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Brendan34
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posted August 03, 2016 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My girlfriend and I of 7 years just recently broke up. It has been a difficult time as you can imagine. I looked up around the time we first fell for each other and kissed and it was right before a Super Full Moon in Capricorn in July of 2009.

We broke up shortly after the full moon in Capricorn on July 19, 2016. If anyone has any insight, or if there is any meaning behind this, I would appreciate any interpretation. I also have a Capricorn Moon in 8th house, 26 degrees.

One of the main reasons we broke up is because my girlfriend said she needed to focus solely on her future. I recently relocated to where she lives this year to focus on Our future, or so I thought. I made a sacrifice in moving to a much different area and this was a big change for me. At points I felt this wasn't recognized.

I know these things happen but it's hard to keep a clear perspective when you're going through it. I keep blaming myself and I don't know why. Essentially I feel small and lost. But just trying to stay positive and constructive, taking a day at a time.

Thanks for reading any any commentary would be appreciated!

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posted August 03, 2016 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for your loss.

It's pretty common for significant events to transpire on or near full moons, especially those that are conjunct our natal moon.

There was a full moon when I lost an ex who was important to me, and two weeks later there was a solar eclipse within a degree of my moon (which opposed his sun, so he was caught up in it, too.)

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Originally posted by Brendan34:
My girlfriend and I of 7 years just recently broke up. It has been a difficult time as you can imagine. I looked up around the time we first fell for each other and kissed and it was right before a Super Full Moon in Capricorn in July of 2009.

I also have a Capricorn Moon in 8th house, 26 degrees.


According to this site:
http://www.moonsigncalendar.net/new-full-moon-est.htm

The 2009 first kiss full moon took place at 15°24' Capricorn. Later that month there was an eclipse at 29°26' Cancer, also conjunct your moon, though not exactly.

Pluto can bring about an end of things, and it's interesting that Pluto was transiting at 15°56' Capricorn on July 19th, on the same degree as your first kiss full moon. i just look at that as a coincidence though.

If you look deeper into the charts, you will find more information about the nature and timing of the breakup.

It might help you gain some detachment and stop blaming yourself. From what I've seen, astrological influences are pretty strong and can virtually overwhelm our best intentions to hold something together.

If you want to post any charts here, I will stop back in to check them out, and hopefully others will, too.

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posted August 03, 2016 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Sorry for your loss.

It's pretty common for significant events to transpire on or near full moons, especially those that are conjunct our natal moon.

There was a full moon when I lost an ex who was important to me, and two weeks later there was a solar eclipse within a degree of my moon (which opposed his sun, so he was caught up in it, too.)

According to this site:
http://www.moonsigncalendar.net/new-full-moon-est.htm

The 2009 first kiss full moon took place at 15°24' Capricorn. Later that month there was an eclipse at 29°26' Cancer, also conjunct your moon, though not exactly.

Pluto can bring about an end of things, and it's interesting that Pluto was transiting at 15°56' Capricorn on July 19th, on the same degree as your first kiss full moon. i just look at that as a coincidence though.

If you look deeper into the charts, you will find more information about the nature and timing of the breakup.

It might help you gain some detachment and stop blaming yourself. From what I've seen, astrological influences are pretty strong and can virtually overwhelm our best intentions to hold something together.

If you want to post any charts here, I will stop back in to check them out, and hopefully others will, too.


Hi Faith, Thanks so much for your detailed response. I really appreciate the explanations. I would like to post our charts, but not sure how to do this here. I have tried this before and couldn't figure it out.

Thanks again for your words of support.

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posted August 03, 2016 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When we first kissed it was a Lunar Eclipse Full Moon in Capricorn, July 7, 2009: https://realastrologers.com/2009/07/04/fm-070309/

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posted August 03, 2016 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure if this works but this is our composite chart for the date we broke up 7/21/2016 (chart in the middle) and the other two charts are our natals: http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&nho2=2&btyp=671&mth=gw&sday=21&smon=7&syr=2016&hsy=-1&zodiac=trop&ayanam=0&helgeo=geo&rs=0&orbp=&ast=

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posted August 03, 2016 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately, the link doesn't work.

