posted September 13, 2016 11:28 AM            

Well since astro.com did not let me do the comparison with composite, I was using the DAvison chart.

What does stand out to you in this comparison?

posted September 13, 2016 11:43 AM            

Wow, so the draco Davison moon is conjunct your suns, draco Venus on the NN (and Mars, depending on your orb.) Draco Juno on the SN? Dr Uranus on your dr Sun.

Pluto conjunct draco Chiron, like a deep-tissue massage that hurts but heals?

Dr sun on your Mars-ASC-Neptune

I like the moon conjunct dr Destiny-Child (as in, Beyonce's group )

Dr Amor in Cap = composite Venus = Davison Karma-ASC, wow.

And no wonder you ask me about it, when it's on my sun!

posted September 13, 2016 12:15 PM            

"Wow, so the draco Davison moon is conjunct your suns,"

Though the Draco Davison Moon is even MORE closely conjunct his Moon (0°13) and conjunct his MC (0°35)

It is also opposite tropical Davison Sun btw (1°13)

"! draco Venus on the NN (and Mars, depending on your orb.)"
Yes. 2 degrees. Draco Mars would be 4°28, which is a tad widish, however Mars is definitely aligned with Venus, so it fits. Also interesting our composite has Mars on the NN.

" Draco Juno on the SN?"
Yes, 1°37. Never even noticed that. lol
And draco Juno on 23 Aries.

" Dr Uranus on your dr Sun."
Yes. pretty closely, too. He has Dr BML there. No we are NOT surprised about that.

posted September 13, 2016 01:29 PM            

Well his Pluto is also opposite my Chiron, but while this is of course generational in our case it is pretty closish, only 1°20 appr. AND it runs along the composite and Davison-nodal axis, with my Chiron falling onto the SN, his Pluto onto the NN.

"Dr sun on your Mars-ASC-Neptune "
Yes, Dr Sun is closest to my Mars (0°22)

"I like the moon conjunct dr Destiny-Child (as in, Beyonce's group )"
Yes, exactly I had to put in there.

"Dr Amor in Cap = composite Venus = Davison Karma-ASC, wow."
Yes, it`s all pretty close, too.

Dr Amor 15°22 Cap
Karma: 14°54 Cap
ASC: 13°49 Cap
composite Venus 16°01 Cap

well there are some other asteroids falling onto that composite venus like Circe, Arthur, Proserpina and Panacaea if I recall it rightly

"And no wonder you ask me about it, when it's on my sun! "
Yes exactly.
And your Sun is on his name in my chart - so who could better illuminate me about him but you?

"What am I missing?"
Not much I think, though I also noticed these:

Dr BML conjunct Juno 1°14

Dr Ceres conjunct Union 0°43
on 9-10 Pisces which of course is interesting, too, considering my Ceres is on 9 Pisces as is my name in his chart.

and probably quite difficult

Dr Saturn opposite Moon 1°02
(along my Vertex axis and Sun/Moon-mp, squared by his n Pluto, and actually squared by the nodal axis as I see)

Interestingly however Saturn and Moon rule the angles in the Davison.

And then in the Draco chart there is an added angle-ruler-pair, Mercury-Jupiter (and Mercury is conjunct Jupiter anyway 2°33)

and the partile aspects (under 1 degree) are:
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Dr Sun sesisquare Moon (and Dr Moon opp. Sun with one degree)

Dr Sun quinkunx Chiron

Dr Moon sesisquare Saturn
(and Dr Saturn opp. Moon with one degree)

Dr Venus square Moon

Dr Mars trine Jupiter

Dr Jupiter square Vertex

Dr Saturn square Node
Dr Saturn sesisquare BML
(oh must he be so stern?)

