posted August 03, 2016 07:22 PM            

Specifically I have just begun exploring the event chart composite of the moment a horary question is asked with the charts of the querant and quesited, which by the magic of synchronicity and astrology can possibly (just a theory..) provide extra intense and meaningful EVCs which give in depth meaning to the experiences of each part in relation to the question. More on this later.

So many people come into IA with specific questions about their relationship and what will happen. If you're really interested in knowing, and feel the time is right to ask a certain question, I just want to state here in IA that using horary on its own has the capacity to provide answers, and would like to open the floor to others here to discuss their experiences and opinions of it.

Have you noticed that when you've asked horary questions, you've been able to derive meaningful answers which turned out to be true? Have you found otherwise?

I respectfully request the moderators to indulge me in keeping this thread in IA, because I think it's important in conjunction with other methods and can be very useful to consider as a relationship analysis method, and should be made aware of here in IA so that Horary Astrology gets more traffic and respect, which I believe it rightfully deserves.

Things I want to discuss in this thread:

I read somewhere that Lilly asserts that comparing the horary chart with the charts of the individuals in question can provide meaningful information and so I would like to open the floor to those of you who have asked or will be asking horary questions to compare/contrast their charts with horart charts.

I could be wrong that it was Lilly who said so, but somebody I respect somewhere did say so...

I would also like to discuss the efficacy of using midpoints and asteroids in the analysis of horary charts.

I also want to look at the EVC of the moment a horary question of significant import is asked, because I believe these EVCs may provide special insight into the experience of each partner in relation to the birth time of the question.

posted August 03, 2016 07:37 PM            

"Will D and I be happily married?"

I know, we are a long term mistress couple. And for sure, neither of us is gettin married any time soon, especially not if it's not DEEPLY right. The horary chart, interestingly enough, confirms my suspicions, based on numerous other predictive techniques, that it will be in about 6 years if it happens at all, because my significator and his significator are in an applying square in fixed signs.

Lilly states:

"The degree of the application of Moon to Sun or Venus, or Lord of the ascendant to the Lord of the seventh, or Lord of the seventh to the Lord of the ascendant; if it be in moveable Signes, Dayes; in common Signes, Moneths; in fixed Signes, Yeers; according to that time the Marriage shall be performed."

( from http://www.renaissanceastrology.com/lillysrulesformarriage.html )

For a more complete interpretation of this horary chart please click here to go to the thread in Horary Astrology
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum36/HTML/001282.html

The horary chart:

EVC with his chart:

EVC with my chart:

posted August 03, 2016 07:49 PM            

My natal ascendant however is also 2 degrees or under of its sign, and I am 27, both of which I have read, in separate places, render this a non issue. I still have certain doubts and am willing to think that the universe has provided me this margin of doubt... and grace... for a good reason. I don't believe we receive answers before we are ready, before they are useful.

I have been stressing a bit, thinking this horary chart indicates that we will be married but it will be stressful.Venus and Mars, our significators respectively, are in an applying square in fixed signs, and receive each other by face.

I have been seeing iur relationship through the lens of this aspect and it is scarily apt. I am, have always been, the pursuer, the instigator, the most ardent, perhaps. Yet I remain Venusian, and he, Martian. My Venus in applying square to his Mars shows that he holds the cards, as his significator is exalted in Scorpio. And well.. It's Mars.

I acknowledge that there is every possibility that these EVCs don't mean that much, but my gut tells me they mean something.

The ascendant and north node of his EVC there are conjunct our composite Venus. My ascendant in my EVC is conjunct my own Venus. His EVC MC is conjunct his natal Sun; my EVC vertex is conjunct our composite North Node.

You can see that asteroid 111111, whose discovery chart is eerily synced with both of our natal charts, is at 27 degrees of my EVC, which is conjunct his natal North Node. You can also see the significance of 111111 in the Horary chart itself, conjunct Mean Node, which is square my Sun/Moon midpoint.

And the midpoint of 111111 and 131313 is exactly conjunct the nodes of the horary chart.

I know so much of asteroid astrology can seem speculative, but I feel a strong sense of knowing... SOMETHING... about these ones, and it seems clear they are trying to get my attention. I was born on the 13th, he on the 11th. I was born the 11th month, he the 4th, and 1+3=4. That's gotta count for something

posted August 03, 2016 07:57 PM            

Venus is the final dispositor of his natal chart,.it trumps everything for him. Pluto is my chart ruler and dispositor of my Sun and Mercury.

The Sun/Moon midpoint of his EVC = Vesta and Ceres. I do tend to try to go by the rule of 3, and Vesta is undeniably prominent in the horary chart itself, tightly conjunct the midheaven, so this one gets a special check Mark in my brain, as Vesta usually does (she is conjunct my ascendant and his Sun, respectively, in our natal charts).

posted August 03, 2016 08:06 PM            

Rule of 3 again, to check whether Boda is merely incidental, and we see it tightly conjunct the Moon in the horary chart, and prominently placed in my EVC as well, =my natal SunMoon midpoint, giving it primary significance if we are inviting asteroids to the party... which... we are

And then we would look to the progressions. By progression he and I will have Boda conjunct Boda in a few years. I forget when exactly. My Boda is conjunct his ascendant, in synastry, and we have Boda conjunct Juno in composite.

posted August 03, 2016 08:21 PM            

I feel like the asteroids kinda tell the tale, as well as chart ruler conjunct Venus.

Here we see the nodes square his natal SunMoon midpoint and Amor conjunct it.

The SunMoon midpoint of this EVC is conjunct the ascendant and his name asteroid...

Not to mention Jupiter Saturn on the IC, and there's Boda square his Nodes.

Of course this whole method is somewhat questionable but I think if EVCs work and horary works... well, heck... I'll see you all in 6 years and let you know.

Now who's got one we could verify a little sooner??

... or reasons I've got rose coloured glasses and the original horary is just a definite no?

posted August 03, 2016 10:22 PM            

You can't make this stuff up... (referring to Isis, Osiris, Eros and Psyche all around 6, 7 degrees? Whaaa?)

Edit... figured it out. The midpoints... the midpoints... *goes a bit insane*

Ok I'm calming down. This is a horary chart. Isis Osiris and Eros Psyche midpoint on Venus just show how insanely into the idea I am.

It's times like these I begin to question everything I've ever seen or known, which is probably healthy.

posted August 04, 2016 09:34 AM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:

I know it seems I'm going wild trying to prove something here, but really I'm just noticing facts. I have decided several times that I am fully willing to let the relationship go if it is not in our very highest interest. And that's a high bar to set, but that's how I feel. I'm hoping that by presenting facts and looking objectively at this method, Ican come to useful conclusions. I was totally ready when I cast these,charts to be less than excited. I did so in a spirit of really wanting to know...

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