posted July 11, 2016 06:03 PM            

But I figured I would post anyway and ask you kind folks to investigate these asteroids in the synastry and composite of long term/solid couples you have in your files. I have yet to find a single one without a significant and close aspect between either Odin or Wodan and Frigga/Freia and sometimes Vanadis.

I know it seems easy to hit this off but it is still worthwhile checking it out. I think this is a significant archetypal asteroid couple, signifying a relationship of considerable integrity and with some form of reputable social standing.

I've observed that Moon square Odin in the composite chart often indicates the woman will leave the man against his will... just one tidbit there... but obviously more research is needed.

In all, they are VERY significant relationship asteroids. I look forward to reading your research and responses, and to sharing my own article (it's on my other computer, but I'm at the library right now and couldn't wait to just start up the conversation).

I hope everybody is doing really well and having a lovely summer *(or winter if you're in the Southern hemisphere!)

posted July 11, 2016 06:30 PM            

I am checking my parents chart

Dad`s Wodan square Mom`s Frigga 2°24

Hmm I guess not too convincing though

Additionally

Mom`s Frigga trine Dad`s Venus-Jupiter (1)
Mom`s Freia opposite Dad`s Venus-Jupiter
Mom`s Freia trine Dad`s IC (2)
Mom`s Vanadis trine Dad`Sun (1)
Mom`s Vanadis conjunct Dad`s Mars-SN (3)
Mom`s Vanadis conjunct Dad`s Juno (2)

Dad`s Wodan loosely conjunct Mom`s DESC (3)
Dad`s Wodan trine Mom`s Venus-Mars (2)
Dad`s Wodan opposite MOm`s Lilith (2)
Dad`s Frigga oposite Mom`s Moon (1)
Dad`s Frigga square Mom`s Chiron exact
Dad`s Freia trine Mom`s Sun exact
Dad`s Freia conjunct Mom`s Ceres exact
Dad`s Vanadis conjunct Mom`s NN-MC exact
(VERY important degree, was highly activated during their marriage, in his solar arcs especially)

posted July 11, 2016 06:40 PM            

his Frigga sextile her Odin exact
his Vanadis on the antiscion of her Odin

additionally

his Odin conjunct her DESC exact
his Odin square her Venus-Mars-Pluto exact
(his Odin is conjunct his own ASC-Sun btw)

his Frigga conjunct her MC (3)
his Freia conjunct her Chiron (2)
his FReia oposite her Urnaus (1)
his Freia conjunct her SN exact
his Vanadis trine her Vanadis (2)

her Odin trine his ASC exact
her Wodan opposite his Moon (1)
her Wodan square his MC exact
her Freia oposite his Mercury exact
her Freia trine his Venus (2)
her Freia conjunct his Saturn (1), his chartruler

posted July 11, 2016 06:50 PM            

his Wodan conjunct my Freia 1°31 (on my family name in my chart)

his Wodan sextile my Frigga exact

additionally

his Odin conjunct my true Lilith exact
his Wodan square my Mars (2)
his Frigga conjunct my Pallas (1)
his Frigga trine my Pluto exact
his Freia opposite my Saturn (1)
his Freia sextile my Juno (1)
his Freia conjunct his name in my chart (2) lol
his Freia trine my name in my chart (1)
his Vaanadis conjunct my AVX (2)
his Vanadis on the antiscion of my ASC-DESC

my Odin-Uranus-Union conjunct his Union
(2)
my Odin sextile his NN exact
my Odin trine his IC (3)
my Wodan trine his Pluto exact
my Frigga trine his NN (1)
my Freia conjunct his SN exact (on his Wodan)
my Vanadis conjunct his Neptune-Cupido-DNA exact

and our composite has

Odin conjunct Sun (3)
Odin trine Chiron exact
Odin sextile Union exact

Frigga conjunct Moon (2)
Frigga square Nodes exact
Frigga trine Juno (2)
Frigga trine Alma exact

Freia opposite Karma exact

posted July 11, 2016 07:13 PM            

His Odin 4 Pisces
curiously falling onto my Freia and Mr Sag`s Wodan and also my Dad`s Freia

Anyway
his Odin on the antiscion of her Freia (1)
his Wodan sextle her Vanadis (2)
his Freia sextile her Wodan (2)

Interestingly he has a Wodan-Vanadis conjunct on 10-11 Sag, right on his Moon-Jupiter-Uranus stellium. lol

