into your secondary 7th house? (for example, if you have a Gemini Dsc the 3rd house is your secondary 7th house, and if you have a Taurus Dsc then the 2nd house is your secondary 7th house)

Do planets in your composite aspect your Venus or Mars, or make other ‘attraction aspects’ with your chart? A good examples are your Venus trine the composite Mars, your Sun conjunct composite Moon, and so on.

Do planets in your composite fall into the secondary houses of Venus for men, or Mars for women? A man with Venus in Scorpio would be extra attracted to his 8th house symbolism and women with planets there, a women with Mars in Gemini would be attracted to her 3rd house symbolism and men with planets there. If the composite were to put planets there instead there may be the feeling that the relationship allows the partner to act like an ideal mate?

Another thing to consider is if the composite has planets sitting on our important natal mid-points. Like Sun/Moon, or Venus/Mars mid-points. Or even 7th house/5th house ruler mid-points, and so on. Any mid-point that might be significant to liking/attraction with another.

Hopefully you all get the gist of what I’m asking about. How do you feel the composite you have with somebody attracts you to being with them, as opposed to just liking the style of the individual themselves?

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posted May 04, 2016 12:49 PM            

I'm referencing my partner's synastry with the composite first.

Perhaps most notably, or up there anyway, are the angle conjunctions: composite Ascendant/Descendant semi/sesquisquare his Sun/Moon midpoint. Composite Chiron is conjunct his Ascendant. Composite Juno is not far off either. Sun/Mercury at 6/9 Aqua are quite near his midheaven (which is either 11 or 13 Aqua). Composite Venus is 8 degrees Leo, near his IC. My MC/IC axis is the reverse of his at 13 degrees, so Venus is conjunct my MC, Sun/Merc conjunct my IC.

In his natal he has Mercury (chart ruler) at 7 Taurus and Mars (ruler of Sun and Moon sign) at 4 Taurus. Also his Vertex is between 4 and 7 Scorpio (there has recently been some concern that his birth time could be off by 10 minutes lol... a possibility for most of us I am realizing), and his Saturn is 2 degrees Scorpio.

So his major opposition (Mars/Saturn) squares our composite opposition. But interestingly his nodes are at 28 Gem/Sag. This means these draconic planets are square his natal ones and actually form conjunctions with our composite planets. I think this is an interesting element and would be interested in hearing more perspective on it. The Mercury-Mercury square is a result of our Mercurys being in opposition in synastry... a different kettle of fish immediately. Always interesting to me when we have like planets in opposition for this reason: both of our Mercurys are square composite Mercury. It is electric.

There is positivity to his synastry with our composite... his Jupiter is trine composite Venus which is nice in part because my Jupiter is conjunct his Venus. Jupiter is his descendant ruler so we like these ones.

Composite Juno is opposite his natal Jupiter. Composite Jupiter is opposite my natal Juno. We both have the natal Jupiter-Juno square and our Jupiters and Junos are (very) widely opposed in synastry. So there's the square in composite also and we end up with this cool kind of composite synastry double whammy.

Ok that was a ramble. I feel like posting charts, not to make our concerns central to this thread but as examples which I can refer to when thinking through our dynamic. It would be so much easier with the visuals...

Before i post that though I need to make lunch.. and one last thing:

Composite Saturn at 1 Sag opposes his natal Venus at 28 Taurus. He really likes taking his time developing meaningful connections (Venus, Mars, Mercury in Taurus), so this could be a positive thing. The relationship itself is Saturn to his Venus... slowing things down, inhibiting us some... but not really going anywhere/in it for the long haul, applying this steady pressure. Ours is a very opposition-driven relationship. I don't know how i feel about Saturn oppositions but he is familiar with the energy as he has Saturn opposite Mars natally... always tempering his urges..

posted May 04, 2016 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Yungang, sorry if I am intrusive or nosy, but how did you contact dawn if I may ask for your reading? Via her site? I am interested in a reading, if it could be possible, I didn't try it, though, lol
I am interested in readings from you guys, even with payment I mean, totally professionally, lol
I am not aware if that's a possibility in here, if it's permitted to exchange emails for this cause, I mean

