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Topic: What are some lifetime/longterm mistress aspects in synastry?
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 717 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted June 22, 2016 11:01 AM
Meaning what aspects in synastry/composite show that two people could have a lifetime/longterm affair?IP: Logged |
thegrinning_cat Knowflake Posts: 259 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted June 23, 2016 04:28 AM
Katherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy had an affair for over 20 years. I checked and there is Neptune in Composite 7th House."While making Woman of the Year in September 1941, Tracy began what was to become a lifelong relationship with Katharine Hepburn. The actress became devoted to him, and their relationship lasted until his death 26 years later. Tracy never returned to live in the family home, although he visited regularly. The MGM moguls were careful to protect their contract big stars from controversy,[209] and Tracy wished to conceal his relationship with Hepburn from his wife,[210] so it was hidden from the public. The couple did not live together until the final years of Tracy's life,[211] when they shared a cottage on George Cukor's estate in Beverly Hills.[206] In Hollywood, however, the intimate nature of the Tracy-Hepburn partnership was an open secret.[212] Angela Lansbury, who worked with the pair on State of the Union, later said: "We all knew, but nobody ever said anything. In those days it wasn't discussed."[206][213] Tracy was not someone to express his emotions,[214] but friend Betsy Drake believed he "was utterly dependent upon Hepburn."[215] Tracy's infidelity apparently continued, however,[216] and Tracy is reported to have had an affair with Gene Tierney during the making of Plymouth Adventure in 1952.[217] Neither Tracy nor his wife ever pursued a divorce, despite their estrangement. He told Joan Fontaine, "I can get a divorce whenever I want to, but my wife and Kate like things just as they are."[218] Louise, meanwhile, reportedly commented: "I will be Mrs. Spencer Tracy until the day I die."[134] Hepburn did not interfere and never fought for marriage.[219]" IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2808 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 23, 2016 05:09 AM
I can totally see Neptune being a factor. It sounds likely to me that his Saturn was heavily involved somehow but it could have been strong/strange/powerful moon aspectsIP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 1562 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted June 23, 2016 10:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by thegrinning_cat: Neither Tracy nor his wife ever pursued a divorce, despite their estrangement. He told Joan Fontaine, "I can get a divorce whenever I want to, but my wife and Kate like things just as they are."[218] Louise, meanwhile, reportedly commented: "I will be Mrs. Spencer Tracy until the day I die."[134] Hepburn did not interfere and never fought for marriage.[219]"
I wonder what his synastry with his wife was like.. And the multi-composite of all three of them together. Also, the 'not desiring' anything more, content to simply love and give..that's more Neptune magic for sure. IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 1562 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted June 23, 2016 10:55 AM
Oh boy! Right after I posted that ^, I found this: IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 1562 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted June 23, 2016 11:14 AM
In their natals, all three have Neptune-Mars hard aspects. Spencer's is the tightest.He also has Juno square Venus. BML squares the nodes and Pluto as well. Katherine has BML trine Juno. Venus squaring Mars, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune (some rather widely, but it's a lot of inter-related aspects, so I'm counting these). For instance, her Jupiter-Neptune conjunction opposes her Mars, squares her Venus, semi-squares her Moon (maybe). Neptunian qualities take on grander proportions in such proximity to Jupiter, and they together make dynamic aspects to her personal planets of love & sexuality. Louise has Juno sextile Venus, square Saturn..and Neptune conjunct Venus. Maybe that made her more accepting/forgiving of the whole thing? IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 717 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted June 23, 2016 12:28 PM
I have Neptune in 7th house in composite with someone. I guess maybe this is why I feel like I could actually have a long term affair with him. quote: Originally posted by thegrinning_cat: Katherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy had an affair for over 20 years. I checked and there is Neptune in Composite 7th House."While making Woman of the Year in September 1941, Tracy began what was to become a lifelong relationship with Katharine Hepburn. The actress became devoted to him, and their relationship lasted until his death 26 years later. Tracy never returned to live in the family home, although he visited regularly. The MGM moguls were careful to protect their contract big stars from controversy,[209] and Tracy wished to conceal his relationship with Hepburn from his wife,[210] so it was hidden from the public. The couple did not live together until the final years of Tracy's life,[211] when they shared a cottage on George Cukor's estate in Beverly Hills.[206] In Hollywood, however, the intimate nature of the Tracy-Hepburn partnership was an open secret.[212] Angela Lansbury, who worked with the pair on State of the Union, later said: "We all knew, but nobody ever said anything. In those days it wasn't discussed."[206][213] Tracy was not someone to express his emotions,[214] but friend Betsy Drake believed he "was utterly dependent upon Hepburn."[215] Tracy's infidelity apparently continued, however,[216] and Tracy is reported to have had an affair with Gene Tierney during the making of Plymouth Adventure in 1952.[217] Neither Tracy nor his wife ever pursued a divorce, despite their estrangement. He told Joan Fontaine, "I can get a divorce whenever I want to, but my wife and Kate like things just as they are."[218] Louise, meanwhile, reportedly commented: "I will be Mrs. Spencer Tracy until the day I die."[134] Hepburn did not interfere and never fought for marriage.[219]"
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page one Knowflake Posts: 539 From: USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted June 23, 2016 01:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Elysia: In their natals, all three have Neptune-Mars hard aspects. Spencer's is the tightest.He also has Juno square Venus. BML squares the nodes and Pluto as well. Katherine has BML trine Juno. Venus squaring Mars, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune (some rather widely, but it's a lot of inter-related aspects, so I'm counting these). For instance, her Jupiter-Neptune conjunction opposes her Mars, squares her Venus, semi-squares her Moon (maybe). Neptunian qualities take on grander proportions in such proximity to Jupiter, and they together make dynamic aspects to her personal planets of love & sexuality. Louise has Juno sextile Venus, square Saturn..and Neptune conjunct Venus. Maybe that made her more accepting/forgiving of the whole thing?
Louise was also raising their retarded child pretty much single-handed, which is another way that strong Neptune was expressing itself, and probably why Tracy never pursued a divorce. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26551 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 23, 2016 02:00 PM
Their composite also hasVenus in Taurus in 5th house square BML in Leo in 8th house within one degree. - among other things of course.
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 717 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted June 24, 2016 01:53 PM
What does Venus sextile Lilith mean in synastry? quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Their composite also hasVenus in Taurus in 5th house square BML in Leo in 8th house within one degree. - among other things of course.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26551 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 24, 2016 02:29 PM
a smooth sexual attraction, but probably very subtle. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6476 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 25, 2016 04:02 AM
My boyfriend has an exact VENUS square NEPTUNE in his tropical. I don't have any idea if marriage could ever be in the cards for us, and neither of us are pushing for it. But being devoted to one another for the rest of our lives is a foregone conclusion.I wonder ... if that's my 12H VENUS resonating with that .... ? Some folks ask about LILITH and BML, too. I'm a BML-SUN, my LILITH is 0º opposite my CHIRON, and his LILITH is conjunct his MARS on my SUN/PLUTO/BML -- opposite his MOON. It could definitely be playing a role. IP: Logged | |