Additionally

his Odin conjunct her Venus (1) - close enough to Freia?
his Odin on the Antiscon of her ASC (1)
his Wodan conjunct her SN (2)
his Wodan conjunct her Uranus (2)
his Wodan square her Lilith exact
his Freia trine her Saturn (1)
his Vanadis conjunct her SN (1)
his Vanadis conjunct her Uranus (2)

her Odin conjunct his IC exact
her Odin trine his Mercury exact
her Odin opp. his Neptune exact
her Odin trine his Pluto (1)
her odin square his Vertex exact
her Odin trine his Juno (1)
her Frigga square his chiron 81)

posted July 11, 2016 10:01 PM            

3989, 2155, 76, 77, 240

posted July 11, 2016 10:17 PM            

4.08 Leo Frigga
7.06 Leo Vanadis
5.40 Libra Wodan
7.29 Sag Odin, on the MC as I type this
10.58 Scorpio Freia

Strangely overlapping my husband's chart alot.

quote:

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I have yet to find a single one without a significant and close aspect between either Odin or Wodan and Frigga/Freia and sometimes Vanadis.

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Composite:
We have the Frigga/Freia trine
Odin/Wodan trine, but 4° orb.
Frigga quincunx Wodan

Synastry:
His Odin trine my Freia, less than 2°.

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My brother and his wife, a happy long-lasting couple:

posted July 11, 2016 10:57 PM            

Very interested to find out your interpretation of the aspects bellow:

My Frigga 1'19 Capricorn opposite his Venus 1'05 Cancer

His Frigga 26'5 Pisces opposite my Venus 26'06 Virgo

And obviously in our composite

14 Aqua Frigga opposite 13 Venus Leo (Venus in the 7th house)

posted July 17, 2016 08:30 PM            

Significant Archetypal Couples: Norse Mythology

Odin and Freia, Wodan and Frigga... these are the names of the King and Queen of Norse mythology, complex and fierce archetypes of resplendent love, of radical surrender, of the power of divination, and together, of a sanctified divine union of powerful individuals.

Frigga/Freia, Goddess of Love and Sensual Enjoyment, is an incredible ally and a supportive boon for anybody who wishes to get in touch with their own sensuous, loving, amorous nature. She encourages lavish self love and deep inner healing of the somatic senses in regards to love and sensuality. She resonates strongly with the colours amber and red, and rides in a chariot pulled by cats (by some accounts, their names are Bjeguld and Trjeguld--bee gold and tree gold, amber and honey, which are both sacred to Freia).

Odin, or Wodan, is the creator of the Runes. He divined their meaning and shape when hanging upside down from a tree, and the Hanged One in the Major Arcana of the Tarot is a good one to meditate on when we are looking to get in touch with Odin. There is a significant element of transcendentalism in Wodan/Odin's energy, as his strength is matched only by his ability to completely surrender, and is in fact bolstered by it. You can see why Freia might have chosen him for a lover and life partner

So they both have fascinating mythological importance, very strong energy, their own unique contributions to our lived experience and archetypal reality... and they are also in a soul union, an eternal marriage, an intimate relationship of powerful individuals who are unquestionably united on a deep level. The energetic resonance of the asteroids which represent them is strong and healthy, and when we find them in positive aspect to one another in interchart comparisons we perceive the strength and health of the relationship between the people involved. They are one of the better or more healthy examples of the institution of relationship we have available to us through mythology and among the asteroid pairings. I believe we can expect to see this pairing being quite active in the chart comparisons of two people whose relationship develops into the kind of attunement to one another which is 'established' in the public eye or among friends and peers, a relationship which is also somehow beneficial on a large scale. Their attunement to one another is characteristic of a divine, royal couple such as Wodan and Frigga.

I've been observing these asteroids in the charts of couples I know and can safely theorize at this point that two people significant interchart aspects and composite/Davison placements of these asteroids (corresponding to each party's natal chart as well, ideally), will often achieve some kind of prominence in their community as a couple, and will in some way exemplify the qualities of Odin, Freia and Frigga mythologically as a couple. But essentially positive aspects seem to indicate a deep harmony based on strong inner conviction which has been reached through each individual's personal journey and is in keeping with their most cherished values. It helps that one of Freia's most cherished values is Love itself, and Odin has such strength and integrity, as well as the ability to see things from different angles, and to weave magic in the world. Odin's energy is one of spiritual reality, a harmonious Jupiter-esque figure who is also capable of the merging of Neptunian and Saturnian principles.

