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Topic: DO NOT F WITH MERCURY SQ MARS SYNASTRY
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rorrr
Knowflake Posts: 191
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Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 22, 2016 04:50 AM
  
I realized after following up on my years-ago ancient post asking for more information about natal mars conjunct vertex in relocation charts that I should similarly impart lessons here.It doesn't matter if your beautiful happy relationship is 6 months or 8 months sweetness and games. Mine was too. But life is WAY too short to spend your energy soul and heart on somebody who will react physically and angrily to things you say. You deserve so much more dignity peace and grace in your life than that. DO NOT GET INVOLVED. THERE WILL BE OTHERS. I have had magical mercury synastries where it felt like our conversations reached a magical, transcendent plane (Neptune, of course) or that we could just talk for hours and completely understood each other and came away nourished (Moon, Jupiter). But Mercury square Mars synastry is the worst, worst, worst synastry in my opinion to have become is promises fights - and fights that will keep going, building, raging, until someone gets physically hurt. It's not worth it. Chances are you won't fall in love with people who square your moon or other awkward things, so those awful synastries are irrelevant - yet for Mercury square Mars, people often convince themselves that they can make it work. And they can't. Because one person usually ends up calling the cops. Anyway my lesson here is just don't do it. Run away as fast as you can. There's plenty more fish in the sea! IP: Logged |
margym0o
Knowflake Posts: 748
From: Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 22, 2016 09:17 AM
Well...let's not make broad sweeping statements about this placement. It's doesn't ALWAYS end in physical violence. For that, there has to be more involved (like Pluto) and the person who initiates the violent outburst must have a hot temper themselves so the natal chart comes into play.I agree this placement does cause friction as I've seen it play out in my own life and in those of people around me, but it's more heated arguments and misunderstandings. The Mars person gets annoyed by the things Mercury says and calls them out, which puts Mercury on the defense and so the argument begins. I think how well these people tolerate this friction depends on their own individual temperaments (which the natal can help explain). Some people feel a lot of inner angst and love to argue, feeling invigorated when doing so. Others prefer peace and harmony so this would be intolerable. I think as long as both people are tolerant of this energy or have the personality to put up with it, then it CAN work. It's highly individual though. IP: Logged |
Libracorn
Knowflake Posts: 302
From: Born in Saturn, grew up in Venus
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 22, 2016 09:20 AM
I feel like you're placing the blame on just one aspect in synastry. You don't have to run away from someone you have a Mercury-Mars square with. There are other aspects in synastry that can make things better for you both.
With physical fights and etc. that has more
to do with Mars-Pluto.
Also, get rid of the idea that just because you have poor aspects with someone, things won't work out. I have a very good friend of mine whose personal Capricorn planets are squaring most if not ALL of my personal Libra planets. But I think it balances out because at the same time, his Capricorn planets conjuncts my Ascendant. Which brings me back to saying, don't dismiss a relationship based on one aspect.
And yes, you 'may' fall in love with people who square your moon, but it will take additional effort compared to someone you have Moon trines/sextiles with. IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted July 22, 2016 10:48 AM
My husband and I have very bad aspects between Mars, Pluto, Uranus and Mercury. Yes, we can have pretty bad arguments but they don't involve physical violence and/or derogatory meanings. We fight fair. Despite this, we have other very nice and flowing aspects that overrule the other bad ones. One person can have a sh*tty looking chart BUT there's that one little placement that changes everything and makes it better. Secondly, we all kinda have a CHOICE in what we say and do towards others.. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
Knowflake Posts: 3123
From: South Africa
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 22, 2016 11:09 AM
I have Mercury-Mars square natally and i can get quite argumentative about 9th house issues (Mercury in 9th)So i can imagine the amount of restraint that one may have to practice when dealing with the same square in synastry. But at the same time, there is something super attractive about squares. They can be so stimulating and exciting(beating off even the conjunction). The tension pulls one in and may even be mistook for sexual tension(especially when Mars is involved).
My sister and I share an inconjunct synastry aspect between my Mercury in Cap and her Mars in Gemini. And it does most certainly feel that she does challenge most of what I say. Even taking on an offensive approach. But our Mars are in perfect trine , my Jupiter opposes her Mars and her Mars also conjuncts my North Node. So i do "get" her approach. Although i must add that Mars really does incite a passionate response on the other person (maybe because they just are so abrupt). So its not always the Mars person that throws the first punch. But it may certainly be the Mars person that inspires it  I have noticed that Mercury in Aries in composite also has a similar playout. Arguments and disagreements all round. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted July 22, 2016 11:17 AM
My son's Aries Mercury is square my Cap Mars, and my husband's Saturn is square both my Sun and Moon, conjunct my SN.Yes, we are all very LOUD, and we do disagree daily on the most petty stuff (we also all have Pluto, Uranus, and Saturn conjunct). But at the end of the day, pleasant Venus, Moon, and Pluto aspects win out. We aren't violent (although my son can lash out, but he's five and has an Aries stellium), and we always apologize where and when we need to. IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: Saturn next to Charmaine
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2016 12:25 PM
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
Knowflake Posts: 465
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Registered: Sep 2015
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posted July 22, 2016 01:38 PM
rorrr,I agree with you. I know people say as usual 'it depends'. Yes, it always 'depends' on other things going on, doesn't it. Let's just remember that in astrology squares are always bad news, they create tension. Yes, it is true that something good can come out of something bad, this aspect pushes us, makes us work and can actually help us grow and make things happen, we can all find many positives about squares if we look; but bottom line - square is problematic and never easy. I am very Mercurial. My Mercury is in my 3H, Sun as well. So in synastries with people anything like square and opposition to my Mercury is a big deal to me, also their Mercury to my planets, that's actually a lot worse. My Mars to their Mercury - they get on my nerves, their Mercury to my Moon and/or Venus - absolutely the worst, I just don't like what they say, I disagree with their views, we will talk, talk and talk but never find common ground. Even 'Let's agree to disagree' doesn't work, I tried. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
Knowflake Posts: 2890
From: intimate sky dot net
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 22, 2016 03:29 PM
Mercury square Mars is incredibly difficult, no getting around it. Only through it. Much compassion and understanding and true love and devotion are required to be able to work through this oneIP: Logged |
Lumi0
Knowflake Posts: 88
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Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 23, 2016 09:44 AM
Yup, I had the conjunction with my ex and we argued all the time, but my Sun was also opposite his Mars. Just too much Mars.IP: Logged |
liz45750
Knowflake Posts: 32
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Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 24, 2016 04:20 AM
I hate this aspect. I'm pretty sure i've always been the mars and I'm literally repulsed by the other persons voice, their opinions, their ideas, their entire thought process. I need them to get away from me, lol. At first I'm very attracted, then it changes to irritation every time.IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 18462
From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2016 09:10 AM
If you have a kind of fired-up Mercury, the kind that makes a thread called...DO NOT F WITH MERCURY SQ MARS SYNASTRY... it's probably going to be more problematic than if you natally have a mellow Mercury (or a mellow Mars). I'm not criticizing, I like fiesty Mercuries, just saying, they can be like ticking time bombs compared to something like Cap Mercury aspecting Saturn. IP: Logged | |
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