How to post charts:

If you click on the chart at astro.com, a new tab opens with a chart you can copy. Right-click, scroll down to copy image location. Then you paste that at an image hosting site like imgur.com.

Once the image is pasted there, you copy again and post it here like this:

[img]your link here[/img]

It's actually fast and easy once you have an account set up at an image hosting site.

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posted August 04, 2016 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[imghttp://i.imgur.com/lRkP4oW.gif [img]

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posted August 04, 2016 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry chart: [img]{img/}

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posted August 04, 2016 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did as you said but cannot figure this out.
http://imgur.com/gallery/Gwfm6

Synastry chart: http://i.imgur.com/lRkP4oW.gif

Composite chart: http://i.imgur.com/wj06U1g.gif

Let me know if any of the links work. The picture is not coming up when I try and copy and paste to here from imgur

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posted August 04, 2016 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brendan34:
Synastry chart: [img]{img/}

The links work!

They wouldn't post because you didn't have the brackets all right.

I posted your chart here and then thought better of it because you included names. One more thing you might like to do: edit out the personal information. Sorry it's so complicated, and maybe that's not important to you.

Anyway I'm looking at them now...be back in a minute.

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posted August 04, 2016 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure how much you've studied astrology, so I might be saying a bunch of things you already know. I'm organizing the information for my sake, mainly, as I try to get a sense of what's going on here.

Comment on synastry:

It's easy to see how you two were attracted to each other, just by glancing at the luminaries:

- Your moon trine her moon
- Her moon opposing your sun
- Your suns are square

Sun square sun isn't considered ideal, but it can be sometimes. It adds feeling and meaning, along with some tension.

Some more aspects for attraction:

- Her Mars opposing your moon, trine your Venus
- Your Sag Mars-Uranus opposing her sun-Jupiter, square her moon
- Your Pluto trine her Venus
- Your nodal axis conjunct her ASC/DSC axis (your north node on her descendant)...this could give a strong sense of fatedness, like you feel you were destined to be with her?

Additionally her north node is conjunct the composite chart's descendant. So on both sides, there is a sense of fatedness here.

Composite chart:
- Nice stellium in the 9th house: Jupiter, Mercury, sun (all these trine Saturn and Uranus.) Venus is also in the 9th, on the MC.
- The 8th house north node @ 29 Pisces is square 5th house Saturn-Uranus in Sag. This is big.

If a planet is squaring the nodes, it may show recurrent problems that have to be resolved in order for the relationship to survive. Working with these planets is a lesson for both people.

So here, composite Saturn-Uranus in Sagittarius is a focal point because it squares the nodes. Saturn builds and stabilizes, Uranus enlightens and destabilizes. Put these energies together and you have a really delicate balance to try and strike. Occasional break-ups are almost to be expected. In some ways, perhaps, it's like the strength of your relationship has been its flexibility. But sometimes it gets too flexible and falls apart? Uranus at 28 Sag forms the tighter square with the north node at 29 Pisces so it might prevail over Saturn here. Interruptions, surprises, unexpected turns, rebelliousness...these prevail sometimes. Her north node is in Aquarius, ruled by Uranus, so she's learned a lot through the relationship about handing Uranian instincts and situations.

Somehow it all has helped you two build towards that composite Pisces north node, towards a grander understanding of love, the universe, spirituality. 29 Pisces is arguably the most spiritually evolved degree in the zodiac. Some say it is.

Your Venus and Mercury are conjunct that north node, your ASC is square it, and in some ways it looks like you are or were more of the "guiding light" here. Your understanding and forgiveness going a long way towards healing rifts and putting things in a grander perspective.

Perhaps, though, because her moon is in Virgo, she has felt a little bit "lost at sea" and like her practical solutions were trumped by bigger-picture stuff. Your Sag planets could have also felt antagonistic to her at times, as if you thought she should be something she is not? Pushing a lesson too hard? Your Mars squares her moon so at times the way you exert yourself can rub her the wrong way, even if your intentions are good.