Dr Uranus sextile Jupiter
Dr Uranus quinkunx Juno

Dr Pluto semisquare Chiron
(Dr Chiron conjunct Pluto)

Dr Chiron quinkunx Venus

Dr BML square Saturn
Dr BML trine DESC

Dr Ceres sextile Mars

Dr Valentine opposite Chiron

Dr Karma sesisquare Uranus

Dr ASC trine NN

Dr IC trine Sun

Well of course I usually just focus on the conjunctions and oppositions, but still was in the mood to look for partile aspects. lol

posted September 13, 2016 10:39 PM            

Interesting stuff...I did read carefully.

Makes me want to try this myself, but last time I tried to duplicate a Davison chart manually, it was a bad failure, left me ripping my hair out wondering what I was doing wrong.

Really I cannot get it to work. I have to change the date and time, to arrive at the same ASC, and I'm not even sure if the house cusps are all the same. Guess I would rather spend my time on something else besides matching house cusps.

But this is a close match:

Dr Pluto conjunct Jupiter-Juno
Dr moon conjunct SN
Dr Venus-Psyche conjunct Mars
Dr Vertex conjunct Venus maybe (extra time sensitive)
Dr Mercury-Neptune on the IC ("What are we doing???")

Dr Saturn-Chiron-BML loaded up on my natal Aqua DSC.

posted September 14, 2016 03:54 AM            

Well the angles are usually off in Davison charts, because of different birthlocations, and/ or timezones. But you can simply save the Davison chart in astro.com as normal chart and play with it then.

And yes, I noticed the ones you mentioned, too.

Draco Moon on the SN shows that this is an old emotional connection (like maybe even past life stuff) and/ or reminding each other of old emotional patterns in this life. Moon-SN in my experience (Paul and me have that tropically, my Moon on his SN) is a hard to break tie, it`s like no matter what happens the emotional connection is ongoing. And here it falls into tropical 5th house. Considering Draco planets are where we are meant to grow or go, this might emphasize the importance of children and/ or romance and creativity.

Dr Venus on Mars sounds just really sexy to me.
Dr Vertex conjunct Venus - extra time sensitive, yes.

Dr Mercury-Neptune on the IC - the maybe not easily acknowledgeable root and core of the relationship needs to develop healthy Mercury-Neptune I think. Unhealthy would be avoiding truths, confusion, miscommunication, dissolving of communication when you really would need to talk about it, but the healthy root could mean being able to really tune into each other`s thoughts/ psyche and come to a nonverbal understanding along with well could be about creativity too.

Dr Saturn-Chiron-BML is of course quite something to swallow, and on your DESC, so you are very receptive to it.

posted September 14, 2016 08:12 AM            

Yeah that's with my husband.

I actually don't have an account at astro.com. I got to the question about whether or not I want high security, clicked the question mark, and it said:

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The high security option allows others to view individual horoscopes and charts generated from your collection of Astro data, but no one will be able to access your profile and the full collection of your Astro data without logging in with your password.

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....."allows others to view individual horoscopes and charts generated from your collection of Astro data".....

Huh? I don't want them to. I know that's paranoid, just the whole principle of it annoys me.

So here I am with my ex-soulmate, as best I could manage without his birth time:

Some facts on that biwheel are...factual.

Such as Pluto conjunct draconic sun.
Neptune conjunct draconic Mars-Saturn.
Sun conjunct Vesta
Venus conjunct Jupiter

Meh, it's water under the bridge....

I had the weirdest dream last night, I don't want to say the whole thing, but his sister came up to hand me something, and I looked behind her and his mother and other sister were in their car, waving to me. I just waved back and walked away. My husband was there and said, "Why didn't you talk to them?" I said, "Too painful."

posted September 14, 2016 09:28 AM            

others can only look at your list of charts in astro.com, if you post the link.

This is why I always save them to my own desktop, upload them again and post them here as images, so noone can get access to my astro.com account through the link to charts I might post here.

"Such as Pluto conjunct draconic sun. "
And Moon as well!!

Very intense, but you know that already.

"Neptune conjunct draconic Mars-Saturn."
Sounds karmic to me. Well Neptune-Saturn is not easy of course, but it could have gone better, maybe, if you had been more experienced when you met.

"Venus conjunct Jupiter"
Well there has to be some fun and joy, otherwise noone would ever get into a relationship in the first place.

