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frankie2912
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posted August 22, 2016 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We only know each other online. We have a LOT in common and even though we don't talk much, I seem to have a lot of sexual dreams about him even though I rarely think about him.

Do you see a common thread between our charts? Maybe something linking us psy ch ically or spiritually?


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mir
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posted August 23, 2016 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You both are born under exactly opposing Venus/Mars phases. Attraction and completion on a physical/sexual level.
Blue under a waning trine.
Red under a waxing sextile.

Yoko and Lennon are another great example of this.

But I would like to see if the progressed synastry has a hand in it too.

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posted August 23, 2016 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, interjecting here, mir--

If my Venus is opposite mars by 16 degrees (waning opposition) and his Venus is conjunct his Mars by 23 degrees (waning conjunction)... that probably doesn't count, does it?

probably not. Heh.

But but, that's brilliant that you spotted that, knew to look for it, etc. I really want to develop an eye for this kind of thing. Brilliant.

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posted August 23, 2016 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Contacts to the IC have always resulted in dreams, and psychic connections for me- good and bad.

Also I think in this new world of technology people can start looking at contacts to the MC like an AC connection. There's a theory that the MC represents your online presence or personality. I'm in agreement with that theory. In your synastry you have IC/NN and MC/Moon-SN.

I've been trying to think of some kind of game to test the MC theory in 2.0, since we should all be seeing the others' MCs

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posted August 23, 2016 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and Mars/Pluto will do it for the sexual dreams...you don't even have to be sleeping. Are you Pluto?

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posted August 23, 2016 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Hmm, interjecting here, mir--

If my Venus is opposite mars by 16 degrees (waning opposition) and his Venus is conjunct his Mars by 23 degrees (waning conjunction)... that probably doesn't count, does it?

probably not. Heh.

But but, that's brilliant that you spotted that, knew to look for it, etc. I really want to develop an eye for this kind of thing. Brilliant.



Yun that definitely counts~! We can't only look at exactness as it's all about energies although ofcourse it's nice to find it exact as in this case and Yolennon's V/M one. The latter also has opposing lunar phases GLOBALLY. Even as Charles/Camilla for example.
I knew your Aries had the opposing lunar phase with that other girl he was crazy about but no idea he had the Venus/Mars opposing phase with YOU. Very interesting as I recall the physical part of your relationship ;D
Yea.. this is pretty new all but I suspect a VERY significant peace of the puzzle, more than we might think.. it feels a bit as having missed the clue the whole time from which we then can reduce our focus.. on the smaller things like... eyy yeaa pluto is on your mars too etc.

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posted August 23, 2016 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Need to understand it better. We have the opposing phase although mine is waning and his is also waning? As they are conjunction and opposition?

Any chance you can start a thread on this? Pretty please?

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posted August 23, 2016 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Oh and Mars/Pluto will do it for the sexual dreams...you don't even have to be sleeping. Are you Pluto?

Definitely. Mars Pluto is extremely sexy... and I agree the IC contact would make it happen at night, when alone, in the deep recesses of the mind...

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posted August 23, 2016 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because they're conjunct and opposite indeed.

Yea maybe...

I will.

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posted August 23, 2016 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Oh and Mars/Pluto will do it for the sexual dreams...you don't even have to be sleeping. Are you Pluto?

I am the inside chart (blue)

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posted August 23, 2016 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion, it's that Venus-North Node Double whammy

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posted August 23, 2016 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
In my opinion, it's that Venus-North Node Double whammy

That is definitely somethin'!

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posted August 23, 2016 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll look that up!

We also have a Sun-Venus double whammy as well as Mars-ASC dw. Crazy

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posted August 23, 2016 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mir:
You both are born under exactly opposing Venus/Mars phases. Attraction and completion on a physical/sexual level.
Blue under a waning trine.
Red under a waxing sextile.

Yoko and Lennon are another great example of this.

But I would like to see if the progressed synastry has a hand in it too.


MIR,
and YUNG
me and my Aries have the same thing but between our natal Sun-Venus.
His Venus is 46' behind his Sun, my Venus is 46' ahead of my Sun, it's an exact waning and waxing semi-square.
His Sun- Venus is absolutely symmetrical to my Sun- Venus, as my Sun sesquisquare his Sun at 0' and my Venus sesquisquare his Venus at 0', hence the exact DW Sun-Venus opposition. The 4 planets are locked up together in a 0 degree sort of a butterfly on all points.
But, his Venus conj his DSC and my Sun conj my DSC, so our ASC/DSC angles are thrown into that butterfly as well.
AND I have my Nodes across my ASC/DSC, so my Nodes are also conjucnting the butterfly points. So, it's a very tight butterfly picture made of both of our Sun, Venus, Angles and my Nodes.
oh, and his Valentine and my Amor ( on his Sun) as well.
dawmn. Suns- Venuses- Nodes-Angles-Valentine-Amor. All exact.
Think Magi calls it a Fortress ( trapezoid).