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You can absolutely contact Dawn for a reading! She is friendly and awesome. Does them over the phone. It is pretty expensive for the synastry especially with draconic but worth it! I wouldn't be able to afford it again though haha... especially with the conversion rate to Canadian $$

LeeLoo has the Esotericorner and she is amazing... I would love to get a reading with her.. I can't speak much for others re professional in depth readings. I do have a website at intimatesky.net which I haven't been tending to because of having become discouraged but I am planning on introducing readings on a pay-what-you-can basis because I just like that model for many reasons.

posted May 04, 2016 01:53 PM            

just a relatively quick overview (hmm, I don´t really do quick, but I am sure I leave out some things )

"Do planets in your composite with a love interest aspect your 5th, 7th, and 8th house rulers?"

my 5th house ruler is Venus:

- no conjunctions, oppositions

- exact minor aspects (under 1 degree)
c-Mars quintile my Venus
c-Saturn sesisquare my Venus

my 7th house ruler is Mercury:
- c-Sun conjunct my Mercury

my 8th house ruler is Moon:
-no close conjunctions, oppositions, though
c-Saturn is widely opposite my Moon (just under 5 degrees)

- exact aspects
c-Mercury sextile my Moon
c-Chiron quintile my Moon
c-MC square my Moon
c-BML quintile my Moon 1°09

Saturn is my 8th house planet
-c-Venus opposes my Saturn exact
- c-Pluto squares my Saturn (1°45)
- c-MC trine my Saturn exact

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Moon is ruling HIS 5th house:

- c Sun conjunct his Moon

-c Chiron trine his Moon (1)
-c-Uranus semisquare his Moon (1)
-c-Pluto quintile his Moon (1)
-c-Juno biquintile his Moon exact

Mercury rules his 7th house
- c Jupiter opposes his Mercury
- c - BML conjuncts his Mercury

- c-Moon semisquares his Mercury
- c-Mars semisquare his Mercury
(effectively putting his Mercury on the midpoint of the Moon-Mars-square in composite)

Venus is the ruler of the intercepted part of the 7th house
- c-Moon conjuncts his Venus
- c-Mars squares his Venus
- c-ASC wiiide conjunct his Venus (539)

- c-Jupiter sesisquare his Venus exact
- c-Uranus quintile his Venus (1)

Saturn is on the cusp of his DESC
- c-Sun square his SAturn exact
- c-Moon trine his Saturn (3)
-c-Uranus semisquare his Saturn exact

Pluto rules his 8th house and is placed in his intercepted 7th house, so doubly important

- c-Mars conjunct his Pluto
- c-NN conjunct his Pluto exact
- c-Moon square his Pluto
-c-BML semisquare his Pluto exact

Uranus is his 8th house planet
- c-Juno opposes his Uranus
- c-Moon sextile his Uranus exact
- c-Saturn square his Uranus (1)
- c-Vertex square his Uranus (1)
- c-Ceres trine his Uranus exact

"Do planets in your composite fall into your 5th, 7th, and 8th houses?"

the 5th house Jupiter falls into my 7th house, conjunct SN exact and conjunct DESC with 3 degree-orb (our FMC DESC is there as well)

DESC falls into his 5th house, widely conjunct his Juno (3°37)

Mars-NN-Pluto fall into his 7th house, conjunct his 8th house ruler Pluto there

c-ruler Uranus falls at the end of his 7th house, 2 degrees before 8th house cusp,

MC falls into the 8th house 2 degrees after the 8th house cusp, and is conjunct his Valentine.

