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GrlyGirl200
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posted May 11, 2016 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in the middle of a cold war with a Mars in Scorpio man. I have asked for him to forgive me, explained my point and why I'm sorry for some of my actions, and still things are bad. I liked him and told him so, he never confirmed or denied my interest, but there was an intense amount of eye contact and us exchanging phone numbers. Fast forward to recent few weeks, (we work together) when I was with my mother. She asked him a question, and he was quite standoffish and (I felt) disrespectful to her. My mother is actually sick (brain tumor), and I don't like ANYONE disrespecting her, so I told a manager that he needed to apologize to her. He did, but in the process he has since proceeded to ignore me (as in can't even be in the same room as I without walking out...proceeds to talk to everyone in the room but me). I told him my position (and that I was sorry for how I handled things) and that I do hope we can put it behind us, and he said that things wouldn't be the same.

This was about a month ago. He knows how I feel about him. A few days ago I actually just bit the bullet and literally told him everything and was for the first time "real." That I was sorry for what happened, that I handled it wrong, that I cared for him and wanted to try to fix things. That I was making a fool out of myself, but that I thought he was worth the effort for me to show and try to do what I needed to do to fix things. I also asked him to think about forgiving me, and having this cold war of sort end because at the end of the day his eye contact makes me melt (I know but hey I put it all out there lol). I also added that I'm dressing up for him, and that I'm getting male attention (and hit on) but I only want him and his attention. I didn't expect a response (I said I wanted his attention...so logically to me a response even negative would warrant attention), and he replied,"please stop contacting him." I replied that I was sorry and would respect his wishes.

I would take the fact that he is done at face value, but there have been things that made me wonder if he is punishing me knowing I want his attention (asking me to stop contacting him when he knows I only want his attention sounds pretty much like punishment). For instance a few days ago I dressed up to work (more than usual), the next day we worked together (two days later) he dressed up more nicely than usual (which I've never seen him do...others also pointed out the change...his excuse was that he had no clean clothing), or eye contact when I pass by (or no eye contact when I said that his ignoring me was driving me crazy and making me want him more, or when I mentioned that I want what I can't have). For some reason my intuition is telling me he is actually punishing me for hurting him/getting him in trouble (he knows he has power over how I feel). Another reason I think he is cold towards me is I hurt him.

Right after the confrontation with my mom happened I messaged him telling him that his actions showed me he didn't care and that I was working on getting over my crush. Days later I was in the break room talking with a coworker about our respective romantic lives and he was in there (I thought reading), and when I talked about how I don't change my mind once I decide I'm done, he all of a sudden left the room and proceeded to sit outside the break room. I followed him to try to see if we could still be friends, and that I hoped things would be better because I was getting over my crush (my impression was that he didn't feel anything because he was disrespectful to my mom and in turn me) he again walked away from me. All the while he refused to give me eye contact and fiddled with his phone. Later that night he had to get keys from me and wouldn't look at me directly but did look out of the corner of his eyes to see if I was looking.

He has a Scorpio Mars (and other Pluto placements...Sun Square Pluto, Moon Opp Pluto, Venus Sex Pluto), so I also wonder if anything he has ever said could be taken at face value. I myself have Moon and Mercury Square Pluto, Pluto in the 5th, and Sun/Asc/Mars Trine Pluto and I want someone to try (even if I do say leave me alone) hard when they have upset me. If they give up that signals to me that they didn't really care. So I'm wondering if he thinks the same way. In fact my Uranus aspects (which he has tons of...Uranus in 1st and Square his Mars) tend to have be completely normal when I'm not in the middle of some sort of emotional issue.

He once told me a story about a girl he liked that he asked out, she said yes but her father couldn't stand him and wouldn't allow her to go out with him. He responded by ignoring her for a year. So yeah, he can be extreme. Am I reading too much into things. There is a weird energy around us that others have pointed out. I care for him and do think he is sweet, but at this point I'm sorta over it, I just don't want work to continue to be weird. Thanks.

His Placements:

Ascendant: Cap
Sun: Virgo
Moon: Tau
Mercury: Virgo
Venus: Libra
Mars: Scorpio

My Placements:

Ascendant: Cancer
Sun: Cancer
Moon: Cap
Mercury: Leo
Venus: Tau
Mars: Cancer

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yungang_grotto
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posted May 11, 2016 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Going out on a limb and guessing but it sounds like he maybe has deep karmic issues with parental authority. He was burned when that girl's father forbade her going out with him. He was standoffish with your mother. He probably has a very fraught relationship with his parents and a deep complex about their authority over romantic relationships.

Just knowing sign placements isn't enough to confirm this however... would need to see the charts...

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GrlyGirl200
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posted May 11, 2016 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am guessing you are right. He has worked at our job for about a year and a half, and is just literally NOW talking to people and letting them in somewhat. Before that he would just sort of mumble to people and that would be it.

I do know that there is something up with him, this was all but confirmed by a coworker that deals with him. She had flat out said that the issue isn't me, it's him, and that she is 100% convinced that there is other stuff going on. I'm not exactly sure what it means...but taking his extreme reaction to both people myself and this other girl (who he is still not talking to years later...minus a happy birthday). He kinda freaks me out, not only does he look significantly older than what he is (I honestly thought he was like 25), but he carries himself like someone so much older.

I just don't want it to be my Mercury Square Pluto that is looking for hidden meaning. I did reveal in my message a great deal of depth that he doesn't normally see (Leo Mercury is outgoing and seems so shallow), so I wasn't sure if that was his unkind way of blowing me off. In my experience when a man receives anything that reeks of intense emotion that they don't have...they promptly ignore it (they def don't acknowledge it for better or worse). This includes Scorpio influenced guys (doubly so for Libra men...he has his Venus in Libra). I also take into consideration that his Virgo Mercury might just view it as being matter of fact, especially because he has never actually said anything like this before. I've also never revealed myself emotionally like this before either. So really I'm just torturing myself with this lol.

I can't post charts but here is his birthday.

His birthday: Aug 24th 1997 Charlotte, NC at 4:42pm

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