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Loveher
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posted August 03, 2016 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the women ive been in contact with had at least one planet in my 12th house. And i was totally attracted ot attached to them. But how does it effect the panet person especially sun moon venus mars saturn?

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posted August 04, 2016 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted August 04, 2016 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The planet person has a DEEP, SOULFUL connection with the 12th House person and can kind of see into their soul, ime

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posted August 04, 2016 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed they seem like they look at me in a different light different than the others. But i never thought that the planet person would feel the same but im wondering do they hide it or me as the house person is difficult for me to see it?

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posted August 04, 2016 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The planet person has a DEEP, SOULFUL connection with the 12th House person and can kind of see into their soul, ime


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posted August 04, 2016 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I put my Jupiter in my partner's 12th... I have a lot of understanding and compassion and forgiveness for that in him which he doesn't always necessarily see in himself and yet which informs so much of who and what he is... including the not so pretty... the stuff which would have people isolate themselves from society, the stuff which makes them feel like imprisoning those aspects of themselves, or signing themselves up for a mental ward, or entering a convent... You know... that's the stuff the planet person perceives.

His Pluto and Saturn (by a fraction of a hair) are in my 12th. It's hard to be seen like that... but I deeply appreciate having that in me which is hidden to myself revealed to me so mercilessly through his own natural expression of his Pluto especially. He isn't necessarily unending to reveal it to me, but just by being himself he does me unowned aspects of my own Plutonian nature and shows the way to transcendental love through forgiveness of unacceptable things... which when gee expresses them I can forgive but I wouldn't have known how to in myself...

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posted August 04, 2016 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Loveher:
I noticed they seem like they look at me in a different light different than the others. But i never thought that the planet person would feel the same but im wondering do they hide it or me as the house person is difficult for me to see it?

IT IS UNSPOKEN

It is felt

There are really not words to explain the depth and connection of these kinds of things.


My Venus was in his 12th house and I loved him in such a deep way that it was crazy lol

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posted August 04, 2016 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a 12th house Venus natally and so does he... We both benefit a lot from 12th house overlays, because otherwise our love nature is pretty locked up... or is oozing everywhere... anyway.

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posted August 04, 2016 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is 12th house synastry to me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhRuIqIy7Iw


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posted August 04, 2016 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me too I had this two girls jad their venus in my 12th house they were crazy about me and loved me no matter what but since both had their sun in my 11th house all what infelt about them is freindship amd whenever i wanted somethinh more they turn into a cold ppl.
Two women jad their moon in my 12th house i was crazy about them they were a bit egoistics with other people but turn to a soft sweet woman when they talk to me i liked the emotional connectiom but still i felt i cant be myself
A girl had her mars saturn sun in my 12th house she seem like she saw the best in me even though i was messed up and she seemed happy when i try to get better as much as i wanted to be close as much as she remind me of my past love failures i ran away then some back then ran away

jupiter in 12th house seem spertual and a good well connection

Lool i like this song

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posted August 04, 2016 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:

There are really not words to explain the depth and connection of these kinds of things.


Well one can always Google the particular planet overlays to get some more specific ideas of how it might play out.

Moon/12th overlay is different from Mars/12th overlay.

No sense being overly simplistic and blurring all distinctions.

Unless we just want feel-good conversation where everyone believes we are seeing into others' souls. Not sure I would even want that.

Out of respect for people I need their confirmations that my hunches about them are correct, which requires time and effort and building trust towards communication. Without conversation I would have nothing to go on about whether or not my sense about them had any relevance to them or us, or if it was just a figment of my imagination.

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posted August 04, 2016 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That being said...

quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I put my Jupiter in my partner's 12th... I have a lot of understanding and compassion and forgiveness for that in him which he doesn't always necessarily see in himself and yet which informs so much of who and what he is... including the not so pretty... the stuff which would have people isolate themselves from society, the stuff which makes them feel like imprisoning those aspects of themselves, or signing themselves up for a mental ward, or entering a convent... You know... that's the stuff the planet person perceives.

His Pluto and Saturn (by a fraction of a hair) are in my 12th. It's hard to be seen like that... but I deeply appreciate having that in me which is hidden to myself revealed to me so mercilessly through his own natural expression of his Pluto especially. He isn't necessarily unending to reveal it to me, but just by being himself he does me unowned aspects of my own Plutonian nature and shows the way to transcendental love through forgiveness of unacceptable things... which when gee expresses them I can forgive but I wouldn't have known how to in myself...


I love this comment, and you prove my point: you work for this.

ETA: Hope that doesn't sound like I am appropriating or distorting your comment, I'm just imagining the effort it takes to withstand "inspection" and adjust to being known or perceived in new ways.

My Mars in my husband's 12th is work, and effort, and frustration as I walk that fence between wanting to help/change him and wanting to leave him alone.

How does the planet person feel?

Honestly a bit exhausted, over the years....but also enchanted in a particular way...the enchantment is the fuel that sustains the effort. Whatever plunges into Neptune's domain had better be strong or it runs the risk of drowning there. But it depends on the rest of the synastry, the lifelines, the anchors.

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posted August 04, 2016 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The girl who has mars in my 12th house did the same thing she wanted to help me a lot and she was happy about it her jupiter conjunct my midheaven too but soemtimes she do leave me alone she expect me to put the effort sometimes she do try but she expect me to be the one that actually go to her and do the talking.

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posted August 05, 2016 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm.. It could be just a coincidence, but I dream more often of people whose moon falls in my 12th.
Not had any other planet overlay (that I know of)..

