posted August 24, 2016 12:17 PM            

I knew this all would cause confusement.

Guys, I make a clear distinction between;

A) The "COCHRANE opposing phase"

(^ resulting in a composite conj/opp)

and my own invention (sort of);

B) The astronomically tuned opposing phase.

(^ not resulting in a compo conj/opp - usually)

Now, think about WHY I called Franki's Venus/Mars phases opposing phases? They were;
- WANING trine
- WAXING sextile

^ not resulting in a compo conj nor opp, see?

It WOULD be "Cochrane opposed" - with result compo conj/opp - if they were;
- WANING trine
- WAXING trine

or;

- WANING sextile
- WAXING sextile

or;

- WANING quincunx
- WAXING quincunx

or;

- WANING 170 deg
- WAXING 170 deg

or;

- waxing 2 deg
- waning 2 deg

ETC

so: any (meaningless) same angle that is waxing while the other waning would result in compo conj/opp (and let's call that: the COCHRANE opposing phase, to not confuse this with that).

But what about these combos;

- conj
- opp

- waxing trine
- waning sextile

- waning square
- waxing square

- waxing semi-square
- waning sesquiquadrate

- waning semi-sextile
- waxing quincunx

- waning 163 deg
- waxing 17 deg

- waxing 73
- waning 107

ETC.

^ By lack of a better term I call those "astronomically tuned opposing phases" - might be very invisible yes.

With the "Cochrane opposing phases" it indeed has to be WAXING and WANING. Even a 2 deg past the New Moon (waxing) and a 2 deg before the New Moon (waning) would be called a 'cochrane opp phase' but they're definitely BOTH born under a New Moon. Get it?

posted August 24, 2016 01:02 PM            

Interesting, all that

We didnt talk about the same angle, thou. We were discussing any aspects as long as it was a DW between the same planets and waxing - waning. That's it - any DW aspect and one waxing one waning = aspect in the Composite ( not necessarily a conj/opp)

posted August 24, 2016 02:10 PM            

Mir is/was talking about the likelihood that aspect mirroring (is this the right term?) between like points in two distinct charts will create a likely important although underresearched resonance between two people, even if it does not result in a composite aspect. She is proposing that what we've got, a waning opposition and a waning conjunction, is also significant and probably provides a definite resonance between the two people. I would think, some kind of complementarity, due to similarity.

posted August 24, 2016 04:02 PM            

And this is the thing that results in a composite Sun/Venus conjunction, is opposing Sun Venus phases in the natal charts, correct?

posted August 24, 2016 05:07 PM            

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Mir is/was talking about the likelihood that aspect mirroring (is this the right term?) between like points in two distinct charts will create a likely important although underresearched resonance between two people, even if it does not result in a composite aspect. She is proposing that what we've got, a waning opposition and a waning conjunction, is also significant and probably provides a definite resonance between the two people. I would think, some kind of complementarity, due to similarity.

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Yes indeed. So there are 2 totally different ways of looking at opposing phases; A) & B) (mentioned above).

Venus will never move away far from the Sun, so we can never get "astronomically tuned opposing phases" with this pair, like 1 having a Sun/Venus waxing trine while the other a S/V waning sextile (impossible) so this pair is at the mercy of "cochrane opp phases" like Venus 15 deg before the Sun while the other Venus 15 deg past the Sun = compo conj/opp.

I will come later with some examples.. and it doesn't have to be exact, although for the sake of clearness I will use those.

BTW, it's really interesting that you BOTH have Venus/Mars opposing phases (even the same: opp & conj!)) with partner (next to all the other similarities) ;D

That already proves something!

It's also interesting to look at the phases in the progressions. But we can in fact look at ANY planetary pair Moon/Venus - Sun/Mars etc. But it has to be said: more often than not, they are very HIDDEN. You have to develop an eye for it..

.. I mean; how can you ever spot this;
- Venus 77 deg past Mars (waxing)
- Venus 103 deg before Mars (waning)

posted August 24, 2016 05:52 PM            

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But it has to be said: more often than not, they are very HIDDEN. You have to develop an eye for it..

.. I mean; how can you ever spot this;
- Venus 77 deg past Mars (waxing) - RED
- Venus 103 deg before Mars (waning) - BLUE

???

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Ok wait a second..

I will explain.

I look at a syna wheel now (in thought);

posted August 24, 2016 06:27 PM            

Thanks for saying I'm sensible my cap moon likes that very much

posted August 24, 2016 06:43 PM            

I don't think I've seen a picture of you, Orange, or if I did I didn't pay close enough attention at the time...

posted August 24, 2016 06:46 PM            

OK...

posted August 24, 2016 06:46 PM            

Edit: Oh I see you've said I could leave it! *gonna spend at least 10 minutes wondering whether I should put it back now*

^ unfortunately, quite true
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But more importantly, you are going to look at our charts! Orange, high five!

... But mir, it's not just Orange and I with the creepy synchronicity.. it's Orange, me, Aries, Aries, and Scorpio...

Can you compare.. 5 charts?! You would need... 8 hands!!!!

*feverishly photoshopping myself*

Or wait do you mean our charts with our so's charts? That would make sense too.

posted August 24, 2016 07:38 PM            

butteuh.. great to see y'all there again! I was afraid being the only one (almost) never removing any pic here.

Yesyes.. I need comparison material, so it will be;
- Virgo/Aries
- Scorp/Aries

posted August 24, 2016 07:59 PM            

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I want the people in your life to take such good care of you! I hope it's all going well.

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^ this is almost a sob story yun

posted August 24, 2016 08:14 PM            

It's ALMOST a sob story.

Ok, not take care of you...

It's a challenge of mine, I overextend, trying to make folks know I care about them, and then accidentally infantilize them... delicate balance. Lucky you can handle it