BML falls into his 8th house, but the Sag-part of it (and incidentally conjunct his 7th house ruler Mercury and my Mars-ASC)

Haven`t checked all the midpoints yet, but

c-Sun conjuncts his Sun/Moon-mp
c-Moon conjuncts my Sun/Moon-mp

This is bound to happen though with everytime we have a closish Sun-Moon-conjunction in synastry, since it is HIS Moon conjunct MY Sun, composite Sun falls onto his midpoint, and composite MOon on mine. That`s always the case with synastric conjunctions.

posted May 04, 2016 02:18 PM            

I tend to agree with Ceriwden in that if the composite does not touch in a significant way the natal chart, people may decide not to get in that train. I would add that transits may activate the need for a certain type of relationship.

where is the freedom? i believe that composites are sort of fixed within certain latitude. we may decide we dont like chocolate, then we go into another relationship, but we cannot make a chocolate cake a lemon cake. what we can make is how we personally decide to be impacted by the aspects that the composite makes on our chart (progressed, transit) and the progression of the composite to natal as well.

I dont know if I am aswering your question Lotis but to make it short. I do think that the energy of the relationship is felt at individual levels if the composite makes aspects to the natal of individuals. normally an individual play one planet of the composite and the other play depending on their own natal configurations. that dinaymic can change if a person start owning their own natal planet, but it may also mean the end of the need for that type of relationship.

posted May 04, 2016 03:26 PM            

Your mentioning of transits reminded me of something.

Well the composite Moon-Mars-square overlays his Venus-Pluto - square (c-Moon on Venus in his 11th, c-Mars on Pluto in his 7t, with Venus ruling 2nd and 7th, Pluto ruling 8th). So seems this is very much related to his 7th house along with the 2nd-8th house axis plus 11th house for him.

the other major square in the composite, Venus square Pluto activates my Saturn, or makes a T-square with it (c-Venus in my 2nd house opposite and c-Pluto in my 10th house square my Saturn in 8th house, which rules the 2nd house) - so for me there seems to be the 2nd-8th activation most prominent.

The relationship dynamic and in particular the possible love or attraction scenatrio - Venus- challenges my poor delibilated retro Saturn in Cancer in 8th house, which is ALSO the handle of my bucket formation.

BTW there is another composite with another guy in which there is actually a Sun-Venus-conjunction exactly opposing my Saturn (and that same c-Sun-Venus with the other guy squares his Chiron and possibly Moon and trines his Mars, I am pretty sure I know how that played out.)

Anyway I actually think my Saturn NEEDS some breaking open, but with my ironlike defenses, you have to bring in really the big ones to do the job. A little bit would not motivate my Saturn to move or change or transform even a tiny little bit.

Being pushed again and again by Venus AND Pluto? Oh man, I might be able to play "dead (wo)man" to Venus, but Pluto knows all the games, can`t fool THAT guy. lol

Anyway I disgress, but I find it interesting that currently the transits DID call in the big guys.

Big guy nr uno: Mr Pluto conjunct our composite Venus and hence opposing my natal Saturn (and actually being conjunct my solar arc Mars, but oh well, no clue what or if that means something).

Big guy nr two: Mr Uranus opposing composite Mars and HIS natal Pluto, and obvously squaring composite Moon and applying to square his n Venus (though it will take some time until it perfects).

And to make things REALLY difficult and challenging, we have

Tr Saturn conjunct composite Mercury-Neptune-conjunction, which squares my n Juno and also squares his n BML

and Tr Mars apparently has made himeself a comfy (well matter of interpretation Iguess) home on composite BML and my natal Mars-ASC and his natal Mercury.

But really the Uranus and Pluto transit alone is well a little startling. lol

Oh I forgot Neptune.

Yeah let`s talk about Tr Neptune which is square the composite Jupiter, and at the same time conjuncts my natal Jupiter and his progressed Venus, while opposing his natal Mars-Jupiter-conjunction, and squaring his Mercury on my ASC-Neptune-NN.

posted May 04, 2016 09:53 PM            

Now, I do think that we can get caught up in what the charts portray, what life SHOULD be with the other, but I think that is a true test of being an astrologer and living life and life with a relationship. We are not always rational with love, nor do we want to be because love is an enigma to many.

It is a mystery to me, which is why I find all of this so fascinating and intriguing. 😊

posted May 05, 2016 04:26 AM            

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Originally posted by llewsacm:
Lets keep it simple...if someone draws certain energy from me, is it the relationship or them? Well, I wouldn't have the feeling if I did not have "them" right?

