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madelineleo23
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posted August 22, 2016 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is outer.

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LaceyLeigh
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posted August 22, 2016 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm thinking it's the Sun/Mars conjunction in your 8th house, along with your Saturn squaring his Sun/Moon that makes this current situation a bit unforgettable.

But, and I'm sure you've heard this before, give it time, these feelings rarely last forever.

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posted August 23, 2016 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honey, I feel like I know exactly how you feel xo

So it started last december and I completely cut off contact in april. This guy, I would have to say was my first love (though it could just have been major obsession on my part). I was ready to fly to see him (online relationship feels) after 3 months. His mars in scorpio was conjunct mine (0 degree orb) in scorpio, in the 8th house (his venus was also in scorpio, 8th house - though not conjunct mars, but sun/moon midpoint and POF). He had a sagittarius ascendant and gemini moon and let me tell you, these people are hopeless at focusing on just one person.. I hate to say it because it sounds like you really like him, but those signs aren't really the "comeback" signs.. They move on rather quickly (and it's hard for them just to "fall" in the first place).
I was told multiple times that we had a karmic connection and it was something that needed to be done to not be repeated in another life time.. it's very *ouch*
For months I would always come up with these extremely idealistic ways of coming back together and daydreaming about him telling me he wanted a commitment, but it has never happened. He is completely gone and now that I've spent so long getting over him I realize how bad he was for me and how **** that relationship made me feel and I am so much better without him (even when it hurts).

Though it's barely forgettable, you probably would just do best to focus on yourself instead of wasting time & energy on someone who wouldn't actually fight for you. You need to stop waiting for him, waiting for anything to happen between the two of you.. If you haven't said all that you feel needs to be said, that could possibly help get you two together - I would (& I did, but it still didn't work because he just wasn't that interested). If you want to be in a relationship, only spend your time on people who actually deserve your generous leo attention! We both know who's missing out and it's not you!

*I didn't know this when I was with him, but Gemini's and Sagittarius are the hardest sign to get to commit.. I did a lot of research after my encounter with him.. He shook my world basically

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posted August 23, 2016 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed with Lacey on both astrological insights and romantic wisdom!

You guys have very fascinating synastry, I'll give you both that.

Sun/Mars double whammies
Venus/South Node
Mercury/South Node
Neptune/North Node
Pluto/North Node

...You were both even born on full moons!

To me, this is karmic synastry. I can understand why you would feel very shaken after this experience - intuitively I feel it must have been life altering.

I'm sorry it didn't pan out the way you wanted to, sweetie. The best thing you can do is focus on yourself and see what else the universe will gift you. It'll probably be in no time (t.Jupiter will be on your MC in early 2017! I bet that'll be very fun).

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posted August 23, 2016 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see things in the synastry (tight Mars-Sun on your side, IC/NN/Pluto if you have a right birth time for him) that would make this connection seem heavy and important and bring a feeling of longing with it.

But I want to mention something in your natal--8h Leo Sun. I have this placement natally and someone breaking off contact before there's closure on my end---before I feel like I've had the contact with them I needed in order to dig very deep and get very intimate and know all the details of what the relationship/connection is all about----is a guaranteed way to INTENSIFY my feelings for the other person. My best chance if resolving things and happily moving on is when *I* feel ready to separate and I initiate that on my end.

With his Mars right there on your Sun, he's making all your 8h Leo traits especially want to take action---he energizes you to want to dig deep into the connection and transform the connection and get very intimate.

He's so mutable--even with that sensitive Venus and your airy Moon, i'm worried his presence in your life might not be steady enough for a Leo. BUT....

This is the opposite of advice I would usually give, but actually there's some friendship potential and good-communication potential in this synastry, and with his mutable Sun/Moon, breaking off contact and not being in touch might not be as heavy or meaningful as it is for you, a more fixed person. Sometimes Gem/Sadges get distracted and are busy with other things even if you are important to them. They are also changeable, and it is possible to re-spark their interest.

