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Enneline
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posted May 12, 2016 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
we get along very well so far

Maybe it's too soon to make any predictions since it's a month only since we started seeing each other (met 2 months ago)

Also, his time of birth is not 100% accurate. He might be either a cancer asc (which i suspect given his looks) or a leo asc. But we can be sure of the following aspects:

- his venus conjunct my juno
- his venus and my mars in the same sign (orb too wide to count, 9 deg)
- his venus is semi-squared by both my mc and asc
- his mars is sextile my sun/asc
- his moon is sextile my moon
- his uranus is trine my venus
- his pluto square my venus
- his sun/moon mdp is squared resp opposite by both my moon and sun
- his moon is inconjunct my sun
- his moon is sesquisquare my venus
- his mercury is conjunct my venus
- his sun is parallel my venus & mars
- his sun makes a wide sextile to my moon
- etc. etc. etc.

That is not too much
Whatever, what do you guys think?

I am posting 2 synastries- one with him being a cancer asc and one with him being a leo asc (I am the one outside)


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LaceyLeigh
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posted May 12, 2016 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How wide is the sextile to your moon? I'm not too fond of the wheel because they don't show all of the aspects, just the closest ones. Which are nice to look at, first, but they aren't the end all be all of synastry.

I've heard of some people using 10 degrees orbs when speaking on conjunctions. Especially with luminaries & personal planets.

Just based on the wheel, I see that his sun and Venus are unaspected. This isn't necessarily a bad thing for him, but you might feel like his natural way of loving you doesn't reach you on a personal level. You might not understand his individuality right away, either.

Moon sextile moon is nice, air and fire seem to have a lot of fun together.

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posted May 13, 2016 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Conjunct angles with the Sun on the ascendant, Pluto on the IC, Nodes and Saturns conjunct,, Vertex and Pluto aspects,...The first one looks better I think

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posted May 13, 2016 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not good at looking at synastry wheels so I am just going by what you list:

yes to the moon sextile moon.

no to the pluto square venus.

not too fond of the venus trine uranus, it adds excitement but it does not bind.

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posted May 13, 2016 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Belage:
yes to the moon sextile moon.

no to the pluto square venus.

not too fond of the venus trine uranus, it adds excitement but it does not bind.


They have Saturn sextile Venus, as well. That can be a bit binding. She does have these aspects natally, so I'm not too sure if they would prominently play out in synastry.

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posted May 27, 2016 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
How wide is the sextile to your moon? .

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Just based on the wheel, I see that his sun and Venus are unaspected. This isn't necessarily a bad thing for him, but you might feel like his natural way of loving you doesn't reach you on a personal level. You might not understand his individuality right away, either.

Moon sextile moon is nice, air and fire seem to have a lot of fun together.


his sun is sextile my moon by 5 or 6 degrees.
Yes, his sun receives no major aspect but t my sun is semi-sextile his sun exactly + my venus is parallel his sun.
Also, my sun & moon make hard aspects to his sun/moon midpoint

his venus receives a very close conjunction by my juno and semi-squares by both my asc & mc and also there are some parallels

Yes, we have fun together (moon sextile moon)

BUT you are right: i feel unloved by him- his affections don't reach me (if there is any affection) so this probably won't work out

Also, we have his moon inconjunct my sun. I once heard that moon inconcjunct sun could mean cultural differences. He comes from a "cold" culture where men don't do much of the work in developing relationships, but women do it. Since i am not a woman who conquers men, that increases our chances of dating that doesn't work out

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posted May 28, 2016 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump

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Ceridwen
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posted May 28, 2016 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enneline,

I am lazy today. Can you post the composite?

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Enneline
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posted May 28, 2016 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah, ceri.

Here is the composite:

it is striking that the composite venus is conjunct his natal sun and the composite mars is conjunct his natal venus -> any thoughts?

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posted May 28, 2016 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is the combin

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posted May 28, 2016 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Enneline:
[B]ah, ceri.

Here is the composite:

it is striking that the composite venus is conjunct his natal sun and the composite mars is conjunct his natal venus -> any thoughts?


That is EXACTLY what I wanted to hear and check. So thanks for doing the work for me.

I was surprised to find his natal Venus unaspected, does not make sense to me, but that composite Mars on his natal Venus. Wow, that is HOT.
In the sense that the energy generated by the two of you together, makes him completely weak in the knees.
Maybe to be activated it needs you to be in each other`s physical proximity though. But when you are, attraction for him must be off the charts!

And c-Venus on his natal Sun, that is so lovely, too. Strenghtens his feeling of identity and also to be the man in your relationship.


just a few superficial thoughts here.

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posted May 28, 2016 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why doesn't his venus unascpected doesn't make sense? You don't know how unaffectionate he behaves just kidding

thanks a lot anyway

Can you see my feeling unloved theme in the comp?

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posted May 28, 2016 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
[B]why doesn't his venus unascpected doesn't make sense? You don't know how unaffectionate he behaves just kidding

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Yeah well maybe cause I think if he really were that unaffectionate through and through, he already would be history!
I just don`t think you are a person who would put up with that outrageous behaviour for long. So something must keep you eing pulled back there.
Maybe he does not give you the kind of affection you expect, but there is some different showing appreciation for you?