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Yes, completely right.
That`s why I think the composite-natal comparision is an important piece of the puzzle.

posted May 07, 2016 04:58 AM            

Some great comments by Ceri and Nordicsoul…

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
i would say for instance if there is not sexual attraction indicated in the synastry, i dont think it is going to be made because there is venus pluto in composite. however, venus pluto in composite in trine will almost 100% make the relationship sexual fi there is sexual atraction in the synastry and it will be fulfilling(if not other composite feature seclude it) however, you may have venus pluto in synastry but saturn-venus or saturn-mars and then sexual expression may be unsastisfying even when the sexual attraction is strong...

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I think aspects like composite Mars conjunct one partner’s natal Venus and such, work to put the partner in question in a certain ‘mood’ when the are with the other person. If this is not reciprocated one way or another (either in synastry, or the other partner’s synastry with the composite) it could lead to one-sided feelings. That being said, I don’t think such composite aspects can completely replace good old fashioned synastry aspects that produce attraction. Rather, I think attraction aspects with composite create a certain ambiance for the person experiencing them, putting them in a more amorous mood around the other person. But the other person might not be in that mood at all… If they only have Saturn opposite composite Mars they might actually get annoyed at the other person always flirting. They are in a serious mood.

I do very much agree that if aspects in the composite, or synastry with composite, is mirrored in natal synastry, then it very much enhances any attraction that might already by there.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What I mean is, I`ve noticed that sometimes we can be very attracted to another individual and really like them and their personality, but whenever we get close or are with them, it somehow doesn`t work. We like them, but we seem to not work as a pair.

I also noticed that sometimes we might share a lovely composite with someone, but we are simply not motivated to "go there", which usually coincides with there not being any relevant hooks into our natal chart. the composite being like a beautifully wrapped gift, but noone really wants to unwrap it.

So yes I DO think that the relationship dynamis can be a very impactful thing on us being attracted, feeling compatibile and maybe even just feeling motivated to BE with them in the first place (in what way ever).

And it can also be some sort of hook when we can`t really grasp what it is that makes us going back for more everytime, or that makes us feeling pulled in despite maybe the other person not being "our type" (at least not as much as we are aware of. of course there is something that resonates, but we do not ALWAYS know what or how).

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posted May 07, 2016 05:08 AM            

Thanks for your examples. The main types of responses I was trying to get was examples of how synastry with the composite may have affected each person in the relationship.

You have provided a few good examples here…

“The Mercury-Mercury square is a result of our Mercurys being in opposition in synastry... a different kettle of fish immediately. Always interesting to me when we have like planets in opposition for this reason: both of our Mercurys are square composite Mercury. It is electric.”

“There is positivity to his synastry with our composite... his Jupiter is trine composite Venus which is nice in part because my Jupiter is conjunct his Venus. Jupiter is his descendant ruler so we like these ones.”

“Composite Saturn at 1 Sag opposes his natal Venus at 28 Taurus. He really likes taking his time developing meaningful connections (Venus, Mars, Mercury in Taurus), so this could be a positive thing. The relationship itself is Saturn to his Venus... slowing things down, inhibiting us some... but not really going anywhere/in it for the long haul, applying this steady pressure. Ours is a very opposition-driven relationship. I don't know how i feel about Saturn oppositions but he is familiar with the energy as he has Saturn opposite Mars natally... always tempering his urges..”

“Meanwhile his own Saturn is conjunct the South Node of the composite chart, his Mars exactly conjunct the North Node. It's one of several "mirrors" or double whammy type things between composite-synastry and our own synastry because my Saturn is conjunct his South Node.”

“With composite Mars on his Sun it's apparently a very growth oriented relationship for him, according to Dawn Bodrogi. Possibly even too stimulating... but if he wants to grow he can choose this relationship to help him with that because it's applying a lot of force and drive to his natal chart. Also it's really causing him to come into his own Mars with the composite North Node so closely conjunct it.”

