posted May 07, 2016 03:00 PM            

Female's chart on the bottom - birth time known and accurate.

They were "interested" in each other as teenagers, but nothing happened, and both moved away and moved on. Recently "met" online again after more than 20+ years, and the female is really feeling the chemistry. The male initially seemed *very interested* in corresponding but has recently "cooled" / backed off (at least that is the female's feeling / perception).

posted May 07, 2016 04:23 PM            

my take is that , if he has backed off,it is because he is really falling in love and isn't sure of her intensity or maybe is a little "afraid" to feel so strongly. I don't think it is over at all.

the composite has the vertex at 22 psices, square to lust at 19 Gemini and square to venus at 18sag.

I can't make out the exact degree but the south node seems to have been on the vertex in late feb to april. this shows a unreal renewal of feelings , this intensity is why he has backed off as the can't quite deal with it or is not sure it is reciprocal .the node square lust and venus will occurs somewhere around late may thru june. so I think these sexual/emotional feeling will be hard to contain. if she wants this to turn into something , then I suggest she tell him exactly how intensity she feels about him and see what happens.

looking at his chart he may have just has a breakup with a very "special/soulmate" relationship at the end of last year and so is hesitant to try again for the time being.

vertex aspects are a bit tricky because sometimes the vertex energy is difficult to integrate into the overall chart dynamics, or the vertex aspects seem to stand apart from the rest of the chart

posted May 07, 2016 10:03 PM            

I don't see that much really compelling in the composite itself; I notice the Chiron Juno opposition though and Juno conjunct Uranus which can be very enticing, that Chiron-Juno-Uranus combo.

posted May 08, 2016 05:05 PM            

Todd, as grotto points out, the male's birth time is unknown and hence I doubt the "Vertex" is accurate or even if the house placements should be considered.

Furthermore, when I ran the charts with "Nemesis", it appears that his Nemesis is exactly conjunct her Ascendant, which I have read is a sign that he will be her Nemesis.

He has never been married - is there anything to suggest that he could be gay from this chart ?

Yungang, these two also have (her) Mars conjunct (his) Moon and (his) Mars conjunct (her) Venus, which is very telling. However, that conjunction of his Moon and Dejanira in his natal chart concerns me quite a bit, as I read that this is a sign of someone who has been sexually abused in childhood or with BPD / split personality.

posted May 09, 2016 04:05 PM            

The reason the man's birth time is unknown is because he refuses to divulge it, not because of any indifference on the part of the woman to obtain it -- she has asked him for his time of birth multiple times.

posted May 09, 2016 10:43 PM            

It's actually her Jupiter on his late Capricorn Sun / early Aquarius Mercury. His Moon is at 15 degrees Taurus and her Mars is at 7 degrees Taurus. Her Venus is tightly conjunct her Uranus (both 19 degrees Libra) which are conjunct his Mars at 22 degrees Libra.

What is your advise ? Should the woman still leave him alone ? Why is she so obsessed with him ?

posted May 10, 2016 02:54 PM            

I do not know what she should do

At all.

Maybe somebody else wants to weigh in..

posted May 10, 2016 03:02 PM            

Does she want a fling? Does she want to have sex with him? Does she want a committed relationship?

Frankly, it doesn't look like she's going to get it here. Midpoints or no (and I am beginning to consider them all but crucial), we can tell a lot from a synastry biwheel... and his Saturn-Chiron isn't stimulated, like, at all.

This explains his distance. Even if on some level he is interested, he doesn't feel in the least COMPELLED to relate. He doesn't have enough karma, enough of a sense that he NEEDS to do this thing. That's what Saturn does, in many mysterious ways, in ways that are sometimes too deep to detect; it makes us feel responsible for the other person. He does not feel responsible for her. He is unlikely to ever feel like he NEEDS her, like this relationship is important for his security or for his sense of responsibility in the world, and so he isn't likely to put a lot of work into it.

If she wants to keep pursuing him even though he is showing distinct disinterest, that is up to her. I think it is somewhat obvious that when anyone needs to "pursue" anyone, the relationship is already on the rocks--and it hasn't begun.. Then again.. sometimes things take time... sometimes there are things we can't see from the charts, astrological things I mean which aren't obvious at first glance, so again I wouldn't write it off.

posted May 10, 2016 03:11 PM            

She has this Moon-Juno in Sagittarius square Sun-Mercury in Virgo so there's part of her that really wants to be practical and do everything right, and there's this other part which is kind of devil-may-care, and this creates this kind of situation for her, where she isn't able to appraise her realistic needs in terms of sexuality and stuff, because of the Moon-Juno quincunx Mars.

She has a challenge in this life to really get a handle somehow on what she wants, what she needs, what insires her, and feels comfortable, and also what is actually within the realm of realistic possibility. Maybe she really likes pursuing unavailable people... or she thinks she does. But the truth is that she actually has a very slow steady desire nature which needs a lot of steadiness, and a Saturn in Cancer which just begs for nurturing. Very much at odds with her Sag Moon. That is a hard script to play out.... I feel for her.

She needs to be aware of these disparate needs within her. She also needs to remain aware of the way that she is affecting people around her, and try to be sensitive to others. That's the Saturn challenge here; to nurture other people somehow... to have real empathy for others, right? Saturn is in its detriment and is I think a kind of key in this chart and also a key to the reason this synastry is so compelling for her.. her Saturn makes that quincunx to his Venus. It's a hint for her, it's a clue. She understands, in this relationship, that she doesn't understand. And that understanding may help her on the path to.. understanding

posted May 10, 2016 03:24 PM            

"Emotions too crystallized. May come, not from innate selfishness, but from a hurt to the feelings early in life or by a parent. The result would be that he would build up a self-protective coating where emotions are concerned. Can be kind but finds it hard to put himself in the other fellow's shoes. An ambitious and shrewd person to whom material things are very important. At to withdraw from too close emotional involvements. Lack of relationships can lead to aloneness in old age. Psychic tendencies strong. Test of Saturn in this sign is the need to learn the value of responsibility and empathy."

Now I wouldn't condemn anyone to aloneness in old age and maybe don't read all of that to her-- then again you could do so. Because an awareness that you are actually pushing people away in an effort at self protection or because you think you want independence and autonomy, or pursuing unavailable people, are patterns one should become very acutely aware of in order to address them. You need to be developing this empathy regardless (she needs to that is). She needs to be developing this ability to put herself in others' shoes and love them as much for their sake as for her own. She needs a better synastry than this for that to happen though, in my opinion...