Your Mercury is sextile hers and it looks like communication is easy. Maybe she has felt free enough to tell you things that unfortunately hurt you.

I'm guessing, not a real astrologer, so please take this with a pinch of salt. It's hard for me to look at these charts and believe it's really over because they are so strong, so much is going on, and little break-ups are almost to be expected. But I don't want to give false hope either. Also, I don't see how any of the current transits really put a "nail in the coffin" for this relationship? But that could very well be, my lack of expertise.

Hmmm

I hope others comment!

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posted August 05, 2016 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith,

Thank you so much for your response and detailed descriptions. I know the basics about astrology but did not realize the significance of the nodes in our charts.

When you mentioned that there was a strong sense of being fated for one another, it definitely resonated with me. I do/did sense this but hard to tell now if she sensed this or not.

With the 9th house being prominent in our composite, we met on a Summer study abroad trip through our college and first fell for each other in Italy, so this could point to travel or the fact that the relationship began there. She also has Venus in her 9th house.

One thing to add, according to astrotheme, in her chart she is experiencing Uranus opposite Ascendant transit and Uranus square Mars. The descriptions add this would be the reason for upheaval, a full transformation.

Wanted to raise this and am wondering if this could be the case even though I know it is a generalization for Gemini's but this was the exact truth for me: "Gemini ends the affair when he or she gets bored or when a partner makes too many emotional demands. While the affair may appear to end suddenly, Gemini has no doubt been secretly unhappy for a long time. Once a decision to end the affair has been made it will be irrevocable and Gemini will merely freeze the lover out or vanish."

As a Pisces, I am sure there were times when I was more emotional because of moving and the transition this entails, having to find a new job, living in an area that was higher stress, more populated, etc. I feel like I stressed our relationship with my own personal stress and this just drove her away. Any time I brought up about communication in our relationship, she would avoid it or go out with friends. She ended up talking more to her best friend about our relationship than to me about it which made me feel weird and excluded. They both talked about their relationships to each other often and I feel like this can sometimes divide a relationship even more, if you're not trying to talk to the person you're with. There was a definite gap in communication and expression in our relationship. I always felt like I was making the effort to relate and she sort of checked out. Over time, it seemed like anything that came up on an emotional level bothered her and she would just get annoyed at me and basically shut me out. I know we come from different backgrounds in this respect, in my family we confide in each other emotionally through things and I never noticed this in her family at all. There never seemed to be any communication about your feelings. Maybe this comes down to the drastic difference in emotional nature with Pisces and Gemini. I'm not sure.

I feel like however she thought, or whatever her decision was with big things in the relationship, moving, etc. this was the way it was going.

i really appreciate your response. You don't think there are a lot of hard aspects in our synastry chart?

If anyone else has the chance to look at the charts I would appreciate any feedback or thoughts.

Thank you!

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posted August 05, 2016 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Brendan,

Thanks for your feedback. I'll reply more later. For now here's a bump...

'Hoping others will check out your charts and offer some insights on what they see.

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posted August 05, 2016 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Hi Brendan,

Thanks for your feedback. I'll reply more later. For now here's a bump...

'Hoping others will check out your charts and offer some insights on what they see.


Thanks again for the reply Faith. Much appreciated.

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posted August 05, 2016 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Brendan,

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With the 9th house being prominent in our composite, we met on a Summer study abroad trip through our college and first fell for each other in Italy, so this could point to travel or the fact that the relationship began there. She also has Venus in her 9th house.

Oh that's sweet, and it's nice to know the astrology was accurate.

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One thing to add, according to astrotheme, in her chart she is experiencing Uranus opposite Ascendant transit and Uranus square Mars. The descriptions add this would be the reason for upheaval, a full transformation.