If anyone else would like to contribute, please state what synastry there is with the composite, and then tell us how you feel it works in the relationship. If the composite Jupiter is conjunct your natal 5th house ruler, please explain the how it’s functioning for you?

posted May 07, 2016 05:15 AM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:

Thanks so much for this analysis Lotis, it helped me understand more about the comparison of composites to natals!
Do you want us to post specifics from the comparison you suggested or just our thoughts about it?
I think I get what you mean and yes, this is accurate in some cases, in others it's like you fall in love with some characteristics of the person [b] and with the potential at the same time!

I am really interested in your theory about the Venus house for men, have you written about this somewhere so that I look for it? In my case, composite Sun, Venus, Mercury and Chiron fall in his 12th house and I was really worried about this when I first saw it, lol..I mean about the hidden aspect this overlay might suggest obviously But his Venus is in Pisces, so maybe this isn't so bad as it sounds after all?
I checked all of the points you suggested and kept notes, so if you are interested I can post them, o! [/B]

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Thanks mar1982delta,

If he has Venus in Pisces, yeah, he may very well appreciate a composite with a women filling up his natal 12th house. In way he is looking to go off into a dreamy cocoon with a women and this composite would allow for this.

posted May 07, 2016 05:33 AM            

yes I agree. strong aspects from the composite to only one chart are often one indicator (there are others of course) for onesided feelings or different emotional responses.

Personally I think (while our synastry is not "un-eventful" per se) that there are some interesting links from the composite to HIS natal chart in particular.

I am thinking in particular of:

- c-Sun falling on his Sun-Moon-MC (and Sun/Moon-mp of course) (9th and 10th house)

- c-Moon falling on his Venus (11th house)

- c-Mars and c-NN falling on his Pluto (7th house)-

- c-Jupiter opposing his Mercury (cusp 3)

- (c-Uranus opposing his Chiron at 3 degrees) (7th house conj cusp 8)

- c-Juno opposing his Uranus (2nd house)

- c-BML falling on his Mercury (8th house)

the c-Jupiter-natal Mercury link might actually be fun, but what I meant to talk about in particular was the overlay of his natal Venus-Pluto-square with the composite Moon-Mars(plus NN, Amor, Cupido, Camelot etc. stellium ).

So you could see it like he has a synastry aspect of Mars conjunct Pluto with the "idea of "US"), or whenever I am around, that Pluto is activated for him through a certain way we relate to each other (A Mars-kind-of was most probably, but Mars in Libra, all nicely civil right ).
It`s of course not JUST Pluto for him but Pluto-Venus (which he has in masses anyway, the square to Venus plus Pluto in 7th house plus the ruler of 8th house also being Pluto in 7th house square Venus).

It sometimes surprises me and baffles me how intense he seems to be around me. Not always, sometimes he manages to probably more hook onto the Jupiter-Mercury, but especially lately there`s this hard to grasp tension, just by the way he is looking at me (well staring at me would be the better term), more than once just staring at me in silence and possibly simply lost in his own thoughts but due to keeping his eyes on me at the same time, it sometimes makes me feel a tad nervous.

I guess that is the Venus-Pluto for him, but it probably is ONLY present WHEN I AM AROUND. I guess after I walked through the door (or a bit of aftermath) it`s POOF, gone.

(we do not have it in synastry, Venus-Pluto-that is, only in the composite and by the composite triggering his own natal Venus-Pluto. Interestingly MY Venus-Pluto is not really activated either by his chart or the composite).

I suspect though that this "silent observation" behaviour of his (which is actually pretty obvious, I mean not even I can NOT see it, and that means something, if I cannot deny it even to myself anymore. lol) might also have been rather prominent for the last occasions maybe because of the Transit Uranus being opposing our composite Mars and his Pluto and sqaring our composite Moon (for him it is always Pluto that gets hit first and then after a time Venus follows, for me it is the other way round; first Venus, then Pluto gets activated).

And I guess Tr Pluto conjunct composite Venus also contributes to the Venus-Pluto-thing.

