posted July 02, 2016 02:16 PM            

In tropical synastry:
My Venus is completely unaspected by his planets (squares his Pluto and Sun by 4 degrees, but I would't count it)
His Venus only makes conjunction to my SN, trine to my Neptune and opposite my Pluto (aspect with Pluto, again, by 4 deg)

Tropical composite:
Venus unaspected (only a sesqui-quadrate to Pluto)

Draco synastry:
My Venus unaspected by his planets
His Venus unaspected by my planets

Helio synastry:
Again, both our Venuses are unaspected !

Helio composite:
Well, at least something positive - Venus trine Earth-Moon ...

Are planets trying to tell me we are simply not meant to be together? (at least not romantically?)
Because according to all that stuff, not only we are NOT Twinflames... we are not even Soulmates! (yes, he has Venus on my SN,and we were going through incredible transits, when we've met for the first time but he simply CAN'T be my soulmate when my Sun, Venus - my 7th house ruler AND Mars - my 5th house ruler are basically unaspected in tropical synastry!)

Holy sh*t, how come I'm even attracted to him so much I can't stop thinking about him!? With such a weak-ass synastry...
Is it because of declinations? Midpoints? Because we have some powerful stuff activated that way. But I've always thought that declinations and midpoints are simply not enough on it's own...

I would like to know what is your experience, when it comes to weak Venus in synastry... were you head over heels with someone despite unaspected Venus?

posted July 02, 2016 07:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
^ That's so odd, Gabby.

Unaspected Venus is a complete deal-breaker for me, it just has this huuuuge "something is missing" feel to it... I really don't like it...

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On either side? Or just your Venus unaspected?

posted July 02, 2016 07:48 PM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
On either side? Or just your Venus unaspected?

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I mean it doesn't matter whose Venus is unaspected, it just feels empty...

Although oddly enough, I've known a few people whose Venus was unaspected by my stuff and who were into me (at least 3!)...

Perhaps it's that I didn't feel *their* Venusian energy... Since their Venus didn't touch any of my stuff, it's like all that Venus/love energy was in a vacuum.

But I really don't like seeing unaspected planets in synastry, especially Moon and Venus.

Note: my Venus conjuncts my DSC ruler. Perhaps it has more weight than for other people.

posted July 02, 2016 08:27 PM            

It is more important to have the whole synastry (tropical geocentric) than to go on a multi-chart fishing expedition focused on one factor and possibly miss a major aspect between your birth charts.

However, it is not necessary to have his planets/points in (major) aspect to your Venus for there to be relationship potential -- or even to explain attraction. Moon, Jupiter, Sun, Uranus can all play important parts in attraction, friendship, and love relationships as well.

posted July 02, 2016 08:38 PM            

Though in my synastries most of the time I need Venus to be activated. But then when I felt most attracted, I found the Venus-synastry (to my Venus) well a little lacking, as there was just a wide trine to his Mars-Jupiter-conjunction (4-5 degrees) and one to his Chiron (3 degrees). I`ve come to realized that might account for more than I thought though.

BUT it is also true that my Venus is parallel his Sun (and his parallel mine) and MC.

And I guess the Sun-Moon-conjunction is not too bad either. (his Moon - my Sun interestingly; well okay his Sun-Moon-MC to my Sun-Mercury ).

All in all I think it is always the whole chart-texture, and in some cases Venus might just not be that forefront.

I also noticed the weird thing that this synastry (and another one) has some major aspects in common with my parent`s synastry; I was musing about the reasons for this. But I experience my parent`s relationship as very positive, loving and vibrant, and maybe having grown up in this special kind of energy, I resonate with synastry that reflects at least parts of this.

posted July 03, 2016 03:39 AM            

His Venus ruled his 7th house also so it played a very important role.

We had a lot of other factors to consider, but like the above posters said, it always felt like something was missing on both parts. His unaspected Venus played out more within his group of friends. His Venus is in Sagittarius and ruled his 7th so he loves to socialize and meet new people. I was sort of his safety net when he wanted to escape the world, but when he was out in it, he neglected me and our relationship like crazy. He could never commit fully and you could tell I didn't fulfill him completely.

His Venus was unaspected BUT it overlayed my 7th house. All of our planets fell in one another's 7th and 8th houses on both sides so even though Venus was unaspected, that made up for it a bit.