Glad you caught that! Now that you mention it, I had the same experience: broke up with someone when Uranus was transiting conjunct my descendant. I regretted it later but it was too late by then. I see this July full moon was conjunct your moon, while the sun was transiting conjunct her Mars. Transiting sun conjunct Mars can light up our aggressive side. A full moon hitting Mars is going to really set a person off.

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Wanted to raise this and am wondering if this could be the case even though I know it is a generalization for Gemini's but this was the exact truth for me: "Gemini ends the affair when he or she gets bored or when a partner makes too many emotional demands. While the affair may appear to end suddenly, Gemini has no doubt been secretly unhappy for a long time. Once a decision to end the affair has been made it will be irrevocable and Gemini will merely freeze the lover out or vanish."

Glad you found something that helps explain what was happening with her. I wish I knew more about Gemini dating habits and could offer more information. Her sun is in the 8th house, so I would think she'd have more emotional depth and patience and than some other Geminis.

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I feel like I stressed our relationship with my own personal stress and this just drove her away.

That is really sad!

I see you are having a Saturn return. Most people (I think) have a really hard time around age 29-30, and undergo some change of perspective as well. Perhaps you could have done things differently to protect yourself and your relationship against all that stress, but then we all like to think people who love us will stick around when the going gets tough.

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Any time I brought up about communication in our relationship, she would avoid it or go out with friends. She ended up talking more to her best friend about our relationship than to me about it which made me feel weird and excluded. There was a definite gap in communication and expression in our relationship.

She has an 11H moon...so that is probably inevitable, that she will air out her feelings more amongst her friends. Also you two have a lot of hard Mars aspects in your synastry so there must have been some tension in the air, or impasses that you just couldn't get through. I guess communication can't solve everything, even when you have Mercury sextile Mercury.

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I always felt like I was making the effort to relate and she sort of checked out. Over time, it seemed like anything that came up on an emotional level bothered her and she would just get annoyed at me and basically shut me out.

Not sure, could be her Virgo moon opposing your sun? Though in my experience Virgos are usually pretty emotionally available.

Possibly it's her Cap Uranus square your Mercury:

When your Mercury forms a challenging aspect (square, opposition, or quincunx) to your partner’s Uranus, your partner is stimulating and intriguing but can also often throw you off course with his/her surprises. Your Uranus partner might find that your opinions are too superficial or traditional, while you might find his/her opinions too off the wall. You can be very impatient with one another. You might find it hard to truly depend on your Uranus partner. Appointments/dates may be cancelled without warning, for example. Communication between you could often be stressful.
http://cafeastrology.com/synastry/mercury_uranus_aspects.html

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Maybe this comes down to the drastic difference in emotional nature with Pisces and Gemini. I'm not sure.

Yes...but I do know some happy Gem-Pisces couples.

Also, your Aries Mercury may have felt too direct and maybe even forceful to her. Not to sound accusative because how would I know anything...but your Mercury is ruled by your Sag Mars, which opposes her sun and squares her moon. Without meaning to, you may have stressed her out.

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I feel like however she thought, or whatever her decision was with big things in the relationship, moving, etc. this was the way it was going.

i really appreciate your response. You don't think there are a lot of hard aspects in our synastry chart?


Yes there are a lot of hard aspects. Kannon McAfee is one of the real astrologers here, and he says we should count the red aspect lines versus blue lines and see which color wins. We don't want red-line predominant relationships, he says (and it makes sense, I suppose). I get a little lost counting but I think you two have 7 red and 8 blue.

Seems overly technical to reduce it all down to that. LOL

But if you think it was heading in this direction, and are coping well enough with the outcome, I guess the pragmatic view can be helpful...where you see that the relationship was fraught with tension and red lines. Possibly someone else would make you happier, but if you really love her and have a sense of fate about it, I guess there is no sense talking about that.

At any rate I can wish you luck!

And maybe, maybe still yet...someone else will comment. Seven years is a long time to spend with a person so I hope you can get an analysis that comforts you, and puts things in a broader or clearer perspective.

Cheers, nice talking with you.

