posted July 21, 2016 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
relevant as in bringing about a relationship? No.

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posted July 21, 2016 06:00 PM            

And it suddenly got me (Again) that it's ALL in the progressions.

Btw, I learned a thing, this (from that page);

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Example 10 Katherine Jenkins and Gethin Jones

I’ve added this relationship to this article to demonstrate the nature of oppositions which can act like both trines and squares. A Venus opposition at the outset of a relationship is intense and passionate, an opposition of Venus with Mars during a relationship can have the opposite effect, but here in a similar scenario to Perry and Brand, UK celebrities Katherine Jenkins and Gethin Jones experience a similar complex of aspects. They got together in 2007 under a trine and split at Christmas 2011 under a long lasting Venus/Mars opposition.

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posted July 21, 2016 10:52 PM            

Progressions are more depressing if you are missing something. Remember the lens you're looking through is always a bit limited by what you know to look for and what you're expecting/hoping for/dreading and often when reading for yourself.... creating.

Because astrology it's a participatory divining process and your interpretation is necessarily going to be coloured by your state of mind. So be careful.. they depress me too sometimes but the next day I see something else which makes me go ahhhh...

posted July 22, 2016 12:29 AM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
The thing to remember about progressions I'm noticing from looking at lots of data from couples such as my parents etc who are in my files...is that it actually doesn't need to be major aspects triggering events.... The quadrinoviles matter... The triseptiles matter... everything matters. At least when it comes to progressed-progressed, if we're looking exclusively at that...which I have been.

Progressions are more depressing if you are missing something. Remember the lens you're looking through is always a bit limited by what you know to look for and what you're expecting/hoping for/dreading and often when reading for yourself.... creating.

Because astrology it's a participatory divining process and your interpretation is necessarily going to be coloured by your state of mind. So be careful.. they depress me too sometimes but the next day I see something else which makes me go ahhhh...

I have noticed that my guy and I have progressed sun bideptile progressed sun and this will go on until at least 2025... now that I like. Our relationship is septile heavy, between luminaries etc, and it's very descriptive of the way we identify with one another... on another plane sometimes... it's subtle but profound and

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posted July 22, 2016 03:49 AM            

Because they're somewhat rare I can see why they might be termed fated... But that's a very general term to use, isn't it? Fated for--¿ Compatibility? Understanding?

Does it operate in the realm of compulsion, is it fated in the sense that it's very difficult to avoid or pretend away or dismiss, in that it will keep returning to haunt you until it achieves it's desired ends (conscious acknowledgment of a superconscious or divine connection?) This could be. edit: did a little digging around and have found an article referring to it as fated and I can see why from.that angle too... it makes you do things and you don't know why. For the life of you.... our relationship is a bit like that...

My partner and I have been linked in a number of quite astonishing ways over the course of our lives and through our family history; truly weird when I actually remember how far back we actually go and the innumerable ways circumstances have brought us together again and again... so I can see why given.our septiles (Venus septile Uranus in synastry, Sun triseptile Moon also, and much more I can't remember right now...they're all over), fated might be apt descriptor.. as vague as it seems...

posted July 22, 2016 04:01 AM            

But then again I could be wrong and it could be absolutely reliable, the big planets and ptolemaic aspects could be predominantly manifesting everywhere we look for them (and I know mir that you brace been looking for, and funding them! For a long time so please forgive my writing through this stuff out loud, and figuring it out slowly for myself). Likely I've been using too-tight orbs in my progression work to really see the big picture much of the time.

Back to the signs involved in oppositions though, I have read that Aries-Libra and Taurus-Scorpio are particularly compelling as pairs specifically because of their Venus-Mars rulerships, and our natal Sun-Venus oppositions are between these signs, as well as the progressed one coming up (my Pr.Scorpio Venus-his pr.Sun Taurus)... I have Taurus on the 7th. Cusp natally and it is my emptiest sign, the asteroids even seem to treat it like a desert... But I'm Scorpio heavy... He is a mega Taurus with Mercury Mars and Venus all in Taurus in his 12th, with Venus being the final dispositor conjunct Chiron-POF-and about ten love asteroids...

While for him, it's Libra that is starkly empty in his chart, and me with my 12th house Venus in Libra opposing his Aries Sun, and my True Lilith in Libra opposing his Aries Moon...

posted July 22, 2016 06:30 AM            

I guess if we use all minor aspects we will always find a progressed aspect that pleases us.

I also don`t think it is advisable to ONLY look progressed-progressed, the natal chart is still the basic chart so there should be any kind of tight relation back from the progressions to that.

posted July 22, 2016 06:47 AM            

I guess personally I would differentiate between those markers that might actually indicate what happens and those that describe the quality of a connection, the flair, though of course both of this things might overlap.

Predictive and descriptive, so to speak.

And possibly maybe for something to actually take place in the real world (like a coming together or break up), we would need strong transits to the relevant progressed aspects (and natal aspects) and/ or an emphasis of those which are foreground (conjunct or possibly square the angles; squares to angles play out differently than between planets, as they are actually the midpoint of an axis/ angle, and therefore indicate the point of integration, for example the exact square of a planet to ASC and DESC, describes how the person can integrate the Self (ASC) and the Other (DESC). )

posted July 22, 2016 08:17 AM            

He is a jolt of electricity, he can be both, about coming together or breaking apart. It depends what needs to be changed, cause he WILL change the status quo.

"the only thing constant is change"
Jekyll and Hyde - the musical