We had more of a soul connection than a lovey dovey one I think Venus describes. In out synastry we had aspects like:

Moon sextile Moon
Moon-Pluto semi-sextile both ways 2 degrees max.
Moon-Karma conjunction exact.
Mars-mercury conjunction 1 degree.
Moon-mars square exact.
Moon-Saturn double whammy.
ASC-Moon square exact.

Our composite was much more intense with a Scorpio love stellium in the 7th conjunct Pluto, square Saturn, and sextile Neptune.

BUT even with all of this soul connection stuff, he still fell harder for a girl he has Venus conjunction Sun with at 2 degrees. Her Saturn and Jupiter also make nice close sextiles to his Venus also.

I still think we would be together if I didn't break it off a fee years ago but my Scorpio Venus would be very unhappy. He would've never committed regardless of how much he loved me. His Venus was unfulfilled. He doesn't have it all with his new girlfriend either though from what he has said (we still talk from time to time). From my guess, it's not as deep of a connection as we had although his social life has picked up dramatically since being with her. Venus seems so superficial even as a 7th house ruler unless other factors come into play or maybe it depends on the Venus sign. My ex has Venus in Sagittarius with Libra ruling his 7th house and Venus located in his 9th. I'm sure he's still flighty and social regardless but his venus being unaspected in our synastry probably just enhanced this need for him. Factor that, plus we were already so young so who knows.

I don't think Venus is the main factor, but if the person isn't mature enough to overlook superficial warm feelings of admiration for a real authentic love, it will be a problem. I think that was the case in my relationship.

posted July 03, 2016 10:56 AM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
On either side? Or just your Venus unaspected?

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posted July 03, 2016 11:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
^ That's so odd, Gabby.

Unaspected Venus is a complete deal-breaker for me, it just has this huuuuge "something is missing" feel to it... I really don't like it...

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My Venus is really taking a beating in my chart...when ppl touch it brings out a lot of insecurity. Plus they aspect my Chiron if they aspect my Venus, since they are opposed in my chart.

The 5th n 8th house were always very active, or their rulers were making major aspects and the composite the Venus was active also.
With one guy(2nd guy) in the composite we have a tight love stellium in scorpio sitting on the IC.
His Venus is the midpoint/semi sextile my Pluto/Neptune
My Pluto libra@11.05
His Venus scorp@12.02
My Neptune saggy@11.15
My Juno virgo@12

posted July 03, 2016 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
If the composite Venus is active with near to exact aspects, it means that there must be a mirroring of natal aspectual interrelationships. Or really angular distances, which does not always have to be a major aspect of course. But the composite reflects that interrelationship, that might not be so obvious in synastry.
Cochrane described that in an article or in his book, but I don`t remember clearly enough.

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posted July 03, 2016 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
All in all I think it is always the whole chart-texture, and in some cases Venus might just not be that forefront.

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Good phrase

posted July 03, 2016 12:22 PM            

What are those things your synastry with that man has common with synastry of your parents, Ceri?

Gabby: So Valentine actually works as love asteroid... I'm still tiny little bit skeptical about it. Because from what I know, it's named after member of Rotschild family, not after Saint Valentine...

Doux Reve: I guess that after some time, you didn't feel appreciated enough by these people?

posted July 03, 2016 12:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Good phrase

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posted July 03, 2016 12:47 PM            

I am very doubtful about that twinflame-definition to be honest. AT least I would like to refrain from it.

Parallels to Venus and Mercury are MAJOR aspects, I think.

As for the similiar aspects (not always the same):

Sun square Sun - Sun conjunct Sun
Sun trine Saturn -Saturn square Sun
Moon opposite Sun - Moon conjunct Sun
Mercury trine Mars - Mercury conjunct Mars
Mercury square Neptune - Mercury conjunct Neptune
Mars opposite Jupiter - Mars opposite Jupiter
Mars square ASC - Mars square ASC
Jupiter square Mercury - Mercury square Jupiter
Saturn semisquare Sun - Saturn square Sun
Chiron square Venus - Chiron trine Venus
Chiron sextile Neptune - Neptune trine Chiron
Chiron trine Pluto - Pluto opposite Chiron
Uranus square Moon - Moon sextile Uranus
Pluto square Mercury - Mercury sextile Pluto
ASC semisquare Sun - ASC square Sun
NN conjunct Jupiter - Jupiter square NN
NN opposite Saturn - NN semisquare Saturn
NN square Uranus - NN sextile Uranus

Well not all are the same aspect but connection same planets, and particularly the Sun to Sun-Moon dynamic aspects appears again as well as the Mars-Jupiter-oppositon, which I find interesting.