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posted August 06, 2016 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith,

Thank you so much for your time and attention, I truly appreciate it right now. I do think my Aries mercury could be too direct at first. I feel like I would always acknowledge if I was wrong later though and people sometimes say things they regret, especially an Aries mercury.

I feel like my mind is telling me to be pragmatic in getting through this period of time but inside I'm really struggling and feel a great sense of loss and confusion. I really do love her and feel like this was a lot to throw away. I feel I made a sacrifice in moving to where she plans to be. But I know the anxiety I had about moving, finding a job there was hard on our relationship since it was a lot of change for me at once. I am also a home loving, oriented person (Cancer rising). I can't help this and it's just been a major part of my life. I finally did get used to living in a new place in the past two months but by then it seemed like she had distanced herself from me on an emotional level.

The last time I saw her after writing her a letter acknowledging some of these things, and apologizing for going through a hard time in moving, I could tell that she had already distanced herself from our relationship. It was painful when it seemed like a practical decision for her, whereas for me it's an emotional consideration. It seemed like she was already ready to be friends (as we were breaking up). I could just tell this and realized how different we are on an emotional level. The pain of losing someone that your heart and mind goes to for that long, it just seemed fickle.

She also broke up with me after I had a panic attack, after getting a job interview and making some progress (I deal with social anxiety and this was not a good day). I could tell the breakup was not planned. She was going to a friend's to study and just before sent me a text with joke memes in them. If it was really planned, I don't think she would have done it this way. It's almost like I could not express myself or any emotions over time without there being repercussions.

Really appreciate you taking the time to make these interpretations. Thank you so much for your consideration Faith! Wishing you the best as well with everything.

-Brendan

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posted August 06, 2016 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, just a random question but how would my 8th House moon factor into our relationship? Wondering if this has a significant impact or not.

Just a side note, according to pullen astrology, Saturn is my most dominant planet.

Thanks again for the generous responses.

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The moon in 8th...ehhhhh...not easy.

The moon attaches emotionally and gets entangled: Wanting stability,love and reciprocation.

8th house is erratic and subject to changes and disruptions.Too emotionally taxing for the moon.

In chaldean astrology,the moon is the archetype ruler of the 7th house and saturn is the same for the 8th.

So the ruler of the 7th house in the 8th would suggest a relationship(moon)coming to an end(8th) or facing an uncertain future.

Even in modern astrology with Moon the archetype ruler of the 4th and Mars/Pluto the ruler of the 8th.

The emotional safety(4th) is compromised as it is subject to upheavals and fights(Mars) or loss(Pluto). Or you could be attracted (8th) to a female(Moon) that is very independent (archetype ruler Mars) or wants absolute control(archetype ruler Pluto)

What additional aspects does the Moon make? For you to move so far for your girlfriend really does show commitment,dependability and a stable character (Capricorn).

But the Moon is in Saturn-ruled Capricorn ,so there is also the possibility that this great restraint and slowness in expressing emotional feelings can also have people perceive this moon as distant,rigid and cold.

So i wonder how strong the moon and Venus is in your chart and whether they are challenged by other planets? As I can't seem to access any of the charts posted.

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posted August 06, 2016 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Brendan

Sorry if I sounded insensitive even suggesting that you might be able to take a pragmatic view, this soon after the breakup.

"It was painful when it seemed like a practical decision for her, whereas for me it's an emotional consideration."

I can relate.

By the way I have an 8H moon as well.

A recent thread on 8H moons ~ includes a good article about it: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/235923.html

I'm about to post your charts below, for people who can't get your links to work. Please let me know if you'd like me to take them down.

Thanks for the best wishes ~ likewise.

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posted August 06, 2016 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aries 23 Degrees

Thanks so much for your insights.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
As I can't seem to access any of the charts posted.

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posted August 07, 2016 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
The moon in 8th...ehhhhh...not easy.

The moon attaches emotionally and gets entangled: Wanting stability,love and reciprocation.