Depending on the synastric aspect patterns, signs, house placements, and aspects to these asteroids in the composite, we can glean a great deal of information about the couple's social standing as a unit, as well as the strength and integrity of their union as fully realized individuals.

A very strong presence of Odin/Wodan/Frigga/Freia in the composite seems to me almost to be expected in a long term significant relationship (from my limited database, anyway), much as we are often surprised to see the absence of Juno in a long term committed relationship. Of course, there are many exceptions, and you will find significant relationships which do not have an especially strong or apparent Juno thing (we could argue that through digging/significant midpoints we would find it anyway).

I have also been noticing that Freia and Frigga themselves, in synastry especially, are similar to Venus in their importance, their significance, and the likelihood of their significant presence in such a relationship. They are both, after all, quite large asteroids (76 and 77, putting them among the 100 first Goddess asteroids discovered and named. Frigga has her own glyph as well, a quite beautiful one, too. Frigga herself seems to be more "wifely" energy, and Freia seems to be more romantic and maiden-like in her expression, but there are exceptions. I've also noticed that Odin differs somewhat from Wodan in its intensity; Wodan is more the spiritualized element of this archetype, and Odin, the king we meet in the physical world... again, this can change and shift and these are simply preliminary personal observations/inferences/guesses.

In a stressful aspect, these asteroids might show a desire or striving for this kind of wholesome and publicly recognized union of complete people, which is frustrated by the factors represented by sign and house placement, or in keeping with the aspect which is formed.

Of course, if these asteroids are not prominent or significant in the natal charts of either individual, they will be less important in the chart comparison. But if you have a strong Norse signature in your chart, involving any (or all!) of these four asteroids with the luminaries, angles, or nodes especially, then we can expect that they will be important thematically in significant and satisfying romantic and life-long relationships. They likely work whether or not they are especially significant in the natal, but if they are front and centre in the natal expect to find them in the chart comparisons.

It is worth looking into other Norse asteroids for context, especially Vanadis, who is another Norse goddess of Love, and has similar connotations to Freia/Frigga. In some cases she will be conjunct Odin/Wodan in a composite chart of a socially significant couple whose love becomes especially spiritualized. Vanadis' energy is more ethereal than that of Freia/Frigga, to some extent.

So far it seems somewhat unusual to find a relationship of good standing without a significant aspect from Freia, Frigga, or Vanadis to Odin or Wodan. Because so many combinations are possible this may not seem strange; but it is worth your consideration. The conjunctions show up more often than it might be imagined statistically.

If the aspects are more stressful than harmonious overall between these 5 asteroids, the indications for the relationship are not especially good.
If there is a conjunction between Freia/Frigga/Vanadis and Odin or Wodan, look especially to aspects to the conjunction within the composite chart to have a microcosmic picture of the experience of the relationship for the duration of the committed union. Look at the midpoints which are conjunct that point, as well as those which oppose and square it. It is also worth looking into the semi and sesquisquares. The midpoints which are activated will speak volumes about the nature of the union between the two people.

Aspect Patterns (so far):

Composite Frigga conjunct Composite Ascendant

A relationship which is or appears to be full of integrity, enjoyment, and true love, one which feeds off of the environment in which it exists and thrives on the appeal it has for others as a union. The environment this couple finds themselves in is generally very supportive of this love union in various ways.

COmposite Wodan conjunct Composite Ascendant

Similar to the above description... I know of one couple who in their Composite they have Frigga conjunct Ascendant and in Davison have Wodan conjunct the ascendant. The idealized relationship is more loving, and the actual physical reality of the relationship and the way it projects is in keeping with this visionary reality. This couple, though not overwhelmingly compatible in various spheres, are very much known in their community for being a particularly stable couple with a great deal of integrity and love between them.

Composite Moon square Odin

posted July 17, 2016 08:34 PM            

"Just thought it was interesting that Odin is conjunct Sun and Frigga conjunct Moon, albeit widely. "

posted July 17, 2016 08:50 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Lilith Rising:
Thanks for bringing this up

Very interested to find out your interpretation of the aspects bellow:

My Frigga 1'19 Capricorn opposite his Venus 1'05 Cancer

His Frigga 26'5 Pisces opposite my Venus 26'06 Virgo

And obviously in our composite

14 Aqua Frigga opposite 13 Venus Leo (Venus in the 7th house)

It would be great if you could help me with that. Feels it is a missing piece of our synastry puzzle. I did a little search on Frigga but couldn't find a lot.

