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barbriallen
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posted July 13, 2016 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for barbriallen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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comdoc
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posted July 14, 2016 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
40% overall synastry potential (below average). Sexual relationship not recommended. Let him go, and move on. How about a December Capricorn?

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posted July 14, 2016 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience, love exists beyond synastry.

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted July 14, 2016 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus-DC
Neptune-DC
NNode-ASc.
Pluto-IC

I think planet to angle conjunctions can create interest and a feeling that something *should* or *could* happen, but I think for the relationship to get off the ground, the planets must also interact with eachother.

There is Sun Tr. Moon, and a wide Moon cj. Venus, these are nice, but there is a lack of Saturn, so definition, structure and commitment may be difficult. But not impossible if both are prepared to roll up their sleeves a bit!

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posted July 14, 2016 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Venus-DC
Neptune-DC
NNode-ASc.
Pluto-IC

I think planet to angle conjunctions can create interest and a feeling that something *should* or *could* happen, but I think for the relationship to get off the ground, the planets must also interact with eachother.

There is Sun Tr. Moon, and a wide Moon cj. Venus, these are nice, but there is a lack of Saturn, so definition, structure and commitment may be difficult. But not impossible if both are prepared to roll up their sleeves a bit!


Whatever conjuncts the angles, gets enlargened and into the spotlight. Synastric aspects in which at least one planet is angular, need to be given extra-importance, they are very emphasized and probably to manifest clearly.
BUT I also agree, this is just the starting point, there have to be planetary aspects.

And yes, love goes beyond synastry.

Sometimes the progressed chart also tell the story.

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posted July 14, 2016 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, he's a lot older! It appears so to me anyway.
I'm not good with the astrology portion concerning synastry and maybe not with anything relationship wise. LOL

Here's my thoughts though, astrology kind of put to the side.
First thing, be careful. If he's engaged and you have feelings, that could get ugly. Especially if he seems to go along with it. I've been there! You might think, "It's only my feelings. I got this. I can handle it."
Maybe it's possible but most often when spending time with someone, nope. You don't. They'll bite you and it's too late.
I don't know what to tell you to do. You'll have to give that some thought. Are you REALLY in control of your feelings?

Twice I've found myself in that triangle of doom. (Three times depending on your technical viewpoint) It's brutal, ugly, nasty, painful, destructive. I don't advise touching that with a 10 foot pole.
Friendship seems innocent enough, but can you?!?
Think hard on that.

Normally I say, if you like someone, go for it. Go for broke! People fear getting hurt and that's a shame. But if it extends beyond the two of you (his fiance), that's a whole other ballgame and I don't recommend taking part.

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted July 14, 2016 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I missed the part about the other being engaged.
It doesn't change what I said about the astrology, HOWEVER, I absolutely do not think it's ever a good idea to pursue someone who is attached.

It's natural to have feelings for people, attached or not, but they are not available to you in the way you truly need them to be if with another and you are looking for commitment.

Use good judgement please.

The only time this is OK is if his partner is in agreement, and you are happy to share.

I hope I don't sound judgemental, it's just that acting on these situations can cause so much pain (personal experience, both ways).

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Lucia23
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posted July 14, 2016 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How did you get his exact birthtime? If you don't have it, all those angle conjunctions and anything that seems binding in the synastry dissolve, or are replaced by something unknown. It's weird that you would have his exact to-the-minute birthtime and "love" him and not know he was engaged to be married.

An unastrological note, echoing the ones above: he's engaged AND he has a daughter? And you didn't even know he was engaged? Even if this guy is enough of an evil, cheating sleazebag to open a romantic door with you in that situation---and there's no evidence from what you've said that he is, it's very possible he's just been kind and avuncular---you aren't just hurting his fiancé if you keep pursuing him, you will be hurting his daughter and messing with her family. WALK AWAY. I'm not sure how old his daughter is, but even if she's in her twenties this still applies. He should not be encouraging you. Better not to pursue a friendship, either, since you have a big crush and it's not clear he's respecting his fiancée's boundaries. Astrology alone doesn't cover this---every single one of us has a synastry with every single other human being alive---the synastry simply doesn't matter when it comes to pursuing a man who's engaged (or him pursuing you) and risking harm to his fiancee and daughter's psychological health in the future.

Astrologically, I don't see the synastry as especially painful OR wonderful/binding other than the angle conjunctions and nodal stuff. If you're working with a correct birthtime for both people, then there are strong angular connections in both directions, which means that the relationship is showing each of you something important about what you're looking for in a relationship (Venus-DC) and in a home life (Pluto/IC, loose Jupiter/IC.). My advice would be to spend time on your own thinking about this man and why you "love" him, what it is about who he is as a person and how he operates that you wish to bring more of into your own life. Some of how you see him is just fantasy/crush stuff since he's touching your 12th house so much and his Neptune's right on your DC, but that information (who/how you think he is) is very important in showing you things you wish to bring into your life.

I think because of the age difference, and your Saturns in the same sign, your feelings about him could help you do a deep exploration of your issues with your own father, working through some of those Saturn/dad issues in your own natal chart.

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barbriallen
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posted July 14, 2016 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for barbriallen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the responses everyone.

I definitely don't expect/want anything romantic at this point. I'm sure it's never even crossed his mind. I just can't decide whether or not to keep in touch.

We've talked about astrology and he told me his birthtime.

I'm moving out of town temporarily soon so I'm looking forward to being in a fresh environment.

The joys of Venus in Pisces haha

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posted July 14, 2016 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatedCinderella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My male friend is going to marry and they have a so so synastry so everything can happen...💚

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Lucia23
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posted July 14, 2016 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If both birth times are right, I bet he reciprocates the attraction. The Neptune and Venus angle conjunctions bring romantic fantasy. I don't see it as bad synastry at all--I don't think the synastry is the problem! It's hard to imagine a situation where he gives you his exact birth info (time and year included) and doesn't know that you're heavily crushing on him and planning to look up his astro information. Whether or not he told you before that conversation that he was engaged, it's also hard to imagine a situation where getting THAT chummy with a lovely twenty-year-old (?) or so Pisces Venus girl at work (?) for a couple of years would be appropriate.

I say it's good you're leaving, and best not to stay in touch at all. Good thing this is getting cut off before anyone really crossed a line. It's kind of heading in that direction. Now, it can be a pleasant memory of getting to know someone you adored.

Astrologically, I don't see the synastry as bad at all--squares to your Moon mean that someone touches you emotionally. The square feels more frustrating than a conjunction, but also more stimulating than a trine. Exact planet-angle conjunctions give the relationship a feeling of intensity and importance for both people.

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Lucia23
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posted July 14, 2016 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Comdoc, what's the synastry rating based on? I'd be curious to run some synastries through that calculatot.....

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