I think it might not be a disaster.....might, in fact, make you feel better.....to re-initiate contact with him. Not as a big heavy We Are Soul Mates thing (there's potential in this synastry, but like I said above, it might not be quite right for a long-haul relationship), but for a lighter, more-mutable reasons....to get to know this person better so that your desire to understand him and understand your connection will be satisfied, and you can make informed decisions about him.

Sometimes more mutable people are there and available when we think they've left for good.

Of course, I don't know your story---if your story involves him hurting or rejecting you, it IS better to just grieve and keep No Contact and move on to something better. But if it's like you're both single, you were hooking up, and things drifted, you might actually feel better if you pursue things and go deeper and become friends. I think airy people can have really fulfilling friendships with people they have romantic feelings and lust for.

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posted August 23, 2016 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to add that I am going through the same with someone, so I understand. Even the daydreaming about ways we could be together.

I am trying to just figure out why I feel like I do and move on.

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posted August 23, 2016 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 23, 2016 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes, Madeline, someone can touch us in a matter of minutes or hours, with the impact lingering for long after they've left.

Who can say why? Sometimes there just ISN'T a reason. It simply IS.

Usually, it's a bizarre, unforgettable combination of energy, soul connexion, and psychological triggers. They remind us of something, or someone, or many somethings and someones. Other times, it's completely inexplicable why they affect us as deeply as they do. They just do.

Yes, astrology can help to decipher the code and obtain some closure. But sometimes, it just simply is ... what it is.

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posted August 23, 2016 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Pluto squares your Moon.
This aspect is very hard to let go off. Very!

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posted August 23, 2016 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm speaking from experiance, relationships with squares to the moon are the worst, no matter how you two felt or still feel, you'll never truely feel emotionally secure with one another.

Your saturn squares his sun and moon, he felt like you smothered him, or that he was too childish, he wasn't good enough.

Your moon squares his mercury means he was critical, unsympathetic and analytical of your feelings, square his pluto means feelings were very intense, fear of loss can be generated, which in turn can give rise to jealousy, control or possessiveness. I think this aspect plays a major role in you being still thinking about hims since it invokes obsession

Your pluto trine his venus is such a beautiful aspect, it suggest a strong bond. Now for it trine his chiron.. chiron is such an underestimated asteroid,it represents his biggest wound (and if he is mature enough how will he use this wound to heal others), joined by pluto which is the planet of transformation and healing, but also obsession and destruction, it can go either way even if they are joined by a trine.

It's not my place to tell you what to do, but consider this, all relations that do not offer you emotional grounding aren't ones to keep for long.

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posted August 25, 2016 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucia, if there is good communication and friendship potential in this synastry do you think I should reach out? I am very tempted to.

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Lucia23
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posted August 26, 2016 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by madelineleo23:
Lucia, if there is good communication and friendship potential in this synastry do you think I should reach out? I am very tempted to.

Yes, I do. HUGE apologies if that turns out to be bad advice or cause you pain.

What degree is your Virgo Venus?

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posted August 26, 2016 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by madelineleo23:
Lucia, if there is good communication and friendship potential in this synastry do you think I should reach out? I am very tempted to.

Yes, I do. HUGE apologies if that turns out to be bad advice or cause you pain.

What degree is your Virgo Venus?

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posted August 26, 2016 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Virgo Venus is at 14 degrees.

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posted August 27, 2016 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If was wondering if your Venus would be directly hit by the 9/1 eclipse at 9 Virgo....it's a little out of orb, but it still might be a time to try to communicate. At least stir up the energy a little.

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posted August 28, 2016 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I texted him today. He asked who it was because his phone broke and he lost his contacts. When I told him who it was he didn't respond. Oh well. I shouldn't have expected anything less. I feel pretty burned. Ouch.

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posted August 28, 2016 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saturn8_Me     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww, madelineleo

It could be, that he's playing games also, just to see "what's up". You know how ppl don't want to text back too quickly, b/c I makes them seem desperate...

... I not saying that's the case. But, whatever that case is, it'll be okay. *hugs*

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posted August 28, 2016 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. I don't even know why he would want to play games. I'm just trying to reach out as a friend, but I guess he doesn't care to be.