If only our Composite wasnt so unstable.....a yo-yo, but contained

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posted August 23, 2016 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can yall start your own thread please?

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yungang_grotto
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posted August 23, 2016 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This isn't personal readings though, it's IA. So topics which get explored and developed in a given thread based on the charts you share are meant to strengthen everybody's understanding of IA. You're within your rights to request that we leave I think, I appreciate that you want to focus on this chart and the thread can and should do so, but understand that this knowledge does pertain to your synastry and the examples being provided of other people's resonance which you also have with this person can help you understand the depth and significance of the same in your own synastry.

All that said, I appreciate you want to return the focus to the chart you've provided and will respect that. I thought we had answered your initial question. Unless you ask more questions it is hard to know what else to say.

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posted August 24, 2016 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wait sorry it's too good... I'll respect your request right after this...

((Psst, Orange..
Aries sun 21
Taurus Venus 27

Scorpio sun 21
Libra Venus 17


.... close enough?

Edit: oh I'm bad at math, it's totally not close enough. ))

*running for cover now*

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posted August 24, 2016 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hahaha...Yung, you are adorable.
I wuv you.
even thou the math doesnt add up, the numbers you listed are same... 1-2-7, so that's something, eh

edit:
oh wait...it does add up!
his Venus is 36' ahead of his Sun, your Venus is 34' behind your Sun

It totally adds up, only 2' off, which so counts!

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posted August 24, 2016 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(!!!!!!!!)

frankie, who is inside and who is outside? Do you feel like sharing the composite/Davison?

Curious who has the Moon Saturn conjunction... Noticing the lovely Jupiter-Asc as well as the double whammy Mars-Asc, and Pluto-Asc to boot... Whoever has that MoonSaturn is likely to feel all this very intensely I think.

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posted August 24, 2016 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^
she is the one inside. Look at that Venus poking from under the black scratch

that Moon-Saturn is unaspected, thou..it would have benefited from a trine or two

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posted August 24, 2016 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
^^^
she is the one inside. Look at that Venus poking from under the black scratch

Ah good detectiving, must be that progressed Scorpio... stuff... (am I remembering right?)

I thought she might be inside.. just from... well... partly.. Pluto(-Asc) wouldn't necessarily be posting about it, just my feeling. Jupiter(-Asc)? Yeah

Also... process of elimination, had my hunch, could've gone either way.. lol...

frankie... I hope you're cool with the little bit of extra here, I understand you don't want folks to lose sight of your original intention for this thread...

The thing about the astrologers who frequent IA... IA people, if you will... is that we really like... people... I think that's a huge part of why we hang out in IA... or that's true for me anyway... We're natural born interactors... can't really help ourselves... (sorry to speak for others here! Just another guess). Relationship oriented people build and tend to relationships, it's just how it goes... and we discuss our own relationships in the threads here just like folks discuss their own charts in the threads in Astro 2.0... even if the focus was going to be on something else... the additional info is a boon to the whole learning thing...

Also, I think, if you want folks to celebrate your synastry with you, it makes sense to celebrate theirs too? You two are indeed similar and connected.... maybe, likely, partly because of this crucial synchronicity and mirroring effect which mir so deftly noticed and pointed out... Orange and I, we're similar and connected with our people too... ( in more ways than one!) that's all. We're just letting you know, because actually it's relevant to you to learn about the significance of this and how it plays out for others... that's what astrology is all about.

You can research aspects on the internet all day, but nothing really compares to talking to somebody who has experienced it... just my two cents.

And I can confirm that the Venus Mars thing is out of this world, in terms of physical attraction and resonance...

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posted August 24, 2016 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
^^^
she is the one inside. Look at that Venus poking from under the black scratch

that Moon-Saturn is unaspected, thou..it would have benefited from a trine or two


Yeah, the underaspected-ness of it makes it so that she'll feel it intensely though... I wonder how the midpoint pictures look, what midpoints fall across that Moon and how the draconic comparison looks.

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posted August 24, 2016 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yung,
is your Venus-Mars aspects a waning and a waxing aspect? You did say a waning and a waning, but was it a typo?
because I think Mir misunderstood your example and she thought you said waning and waxing. It has to be a waning and a waxing in order to count for a resonance. Orr, it has to be exact 0.0 otherwise. Just think of minus and plus balancing each other and arriving at 0.
Does Venus aspects Mars in the Composite? That would tell if they are a waxing and a waning.

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posted August 24, 2016 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Yeah, the underaspected-ness of it makes it so that she'll feel it intensely though... I wonder how the midpoint pictures look, what midpoints fall across that Moon and how the draconic comparison looks.

yes, that would be interesting. They have the waning and the waxing Sun-Venus DW too, so their Composite will have an exact Sun-Venus conjunction.
And looks like her Moon-Saturn is close but not exact to the Composite Sun - Venus( at the sun- sun, venus-venus midpoint).

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posted August 24, 2016 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did ask mir to confirm... I said mine is waning and his is also waning.. because yeah it doesn't seem quite like opposing phases if they both are.. (???)

Well physical attraction can come from many quarters

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