Well our composite Pluto is opposing my Saturn which happens to be configured (square) his Mars/Uranus and Jupiter/Uranus-mp. Makes me think of a pressure cooker to be honest. Uranus always wants to erupt, my Saturn puts a damper on it, and of course he is having currently an evolving Tr Pluto = Mars/Uranus transit picture.

Anyway even more so than with synastry I think of the composite-natal overlay almost of it being like transits hitting us when the other person is around.

posted May 07, 2016 11:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Thanks mar1982delta,

If he has Venus in Pisces, yeah, he may very well appreciate a composite with a women filling up his natal 12th house. In way he is looking to go off into a dreamy cocoon with a women and this composite would allow for this.

Yeah, I've done a previous thread about the secondary houses of Venus and Mars in the natal chart. Here's the link... Masculine/Feminine Ideals…. Secondary and primary…more detail http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211116.html

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posted May 09, 2016 03:45 PM            

I wanted to get back with an example of comparing my natal and his natal to composite and also synastry.

This relationship did not take off, but it has continued somehow on and off. but some higlights comparing the three charts

something I also noticed are the transits in natal and a type of relationship theme activated. I am going through by transit and progression through strong chirotic experience. then this relationship has a strong chirotic theme. it is like my soul chose a chirotic relationship to work through during this time. this may not be the case in two years from now.

we have in sinastry saturn trine moon double and natally we have sextile. however the composite has saturn oppose moon conjunct chiron. this conjunction (in 11 house) conjunct his natal venus. this relationship at some point became too heavy for him. he was helping with so much because of circumstances I needed his support. from my side, I don't feel the burden. There is also the feeling he cannot get too much joy. once he told me he felt restless and anxious around me. there is nothing in the synastry explaining that, other than composite chiron-saturn on his venus. on the other hand, we talk a lot about his chidhood and ex partners painful experiences. he can open to me easily and reveal his wounds, but I have also hurt him badly and viceversa. We have a strong sense of sensitivity toward the other wounds, very strong. if he sees me crying he instinctively responds. In my case I feel his pains so deeply that sometimes I just want to see him happy even if that means letting him go with another person.

we dont have chiron in synastry, so it is the composite. but composite jupiter conjunct my moon. it is funny because i have been the one more in love, but for some strange reason, I always feel good about myself in this relationship. I don't feel tension or the anxiety he feel. that jupiter in my moon really impacts my emotions.

then we have strong sexual attraction in synastry and in composite we have sun-mars conjunct and venus trine pluto exact and moon in 5th apart from lust aspecting mars-sun double whammy and in composite. I have noticed this is the second time I had pluto trine venus in composite. in both cases sex has been very fullfilling at a deep level. as I said in a previus post, composite cannot make for attraction lacking in synastry, but it can spoil or facilitate the "happening" and the "circumstances" of "vesel" or "vehicle" in which the relationship develops.

I have had in the past venus pluto conjunct in synastry as well as mars-sun eros-psyche and many other attraction factors associated to 5,7 house and rulers and sun-venus in 5th in composite. of course that relationship was very intense sexually, but when I compare with the 2 venus-pluto trine in composite, Nah! it is better with that trine in composite. I mean in terms of the real act. one is the attraction other is what circumstances allow for the sex to be consummated and how...

I am thinking about saturn in composites. it may put barriers in a relationship. maybe both people love each other deeply, but maybe the barrier is the distance (one has to work away, or it is married and the country does not accept divorce, or the children burden makes lovemaking too cumbersome) there is nothing wrong with the sexual attraction in this couple, but circumstances does not help.

posted May 11, 2016 11:58 AM            

Well, I guess I considered the orbs too wide to notice it or something..

But this;

My natal Moon: 16'31 Scorp
Composite Uranus: 18'24 Scorp

His natal Uranus: 26'33 Sag
Composite Moon: 28'26 Sag

(^ both orbs 1'53!!)

We have in the 9th harmonic a DW Uranus/Moon Exact Conjunction. It should have something to do with that I think (dunno)

His natal IC = 25'44 Sag. So I guess it's great for him this DW thingie to the Compo as he's already familiar with Uranus on his IC (cancer/moon like) natally! How funny.. just now discover this all.