If I am wrong though, yes then his unaspected Venus probably makes sense.

I cannot see it entirely from the composite though. Well the widish opposition of Venus and Neptune definitely can point to some issues revolving around clarity (or rather the lack of) in terms of affections being shared, if that Venus is in 12th house this miht be even more intense. There is something rather hidden about the love. Well not for the outer world, but for the people in the relationship very often.


What happened when the transiting Nodes were at 23 Virgo? Was that when you met?

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posted May 28, 2016 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yeah well maybe cause I think if he really were that unaffectionate through and through, he already would be history!
I just don`t think you are a person who would put up with that outrageous behaviour for long. So something must keep you eing pulled back there.
Maybe he does not give you the kind of affection you expect, but there is some different showing appreciation for you?


If I am wrong though, yes then his unaspected Venus probably makes sense.

I cannot see it entirely from the composite though. Well the widish opposition of Venus and Neptune definitely can point to some issues revolving around clarity (or rather the lack of) in terms of affections being shared, if that Venus is in 12th house this miht be even more intense. There is something rather hidden about the love. Well not for the outer world, but for the people in the relationship very often.


What happened when the transiting Nodes were at 23 Virgo? Was that when you met?



i think you are right, Ceri he is not unaffectionate to me- not at all but somehow it's not sufficient for me. Due to his unaspected venus (hey, my juno doesn't count?!) or to unresolved emotional issues from my side

thanks for the composite-interpretation, didn't think of that. Thanks a lot!

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posted May 28, 2016 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What happened when the transiting Nodes were at 23 Virgo? Was that when you met?

-> when was that? We first met in March, had our first date 30 April

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posted May 28, 2016 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
haha you had your first date on the day of my lunar Return.


The lunar nodes were at 20 Virgo then, so the square to your c-Venus would have been a few months prior (december I guess) but you did not know each other then.

interesting the tr nodal axis was exact conjunct your c-Valentine. Wow that looks nice actually. Sweet even.

Tr Chiron square your c-Venus (still is), maybe that is part of the process. Well Chiron of course can heal and aims at transforming an energy (in this instance the expression of love), but before he can do so, he has to acknowledge there is a feeling of not being enough, a certain lack or a wound even, a sore spot.


And well it could be that the guy simply does not have to offer the right affections for you.


Your Venus is in Cancer, his is in Gemini, while his Mercury conjunct your Venus is very nice, you probably can at least talk and communicate about this or other things, but for a Cancer-Venus words might simply not be enough, and if he is busy (Geminis often are), you might feel like he rejects you or does not value you the way you need to feel loved.
But his Gemini-Venus might not know any other way to show his appreciation or affections, but through a more cerebral way. Just talking about signplacements here, not taking any kind of aspects into consideration.

Well it looks like your Cancer Venus is square Pluto natally, that is ultra intense. All or nothing. All in or all out. no lukewarm feelings.


Not sure what aspects his Venus makes natally, but it does not seem like he has something similiarly intense going on as your Venus does?

It does not mean he does not appreciate you, it might simply mean that if he shows you his appreciation he does it in ways that you either can`t really understand or perceive as validation or that are simply not enough to feed your Venus-needs.


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posted May 28, 2016 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW Venus-Juno is potentially a strongly attracting aspect, though the attraction in a romantic sense is more on the Venus-side, the Juno is more about either relationship or even more about a balance of power, equality and the likes.

oh and according to the Magi astrology it is the "ultimate sexual linkage" or "orgasmic linkage" (well keep us posted )

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posted May 28, 2016 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An experiment:

What would you feel or what would your inner voice tell you, if I said to you:

"Forget about the guy and move on. This is never going to work out, and you will always feel unfulfilled"


Does it ring true for you?
Or is something inside you calling out: "How dare she? She has NO clue what we have!"


Or something in between?

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posted May 28, 2016 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
An experiment:

What would you feel or what would your inner voice tell you, if I said to you:

"Forget about the guy and move on. This is never going to work out, and you will always feel unfulfilled"


Does it ring true for you?
Or is something inside you calling out: "How dare she? She has NO clue what we have!"


Or something in between?


Wow, Ceridwen, you are a real friend, thanks soo much

Yes, you are right . He is very Level headed and I am the one who wants passion

Well, you got me if I ask myself those questions , I would just think "nonsense, let's see and wait"

I feel that that square t chiron plays a big role. I recently had to think about old wounds

Again, crazy how accurate astrology is

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posted May 28, 2016 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:

Well, you got me if I ask myself those questions , I would just think "nonsense, let's see and wait"



EXACTLY.


You need to let life do its thing.


No, there was no right answer to the question, but I think THIS perspective is a very healthy one, neither idolizing something nor dooming it, but giving it space to grow, and also having the courage to admit when it will not work. But as of now it is too soon.


Anyway I am glad what I wrote resonated.

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