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Oppositions are difficult aspects which almost always seem to require some effort/work to consolidate. We need to learn to see and appreciate that other perspective or way of doing things, and broaden our perspective/attitude to encompass the usefulness and beauty of that opposite viewpoint. We are striving for equilibrium, but there can be much teetering in the interim... The potential is there... but at times the difference seems insurmountable.

However, with two symbols so similar to one another as Frigga and Venus, we might not expect too many issues. Some people think hard aspects from Venus-Venus or Jupiter-Jupiter are not truly 'hard' aspects, but I tend to disagree, having witnessed some rather serious difficulties as a result of hard aspects from Jupiter-Jupiter or Venus-Venus, . Though a planet may be a 'benefic,' both of these planets certainly have the capacity to manifest dark qualities. Overdoing it is a serious thing. So is over indulgence and over consumption.

Here there is something about each of your way of being in relationship which is both complementary and opposite to each other's Venus expression. Venus is going to take precedence in this exchange. Each of you, as Frigga in Capricorn and Pisces respectively, has quite different ways of approaching committed unions, and your attitudes towards wifeliness are respectively very conservative and traditional, structured, and needful of consistent application of effort (cap), and lucid, dreamy, inspired, and somewhat 'out to lunch'; Pisces Frigga prefers to Feel her way, to act as witness, and to go with the flow. Quite different from Virgo Venus, whose Venus is actually square the Capricorn Frigga person's Venus, correct? Albeit a bit widely and out of sign. I think the Venus-Venus square is simply being given more form and detail through the Frigga-Venus opposition double whammy. I think we're being informed here of the essential dissonance of the attitudes towards love and sex, as well as keys to their appreciation and resolution.

Pisces Frigga probably needs Virgo Venus' organizational skills to root them. And Virgo Venus would be very wise to appreciate Pisces Frigga's romanticism, which gives spice to life, and meaning to the routine tasks which must be done. What is the point, after all, of carrying them out, if there isn't some magic in life? So they can ground each other. Or they can criticize one another for being so ungrounded, for only wanting Love for practical reasons, or for sidelining romanticism altogether...

Of course Capricorn Frigga and Cancer Venus will have similar advice aimed at them, only in keeping with those signs. Capricorn Frigga will appreciate Cancer Venus' home making abilities, and Cancer Venus will feel protected by Capricorn's organization and commitment. This is a stable combination which does of course have some potential pitfalls as well. However, a Capricorn Frigga is naturally at her ease, if a little inhibited at times, believing that the proof of love and the expression thereof is made over time, with consistent application of energy. This profile fits very much with a Virgo Venus, who will in some cases put off all romantic considerations in favour of practical things, as they actually enjoy these more and sometimes get into relationships with a view to simply keep the machine humming. The key for them is to be present, to see the value in the little things, and understand that love and romance and softness and givingness can be very valuable in their own ways, and practical too!

Anyway, one person is watery and one person is earthly in their Venus/Frigga make up, right? At least at first glance. But interestingly, all of this gives us a fire/air polarity in the composite chart! We see a 14 Aqua Frigga in the 1st house, the midpoint of a Capricorn and a Pisces Frigga. The natural midpoint of those two signs, the natural sign to contain the sum of those two parts, those two people. We have a 14 Aqua Frigga who really understands how to remain centered and focused, who holds her centre and loves from a place of supreme indifference to the more carnal passions and need for personal display and recognition. Meanwhile, in the 7th house in Leo, Venus demands to be seen, heard, and appreciated. She needs to be seen by others as big hearted, magnanimous, loving, crucial, central. Aqua Frigga speaks to me of an overall somewhat austere way of expressing love, which is the self-expression of this couple, and the environment in which they predominantly find themselves... whereas in relation to other people they are warm and loving.

Then again, maybe the self expression and the environment in which they find themselves is particularly unusual, and they exhibit very strange seeming behaviour which at once thinks of the greater good and is yet aloof to the actual opinions of the individuals around them... and this is at odds with the need for approval which Leo Venus feels so keenly.

I feel like the Air Frigga might be related more closely to the Earth Venus/Frigga person's chart, and the Leo Venus might be linked in to the other person's chart. Just a guess. If you make up a synastry for each of them with the composite, do you find this to be true?