I feel ashamed and embarrassed for reaching out and being completely disregarded.

I'm really done for a long time. I have the worst luck when it comes to relationships. I rarely have felt so strongly for someone. I gave my heart to someone who seems repulsed by me. I'm sick of it.

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posted August 28, 2016 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by madelineleo23:
Thank you. I don't even know why he would want to play games. I'm just trying to reach out as a friend, but I guess he doesn't care to be.

I feel ashamed and embarrassed for reaching out and being completely disregarded.

I'm really done for a long time. I have the worst luck when it comes to relationships. I rarely have felt so strongly for someone. I gave my heart to someone who seems repulsed by me. I'm sick of it.


Im so sorry Big hugs to you and you are not alone

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posted August 28, 2016 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it's embarrassing, I feel for you.
Noone of us here wants to be in that place but I suppose we all have been at some point.
The good thing is - you now will move on from him quite quickll

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posted August 29, 2016 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So sorry.

It frustrates me that the whole thing is happening by text message....but I guess that's the era we live in. I feel like text isn't the best medium for 8th house Leos, we don't have all our radiance on hand, we lose a lot of power being disembodied, even those of us who are good with words. When it's all vague and text-y like that, it's hard for me to tell what's really going on.

Mercury will go direct exactly on your Venus 9/21....if you're still looking for clarity, maybe it will come then.

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posted August 30, 2016 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you don't need to feel embarrassed- you were brave and listened to your heart

all said already about the synastry. I guess mercury/south noden played a huge part since mercury is the ruler of your descendant. It must be the feeling like meeting a soulmate or something.

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posted September 01, 2016 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see a lot of attraction aspects.. for both of you. But I see that he is more of your ideal type. He's attracted to you but you aren't quite his ideal (it's more on your side).

The strongest 'I can't move on factors' I see that jump right out at me are that your moon aspects his pluto and that your Venus trines his Neptune. Obsession and Delusion.

On a side note, you clearly like Geminis. Your Mars and Descendent are in Gemini. You might be attracted to Aries like guys as well. His mars is conjunct your sun, so there's that added attraction factor. Maybe go after another Gemini guy? (Sorry if that's too soon!)

How can you give up on something that you haven't tried to work it out? Just because he hasn't called you doesn't mean you don't have to call him. Love isn't a game. What if he's thinking the same that you are? And that's he hurt you haven't tried to contact him? Pride is a tricky thing. If you miss him this much, at least try contact him. Be the bigger person and reach out to him. If he doesn't respond, then there's your answer and you can move on. But at least you'll know and get that closure.

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posted September 04, 2016 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi polkadotstars,

Yes. That sounds accurate. He definitely was my ideal type to a T! I kinda felt I wasn't his ultimate ideal type though. I knew he was attracted to me and liked my style but I felt like I didn't have that 'something else' that he wanted. (Not sure what it was though)

I have heard moon-pluto aspects in synastry are extremely tough to deal with. I do feel it because even though I reached out to him last week, and he didn't respond, I am still thinking about him constantly and hoping he'll come around. (Even though this is not the case realistically)

Indeed I am naturally attracted to Gemini's. I find that they are drawn to me and I am drawn to them. When you say that I might be attracted to Aries-like guys, do you mean people with Aries in their chart? Or just people who embody Aries traits? Also, just curious, what in my chart might mean that I would be attracted to Aries types?

Thanks for your insight.

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posted September 04, 2016 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
How can you give up on something that you haven't tried to work it out? Just because he hasn't called you doesn't mean you don't have to call him. Love isn't a game. What if he's thinking the same that you are? And that's he hurt you haven't tried to contact him? Pride is a tricky thing. If you miss him this much, at least try contact him. Be the bigger person and reach out to him. If he doesn't respond, then there's your answer and you can move on. But at least you'll know and get that closure.

That's very mature, I like your thinking polkadotstars!

:edit: OP, I see you already did reach out..
Don't be disheartened, something better will come along.

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