posted July 06, 2016 09:58 AM            

1. Chiron conjunct the North Node
The theme of this relationship WILL be pain. The degrees are very important, as they always are. In this case, if there was a 1-3 orb, I would expect a pain theme for the duration of the relationship

2. One’s Person’s Sun is Unaspected to the Chart of the Other

When this occurs, in any relationship, there will be an emptiness, in my opinion. Through no fault of either party, there is an essential disconnection which can never be remedied.

3. One Person’s Moon is Unaspected to the Chart of the Other

This scenario is very similar to the one above. However, it would be even harder. In the instance of the Sun, there would be an essential misunderstanding of the ego/identity/personality of the other. In the case of the Moon, it is the deepest, most interior core of the other. Hence, it is harder.

4. Moon square or oppose Saturn

This aspect is not a “kiss of death”. Saturn holds relationships together. Saturn tells us to eat our peas before we have our dessert. In the same way, Saturn tells us to stay with our beloved when a prettier model walks by. Hence, I do not mean to give Saturn a totally bad rap. However, with that being said, the Moon person may feel very criticized by the Saturn person. The Moon person may feel as if she cannot do anything right in the eyes of the Saturn person.

5. One person’s Chiron conjunct a Personal planet of the Other

A Personal Planet is Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, and Venus. In these case, the relationship will, usually, become very intense, very fast. However, a small slight will, usually, occur from which the relationship cannot survive and it seems to break apart, never to be reignited.

6. One Person’s Nessus conjunct the Personal Planets of the Other

Nessus is the asteroid of abuse. The Nessus person may feel a strong urge to abuse the Planet person. This is really not the fault of the Nessus person, per se. It is the energy of the charts.

7. One Person’s Eros Conjunct the Saturn of the Other

Saturn cools what it touches. Saturn is like an ice cube. One does not want an ice cube next to the asteroid of the Erotic. N’cest pas?

8. One Person’s Jupiter Conjunct the Nemesis of the Other

Jupiter enlarges what it touches, for better or worse. Hence, the asteroid of the enemy, Nemesis, would not want to be magnified in a relationship.

9 Mars square Mars

These natives may start out in a very passionate way but end up in the manner of “The War of the Roses”. Catch the flick if you have this aspect in synastry.

10. Moon square Moon

This aspect would be the kiss of death, for me. Some people argue that there are relationships with longevity in which this aspect exists. I don’t take personal accounts from third parties. If *I* see a pattern from doing many charts, I will count on that. People deceive themselves. Hence, the Astrologer needs to look to the chart and not personal testimonies, in such cases.

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posted July 06, 2016 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by CuriousV:
Thank you Ami Anne. Was a very informative post

Would you care to give your thoughts as to what you would consider the MOST binding/promising aspects for a long term or marriage type of a relationship?

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posted July 06, 2016 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Some people argue that there are relationships with longevity in which this aspect exists. I don’t take personal accounts from third parties. If *I* see a pattern from doing many charts, I will count on that. People deceive themselves. Hence, the Astrologer needs to look to the chart and not personal testimonies, in such cases.

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posted July 06, 2016 05:19 PM            

Is Mars opp. Mars felt as strongly? I know a couple together for a very long time and married for a few years now with this aspect (along with Mars opp. Mercury) and they are great together (they do have a lot of supportive aspects too though).

posted July 06, 2016 05:36 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
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Wouldn't some of these aspects be more easily tolerated depending on the condition of that planet in the natal chart?[/B]

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In fact the judgement of these aspects depends very strongly on the natal make up.

While the isolate aspect interpretations are to a big part accurate, no aspect operates in isolation in a natal chart.

Howeever getting a feel for the generic meaning of such an aspect is like learning the words in a language. Very necessary as first step. But this is what it is, a first step. And like in every language, it depends who the words (aspects) are composed together to arrive at an accurate interpretation.

For example:
Moon opposite Saturn can of course be stifling. However there are some people who prefer the security it brings to some kind of excitement and thrill.

My best friend for example loves Moon-Saturn, and even the harsh aspects (in fact her Saturn opposes her husband`s Moon). While even a sextile from Uranus makes her nervous and deeply unhappy.

The one thing I have found most often is compatible Moons, does not always have to be an aspect, but it seems that Moons usually are in compatible signs.

There is an exception I observed and that is if Moon is in an incompatible sign, there will be in synastry:

posted July 06, 2016 11:07 PM            

Bored out of your gourd? Get a good hard Uranus square or conjunction in the mix and feel yourself come alive.

I totally get looking at trends in synastry and composites. But it is personal and there's no magic answer. Otherwise, we wouldn't even be talking about this now would we?

I had a beautiful music rectangle in my composite chart with my ex husband. Asc/dsc axis swap, all these great aspects. I was bored out of my mind. It all comes down really to what YOU need, not what works for everyone else. Study your natal chart intensely and learn about yourself and then you can go from there. That's my advice for anyone who is looking at this list and then checking to see if they have any of these dreaded aspects. If you have one, think about what it means to you first. How you can grow and mature from it.

posted July 07, 2016 11:08 AM            

Then again, I can be stubborn as hell lol.

posted July 07, 2016 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Electro DGX,

Why is Saturn/Mars so bad?

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With hard aspects, the will of Mars and the actions Mars can take can be very irritating to Saturn and may bring out some of the Saturn's insecurities, so Saturn will try to hold down the Mars person and control them, ranging from simple criticism to psychological abuse, which can make Mars angry because their will is being questioned. Often lots of fighting is involved because the Marsian person feels that they are never good enough for the Saturn person and the Saturn person may feel that everything the Mars person does upsets them. This can result in fighting that never seems to end because no one is really happy with the other. That's my take on it, and honestly this aspect (hard) sucks lol.

posted July 07, 2016 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Lunar phases might give the answer on squared moons too. Linda & Paul have their Moons square but both are born under a waxing semi-square (same phase angle).
Another square-moon couple I know, have their Sun/Moon midpoints conjunct.
A 3rd square-moon couple have exact opposing lunar phases; waxing semi-sextile & waning quincunx.
I think they're happy or have been
There seems to be some striking alignment in lunar phase in these cases. Maybe there are more. And ofcourse, if this is the cause of their happiness then phases in general are a neglected biggie in astrology.

Any point is a place to start

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posted July 08, 2016 08:38 PM            

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Originally posted by CuriousV:
Thank you Ami Anne. Was a very informative post

Would you care to give your thoughts as to what you would consider the MOST binding/promising aspects for a long term or marriage type of a relationship?

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Thank you, CV

I think I have one on the best aspects, if not I will write one for you !

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posted July 08, 2016 08:39 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Yes, Ami Anne, please do the happy relationship aspects too!

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Thank you, CC!

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