Interesting about the dream. I was just starting to write a mail to you, wondering about the last two dreams I`ve had.

Maybe it`s the eclipse looming?
Well it will be on my ENDYMION (342), the sleeping shepherd, so who knows, maybe that is the reason for me and my dreams.

Hmm Mark Holmes names these meanings:

"Astrologically, Endymion seems to indicate creative energy, breaking loose, being in a state of limbo or education, the effort to make dreams come true, being in a comatose or narcoleptic state."

posted September 16, 2016 09:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Faith,

others can only look at your list of charts in astro.com, if you post the link.

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Thank you for explaining. They should hire you because you explain better than them.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Such as Pluto conjunct draconic sun. "
And Moon as well!!
Very intense, but you know that already.

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Wish I knew his birth time. That is the with his noon chart, which actually works pretty well and makes for an impressive composite moon, at the apex of a kite, opposing Pluto rather exactly:

But that gives him a Scorpio ASC, and no way was he Scorpio rising. Well you saw that video clip of him, do you remember? And we both thought Pisces rising, or maybe Sag rising conjunct Neptune.

He dated lots of foreign women and married one, and lives abroad with her. Sag rising also gives him a 9H sun, which seems to fit, as he traveled a lot, studied at least three languages that I know of.

ASC conjunct Neptune moves his moon over a tiny bit, closer to his name asteroid in his chart (less than 2°), so the composite and Davison moon wouldn't be that far off from where I posted them here.

Sorry, I feel like this is a nitpicky and pointless analysis. But I've been meaning to say it for a while...that I think he's Sag rising.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Neptune conjunct draconic Mars-Saturn."
Sounds karmic to me. Well Neptune-Saturn is not easy of course, but it could have gone better, maybe, if you had been more experienced when you met.

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Oh we are DEFINITELY karmic! No doubt about that.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Maybe it`s the eclipse looming?
Well it will be on my ENDYMION (342), the sleeping shepherd, so who knows, maybe that is the reason for me and my dreams.

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Ah, that is very cool. Endymion is transiting opposite transiting Pluto (and my sun) so maybe that's something.

posted September 16, 2016 10:06 AM            

1 Virgo - P`s NN.

I did not even realize Tr Endymion is on my Saturn and pr DESC at the moment. lol

posted September 16, 2016 10:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Oh and this is another Draco-Davison here

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Draco DSC conjunct Mars...

Draco Mars on the ASC, quincunx sun-SN near draco Valentine, but I can't tell how close.

Eros conjunct draco Valentine-IC-Pluto-Vesta, that is incredible!

Oh and you two have Venus-Jupiter, too!

Obviously I like that draco Pisces stellium including the moon. Looks kinda like your nodal return chart, right? And maybe brought out to the real world via squares to tropical Sag stellium? Excitement (Sag) all infused with spiritual and all-accepting undercurrents (Pisces)?

Well just the fact that the NN is square the draco NN on the Aries points looks really significant, especially when the sun is there. The whole thing is anchored, right? Only with a squaring-type energy.

But that may be what makes it feel so real and tangible and alive. It's crying out for resolution and compels interaction.

posted September 16, 2016 10:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well Endymion is male though.

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Musta been the shepherd's robe, I mistook it for a dress.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I did not even realize Tr Endymion is on my Saturn and pr DESC at the moment. lol

and my own Draco ENdymion on 15 Cancer. lol

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posted September 16, 2016 11:02 AM            

So the first song I hear today near to the eclipse is THIS one? I`ll be honest, I did not expect that.

But yes, our composite Nodes are 28°30 Sagittarius, with Sun 1°47 Cap and Saturn 1°13 Cancer.

Of course that means that every square in our composite will become a conjunction/ opposition draconically.

BTW we first "met" in the physical (well not really met, but were in physical proximity) with Tr Pluto on 1°09 Cap.
(I have a thing for Tr Pluto on composite Sun it seems, as this happened with P as well as with A as well)