8th house is erratic and subject to changes and disruptions.Too emotionally taxing for the moon.

In chaldean astrology,the moon is the archetype ruler of the 7th house and saturn is the same for the 8th.

So the ruler of the 7th house in the 8th would suggest a relationship(moon)coming to an end(8th) or facing an uncertain future.

Even in modern astrology with Moon the archetype ruler of the 4th and Mars/Pluto the ruler of the 8th.

The emotional safety(4th) is compromised as it is subject to upheavals and fights(Mars) or loss(Pluto). Or you could be attracted (8th) to a female(Moon) that is very independent (archetype ruler Mars) or wants absolute control(archetype ruler Pluto)

What additional aspects does the Moon make? For you to move so far for your girlfriend really does show commitment,dependability and a stable character (Capricorn).

But the Moon is in Saturn-ruled Capricorn ,so there is also the possibility that this great restraint and slowness in expressing emotional feelings can also have people perceive this moon as distant,rigid and cold.

So i wonder how strong the moon and Venus is in your chart and whether they are challenged by other planets? As I can't seem to access any of the charts posted.


Thanks a lot for your observations here, really appreciate it. For a Capricorn moon, I am pretty expressive (Cancer Rising, Pisces Sun perhaps). I'm also rather sentimental, and the people I'm closest to just recently described me as "a loving person" after we broke up. But I am definitely a low key seeming person.

I believe I have Moon sextile Venus, Moon sextile Mercury, Venus conjunct Mercury, Venus square Uranus and Venus square Ascendant.

I found this description on astro.com for my rising sign and it definitely rings true for my personality, I feel this on a daily basis:

"Your vulnerability to external influences makes you subconsciously imitate the manners and ways of those with whom you relate.
In many instances, circumstances will require that you play the role of worldliness and sophistication but under the mask there will exist a very sensitive human being who is easily offended, and also very perceptive of the more subtle influences and impressions, as well as of psychic vibrations."

Also worth pointing out, her Sun is in the 8th house also.

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posted August 07, 2016 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
@Brendan

Sorry if I sounded insensitive even suggesting that you might be able to take a pragmatic view, this soon after the breakup.

"It was painful when it seemed like a practical decision for her, whereas for me it's an emotional consideration."

I can relate.

By the way I have an 8H moon as well.

A recent thread on 8H moons ~ includes a good article about it: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/235923.html

I'm about to post your charts below, for people who can't get your links to work. Please let me know if you'd like me to take them down.

Thanks for the best wishes ~ likewise.


Faith, you didn't sound insensitive at all and I really appreciated your analysis and taking the time to do so. Thank you for the link and posting the charts is fine with me.

Take care.

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Originally posted by Faith:
@Aries 23 Degrees

Thanks so much for your insights.


Wondering if anyone else has any interpretations based on these charts? If Todd has any comments about them, it would be much appreciated. Thank you.

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Originally posted by Brendan34:
Thanks a lot for your observations here, really appreciate it. For a Capricorn moon, I am pretty expressive (Cancer Rising, Pisces Sun perhaps). I'm also rather sentimental, and the people I'm closest to just recently described me as "a loving person" after we broke up. But I am definitely a low key seeming person.

I believe I have Moon sextile Venus, Moon sextile Mercury, Venus conjunct Mercury, Venus square Uranus and Venus square Ascendant.

I found this description on astro.com for my rising sign and it definitely rings true for my personality, I feel this on a daily basis:

"Your vulnerability to external influences makes you subconsciously imitate the manners and ways of those with whom you relate.
In many instances, circumstances will require that you play the role of worldliness and sophistication but under the mask there will exist a very sensitive human being who is easily offended, and also very perceptive of the more subtle influences and impressions, as well as of psychic vibrations."

Also worth pointing out, her Sun is in the 8th house also.


Well no wonder my description sounded off, I work on whole sign system and thus with Cancer Ascending, you would have the Moon in the 7th house.