Moon/12th: The moon person usually feels likes spilling their guts to the house person - about everything, their childhood fears, special memories, etc. Since my 12th is Aqua, I'm pretty sure it's the Moon/12th that causes this, 'coz Aqua moons aren't all that "gushy", esp with people they barely know.
I find that they (moon person), sometimes struggle to put their feelings into words. One could say that it's similar to an 8th house overlay - in that it triggers subconscious feelings in both. But *different* in that it's not as invasive, it's a more tender, enveloping sort of effect.

The good: When the people involved have a real connection, the compassion and intuitiveness almost surpasses moon-neptune, even. If we reduce it to the fact that the moon represents our "needs" :: then we can safely say the moon person intuits the 12th house person's *unspoken* needs and strives to fulfill them.

The bad: When trust is not in place, each can think the other is holding back. Mostly the moon person, though. They get frustrated at what they see as the 12th house person being too closed off and withholding things (key emotional events). The complaint is that either or both don't openly "share" enough. Maybe because on some level, they feel like they shouldn't have to verbalize their feelings in the first place (?)

So, not taking each other's emotional support for granted is key.

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posted August 05, 2016 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree one of the girls who had her moon in my 12th house was so open with me about ber life even the sad events she told me about them even though i was closed off about my family i told her about my love life unfortunately she used it against me she manipulate my weaknesses and valunrablties against me. Maybe because also she has her sun in my 8th house we had a lot of power struggles too.
But she tried her best though to show me love and was obsessed about making me feel cared for and happy.

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posted August 05, 2016 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My natal 12th house sun, venus, merc, neptune, uranus are in my s.o's 12th house. His 12th house neptune is in my 12th house.

Always feel "close", even when we are apart physically. Feels like a part of him has melted into my soul and become a part of me.

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posted August 05, 2016 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Loveher:
I agree one of the girls who had her moon in my 12th house was so open with me about ber life even the sad events

There's a member here that their moon is in my 12th, conjunct my Venus.
My mercury, Venus, mars in her 12th.
All of that in our 12th natal as well!

I don't get that feeling of "seeing into your soul". Maybe they feel differently. I get that from Pisces. However, I quoted this post because they are fairly guarded, except with me. They seem to tell me quite a bit when we talk though we don't talk much.

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posted August 05, 2016 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interested in hearing more on putting mars in someones 12th! Is there sexual attraction?

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posted August 05, 2016 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No. They are very attractive and I recognize that but I honestly do just see them as a good friend. Which almost has a brother/sister type feel to me now. I'm thinking that they feel similarly.

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posted August 05, 2016 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 12th house is picses thats why everything seemed karmic and confusing lol
Whats your 12th house that made you and a memeber here dont talk much?

Actually the girl who has her mars in my 12th house we had a strong sexual attraction we stare at each other back when we think the other person not looking i caught her doing that lol the sexual attraction is so overwhelming to the point we cant have a normal conv we would stare at each other eyes and get speechless and ran away
Her venus also in my 1st house her lilith conjunct my mars her eros conjunct my venus and my eros and lilith conjunct her pluto. Even though we have squares to venus and mars from saturn.

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posted August 05, 2016 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 12th and first are Virgo (intercepted 12th)
Her 12th is Virgo.

There's nothing intentional on either end to not talk much. We're just busy doing whatever but I care about her in that very platonic way. When we feel like it we'll talk but like I said, there's no real reason.
Actually there's another like that with her Venus and mercury in my 12th and my moon in her 12th. It's another member here, very similar type of feeling. It's always very enjoyable when we do talk. Kind of brother/sister feeling there also.

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posted August 05, 2016 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ammmm intersting if i would guess the reason i would say because virgo is the ruler of the house which is controlled by mercury and since there is also an aspect with mercury in 12th house it means siblings like feelings because in vedic astrology meecury rules siblings.

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posted August 05, 2016 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith, we good not appropriative, appreciated it... although I had to wince through my unintelligible autocorrect typos.... ... it is indeed a challenge to withstand inspection, especially to realize the things you really REALLy didn't realize about yourself...

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posted August 05, 2016 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am interested in how someone's Mars in someone's 12th feels, too!

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posted August 05, 2016 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mohini108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes! Bump!

I always wonder too what does the PLANET person feel. The 12th house is so mysterious. It rules the subconscious, and deep parts of the mind. Honestly, it could go either way, not just for the 12th house, but for any of the houses.

For example, a while ago, I was MASSIVELY attracted to a girl in a purely sexual way. Utter lust. She had her Sun, Venus and Mercury in my 8th house! Obviously, I'm sure there were some planet to planet aspects that helped, but it was powerful nonetheless.

Another girl I know recently, has her Sun in my 8th house, and her Venus in my 7th. I feel nothing for her. I mean, she's cute, but no significant attraction whatsoever. So, I'm guessing certain PLANET aspects play a part in triggering certain emotions, and how powerfully they get triggered. Whether or not it's in relation to houses, I don't know.

But I am REALLY curious about someone's Venus in another's 12th house. It's a fascinating one. Venus in another's 8th, 5th or 7th, as we all know, can bring out potential sexual and/or romantic attraction. But the 12th? It's like something different.

Here's an example:

A girl has a Venus in my 12th house, and I am absolutely smitten, SMITTEN I tell you. We also have a Venus Conjunct Jupiter (exact), and Virgo happens to rule my 12th house. She has her natal Venus in Virgo, and a natal Venus trine Jupiter.

Ok, wouldn't it be safe to conclude the girl would FEEL something powerful on her end too?

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