So yea, despite the orb issue I can say this must be one of our most striking things related to the Compo.

I broke up yesterday with him.. I was done, but when I woke up this morning I felt bad and that I couldn't miss him at all so .. half sleepwalking I stumbled to the Phone and called him "I'm afraid I can't!! - I'm so afraid I can't miss u! (repeating - couldn't say much else with this sleepy state of mind)"

"I don't wanna miss you either etc" (he replied)

So yea.. we both need a lot of space but to my taste it was a bit TOO much lately... I wanted to feel more closeness and was protesting against a lack of it so to say.
But for the rest we have much in common when it comes to rebelling against society ratrace/sickness and all that stuff.

[btw his Uranus/IC is square his Venus at 28'45 Pisces natally.. that might explain his mutable mind when it comes to putting me on a pedestal OR .. DONE with mir! but he's already becoming aware that (t)his openly shared wish to split up now and then + blustering against 'us/me' is speaking against himself, haha]

posted May 11, 2016 12:21 PM            

the positions are a novile (40 degrees) apart, that is why the 9th harmonic alignment exist.

posted May 11, 2016 12:41 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Wow I just discovered something because of this thread.

Well, I guess I considered the orbs too wide to notice it or something..

But this;

My natal Moon: 16'31 Scorp
Composite Uranus: 18'24 Scorp

His natal Uranus: 26'33 Sag
Composite Moon: 28'26 Sag

(^ both orbs 1'53!!)

We have in the 9th harmonic a DW Uranus/Moon Exact Conjunction. It should have something to do with that I think (dunno)

His natal IC = 25'44 Sag. So I guess it's great for him this DW thingie to the Compo as he's already familiar with Uranus on his IC (cancer/moon like) natally! How funny.. just now discover this all.

So yea, despite the orb issue I can say this must be one of our most striking things related to the Compo.

I broke up yesterday with him.. I was done, but when I woke up this morning I felt bad and that I couldn't miss him at all so .. half sleepwalking I stumbled to the Phone and called him "I'm afraid I can't!! - I'm so afraid I can't miss u! (repeating - couldn't say much else with this sleepy state of mind)"

"I don't wanna miss you either etc" (he replied)

So yea.. we both need a lot of space but to my taste it was a bit TOO much lately... I wanted to feel more closeness and was protesting against a lack of it so to say.
But for the rest we have much in common when it comes to rebelling against society ratrace/sickness and all that stuff.

[btw his Uranus/IC is square his Venus at 28'45 Pisces natally.. that might explain his mutable mind when it comes to putting me on a pedestal OR .. DONE with mir! but he's already becoming aware that (t)his openly shared wish to split up now and then + blustering against 'us/me' is speaking against himself, haha]

WT.. just now also see that this other Moon/Uranus compo/syna connection at 17-18 Scorp is Square MY natal Mars at 19,5 Aqua. Wow.. might explain some balance here. Cause there IS. I mean: otherwise I would have left him long ago. And ofc. I'm talking from only my perspective here.

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posted May 11, 2016 01:46 PM            

It's indeed sort of confirming that his NATAL Uranus (conj compo Moon) and my NATAL Moon (conj compo Uranus) are the 'culprits' here.

And so after all.. there's way more interaction between those 2 natal aspects as once considered, which also explains why I can handle it (well, sort of haha, I'm fighting back, well yea.. that's exactly what I said to him "I wouldn't stand another day with you otherwise" - meant: without taking 'my revenge'):

- My natal Mars/Moon square.
- His natal Venus/Uranus square.

(^ having the Compo-Syna Moon/Uranus DW in mind)

The restlessness (now and then) ... I wonder if I can live without it in a relationship.

Ceri yea lol.. he calls me drama-queen.

He has an exact trine between Moon/Uranus natally.
I have an exact novile (40 deg) between Moon/Uranus natally.

(^ yea that's both from the novile serie idd)