You moved mountains to be with this girl? Moon in 7th is very romantic and can get attached.So there is no surprise there

Now with Moon also in Capricorn,you may be drawn to a partner that is both nurturing but also inwardly capable and strong.

Read the Moon in 7th house description to see if you agree as in Chaldean astrology, this position is where the Moon is meant to be i.e the negotiator,the partner, the supporter etc.

The desire for the Moon in 7th is marriage. And with Cap, there is a double emphasis on this as Saturn ruled Cap wants structure. And your partner(7th) will give you that.

Your Cancer Asc is very sweet and thus with the ruler(Moon) in the 7th house, you want your partner to "mirror" you and complement you.

But with Moon in 7th(as I pointed out), your partner will be amiable and sweet. But there will be an ambitious and career-oriented quality about them(Cap).

Your partner has Asc in Libra with Sun/Jupiter in the 9th house and Moon in the 12th.

She has her DSC in Aries. So she is looking for partners with whom she can spar with i.e the assertive, passionate and competitive type.

But since her Mars is in the 10th house and Cancer, it is likely that her partners(7th house)are very ambitious but are conflicted too.

there is a complexity with mars in Cancer as it is a very touchy and defensive placements. So when in the 10th house it suggests someone who works very hard at their career, but is very much conflicted and feels guilty that their personal life takes a back seat to that.

As Cancer is all about feeling emotional security. It may be likely that the partner (7th) may be married to the career or may be the type to create their security around the career.

Her Cancer Mars conjunct your Asc in Cancer(by sign) is a powerful attracting force. As is the Mars in Cancer opposing your Moon in Capricorn.

The problem may be that she is committed to her career(Venus rules her 1st house and is also in the 10th) whilst you are committed to the relationship


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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
Well no wonder my description sounded off, I work on whole sign system and thus with Cancer Ascending, you would have the Moon in the 7th house.

You moved mountains to be with this girl? Moon in 7th is very romantic and can get attached.So there is no surprise there

Now with Moon also in Capricorn,you may be drawn to a partner that is both nurturing but also inwardly capable and strong.

Read the Moon in 7th house description to see if you agree as in Chaldean astrology, this position is where the Moon is meant to be i.e the negotiator,the partner, the supporter etc.

The desire for the Moon in 7th is marriage. And with Cap, there is a double emphasis on this as Saturn ruled Cap wants structure. And your partner(7th) will give you that.

Your Cancer Asc is very sweet and thus with the ruler(Moon) in the 7th house, you want your partner to "mirror" you and complement you.

But with Moon in 7th(as I pointed out), your partner will be amiable and sweet. But there will be an ambitious and career-oriented quality about them(Cap).

Your partner has Asc in Libra with Sun/Jupiter in the 9th house and Moon in the 12th.

She has her DSC in Aries. So she is looking for partners with whom she can spar with i.e the assertive, passionate and competitive type.

But since her Mars is in the 10th house and Cancer, it is likely that her partners(7th house)are very ambitious but are conflicted too.

there is a complexity with mars in Cancer as it is a very touchy and defensive placements. So when in the 10th house it suggests someone who works very hard at their career, but is very much conflicted and feels guilty that their personal life takes a back seat to that.

As Cancer is all about feeling emotional security. It may be likely that the partner (7th) may be married to the career or may be the type to create their security around the career.

Her Cancer Mars conjunct your Asc in Cancer(by sign) is a powerful attracting force. As is the Mars in Cancer opposing your Moon in Capricorn.

The problem may be that she is committed to her career(Venus rules her 1st house and is also in the 10th) whilst you are committed to the relationship


Thanks so much for your analysis here. I agree about the Aries descendant. Also, your pointing out she just to focus on her career over the relationship. Highly accurate.

However, from every chart I've ever seen, my Moon is in 8th House. My first two houses fall in Cancer because my rising sign is on the zero degree. My 7th and 8th house are both in Capricorn, but Moon (late Capricorn degree) falls in 8.

Her Sun is in the 8th house and her Venus and Mars are in the 9th house.

Thank you again for your response here. I appreciate it.

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